Serious thread about rape:
Cold someone explain the mechanics of rape? Surely a man can only penetrate a vagina if it is lubricated, and this can only occur naturally if the woman is aroused. And if the woman is aroused, wouldn't this mean she wants sex, therefore nullifying the action as rape by definition...
The vagina isn't even penetrable unless she's turned on, It's too shallow and naturally expands to accommodate a penis.
Now you know the secret of rape. Women want it.
Note: for ease of discussion, rape will be defined as non-consensual vaginal penetration by a penis.
How is this not a God-tier Red-Pill? No one on /pol brings it up.
It doesn't matter how much you enjoy something, one it has a fiat price on it the enjoyment is lost amongst trying to get paid.
realistic women trade their vaginas for gold. unrealistic women trade them for everything less, just in the hope that there is a payoff. the least realistic women have sex for fun, but not with you. only with violent men from nightclubs.
Pftt, haha. Brutal.
How old are you?
because it's still soft tissue.
can you penetrate your mouth when your lips are pursed tight?
yes, but it's uncomfortable... that's what rape is like
survival of the fittest!
Rape is a structure of modern society most other animals rape their partners and the sexual organs are built to respond to it. Humans have a larger brain and are self aware and as such being forced into a life changing scenario without mental consent can lead to trauma.
Sometimes the body wants something while the brain does not. Consent is determined by the brain. According to your standards, if a woman is willing to have sex but her vag is not lubracating enough so artificial lube has to be applied, that means that that's rape.
Because even Sup Forums white knights for cunts. No one is willing to throw women under the bus except MGTOW. Look at how MGTOW are treated here and you will understand why.
Or imagine having to take a really big shit except in reverse.
Over and over again.
Serious thread about gay anal rape:
Cold someone explain the mechanics of gay anal rape? Surely a man can only penetrate another man's anus if it is lubricated, and this can only occur naturally if the man is aroused. And if the man is aroused, wouldn't this mean he wants sex, therefore nullifying the action as gay anal rape by definition...
Fucking leaf, that would be CONSENSUAL , even if there were failure to lubricate naturally. My definition of rape included the condition that the sex is non-consensual, so consensual sex is never rape, you retarded leaf.
Women unwillingly get wet during rape, it's not a consient decision. They even often have orgasms, accordig to what i read. Just like you can still get hard even when not wanting to.
only white men can rape, as rape = sexual assault + power + privilege. PoC men have no power in society and therefore are physically incapable of raping anyone.
News flash leaf, an anus and a vagina ARE DIFFERENT. Quit making false comparisons. A vagina is a strong muscle.
I've had instances where I'm fucking a girlfriend (consensually, you faggot) and I physically couldn't penetrate my girl's pussy because she wasn't wet enough. It actually hurt my dick to try. So how is rape possible without naturally aroused lubrication, or artificial application of lubrication, you massive faggot?
all PiV sex is rape, as women are oppressed gender in society and therefore have no agency which means they are incapable of consenting to anything.
I've never gotten hard without willing it, wtf is this shit.
This is why MGTOW is retarded. Let's say someone is border line MGTOW, divorced and was taken to the cleaners by their ex. They still have a mother, they may have a sister, they may have a daughter, and the definitely have an asshole. Rape is degenerate nigger tier behavior and shouldn't be tolerated. I'm not talking about consensual drunken sex, or regrettable feminist screeching sex. I'm talking about grabbing a girl in the dark and banging her head into a wall until she's unconscious. Then forcing her into an arm bar and ripping her pants and forcing your dick into her half conscious body.
>you massive faggot
>I physically couldn't penetrate my girl's pussy because she wasn't wet enough
Holy kek this is too good
You serious? Not even as a hormone pumped adolescent?
>implying you've never had morning wood
>www.firstsignsoflowT.com
Lol, you have no actual rebuttal, sad!
Fuck, your retarded comments are seriously legitimizing the fact that rape really is a social construct.
popsci.com
Here, shitty source but i cant bother to look on pubmed or something
There's a massive difference between morning wood, and having a black man someone miraculously force you to have a boner by pinning you against the ground.
One of the hardest pills for people to take is that their mother IS a woman. We have a natural love for our mothers because they take care of us when we're younger, but when you understand the mechanics of the female mind it becomes clear.
Your argument doesn't counter the core idea that women are ultimately selfish and don't like men. Their male children are treated worse than their female children. They will throw you to your death if it allows them to escape and have more kids. This is the ultimate red pill on women. Even your own mother never loved you unconditionally, she always, without exception, wanted something back in return. This is hard to swallow for many men because like you they want to love their female family members.
ugly chick giving you blowjob would still get you hard, probably
Just gonna post here that I've had the same though, and when my gf smokes weed she can never get wet enough for it to not be too sandpapery. If I'm drunk I'll still do it, but I've woken up before with a really fucking sore dick.
You guys using excuses from the animal kingdom for rape being morally justified are disgraceful. I am losing hope in this board and I wonder how many would be suitable to even be part of the white race.
>spit on dick
>problem solved
Fuckin' virgin.
Sounds like establishment bullshit propaganda tbqh, famalam.
Like I said earlier, I can never be aroused by something against my will.
that is assult and battery shitlord
sciencedirect.com
here you go, there's a paywall but the abstract says it all. happy?
so does your "girlfriend" have the hots for her gynecologist?
because they can manage to stretch a woman's vagina further than any dick can.
and a typical papsmear goes from waiting room filling out paperwork to speculum in within five minutes time.
you only get to see the actual doctor once you're stripped and on the table.
maybe she can get wet within the minute the doctor walks in and inserts.
Yeah, some girls have no problem, some are more inconsistent... Who knows..
But anyway, I have never been sexually aroused without my control, so I feel that if a woman is wet, she wants to have sex, and it's only possible to have sex if the woman is wet. Therefore, sex is always consensual, as non-lubricated sex is impossible.
You've probably never seen a cunt in real life, let alone fucked a poorly lubricated one, otherwise you'd know it's impossible to forcefully penetrate a vagina.
Get absolutely blown the fuck out, faggot.
>it's impossible to forcefully penetrate a vagina.
Wanna know how I know you're a weak-willed faggot?
Complicated.
There's a purely physical component to arousal, so your body just preps itself for what's to come. Yet psychologically your very notion of Autonomy and Identity fracture because what was once undoubtedly called your own to command (Your own body) is a) working against you because you don't want this experience but you get aroused and b) someone elses will has greater control than you do, at the deepest level possible (Our sexual experiences) which happens to be the very base arousing factor for woman - surrender.
So you now don't exsist.
And you stand apart from your greatest partner in exsistance - your body and what it experiences.
>virgin laughing at a nonvirgin
Ok
If I rub you with a cactus over your dick long enough it'll get hard. Surely this means you love being stung in the balls by a cactus.
Retard men...
Your mom put conditions on her love for you the same way you put conditions on your love for her. It's a fact in humans and the animal kingdom that women are the fierce defenders of their kids, they will put their life on the line. Men are the ones that tend to stand back hoping their kid will fight for themselves.
You don't have to redpill me on women. I've been an active pussy chaser my entire life and I've had to mainly rely on my personality. Staying in the trenches, communicating with women, playing the game, has taught me a lot about human nature and the strengths, weaknesses, and motivations of most woman. You don't gain the knowledge I have from fapping, staring at an infographic, then deciding to save up for a sex doll. These guys that give up on women will find out quickly it's not women that cause gen to give up, it's their own personality and they will be giving up for the rest of their lives. My advice is to break the cycle before it begins.
show us yer tits, whore
Except it won't get hard, because it's unenjoyable and non-consensual, which was my original fucking point, that you can only be sexually aroused if you want to have sex, you can't be aroused against your will, although others in this thread have stated otherwise, I'm just not seeing how it's possible...
Even with lubrication I can't have sex with my girlfriend if she doesn't want it, vaginas are strong as fuck
If triggly puff sucked your dick long enough it would get hard even if you're shit faced, trust me. :(
You still didn't comment on this: sciencedirect.com
Scientific paper, confirming my argument. I lost my access when i graduated, but abstract says it all
Like, if a fat naked ugly chick starts dancing around me, trying to jack me off and suck my dick, I'm just not going to get a boner no matter how hard she tries, because to me, she is physically repulsive. I repeat, I cannot be aroused by her against my own will.
So with a woman, can they be aroused against their will? Can they lubricate without wanting sex? This fucking baffles me if it's a possibility...
I'm a guy idiot
And since you're both guys got can all stay that it's possible to get a boner WHILE BEING UNAROUSED suckers. Remember the boner atathclass. Remember penis inspection day. Remember just sitting on the coach and popping a boner while you saw the news. Quit fucking lying to yourself. You can get a boner against your will and a vagina can get wet against it's will.
Women are practically the same as men
>if a fat chick sucked my dick it wouldn't get hard because muh will!
You have obviously never had a fat chick suck your dick. Feels good man.
>I'm a pussy begger
So you can't understand why some men don't think pussy is worth the effort to chase
I really want to read it actually, but I'm a poor fuck, so it will probably have to wait. I can't concede an argument based on the abstract of a paper I haven't even read yet.
...and as a side note, I'm wary of the objectivity of scientific studies of this nature, as you would have to be hopelessly naive to think they are ideologically unbiased given the current state of Western academia.
did your parents stay together?
Most universities have an access bought for their students, isn't there anyone willing to download and post it?
Sure, academics have their own agendas, but it's consistent with the knowledge i already have form different science fields
Made me Kek. Idk man, I'm picky about women, I think watching porn gave me unrealistically high standards.
Anyway, to address another poster's point, wouldn't you say there's a big difference between morning wood and having a proper sexually induced boner. Like, are you going to maintain that morning wood when a rapist is chasing you and pinning you to the ground? No, of course not, and if you did, it would be purely mechanical and dissipate shortly after. You couldn't.maintain it though the rape.
Fuck yeah I can! If I had a bitch flash me any kind of snooty bitchy looks I would treat her like shit. Half the time that actually worked to turn them on. Then I would either ditch them or get their number but go home with their friend just to piss them off.
Yes, most women are fucking cunts but what I realized 90% of the time it was the situation or circumstances of our meeting that caused them to be a bitch. Try meeting a girl at a gym or through other friends or at work or something other than a bar.
But that's the thing! Drunk or not, you wanted that far slut to suck you off then and there. It was consensual, and the boner showed it.
Yes they're still together. We're catholic, we don't get divorced no matter how much we hate each other.
Nah you can rape women whenever you like. If they're dry just pull their labia apart and spit, then kind of work your fingers in and work the spit in there. Slowly inch your cock in there she'll start getting wet whether she wants it or not. You can even threaten her verbally into getting herself wet if you're feeling lazy, like if you can't spit in her cunt because you're eating burritos or something
Sure but you're thinking of arousal like a man. Women are totally fucking different.
You know disturblingly much about the topic, Australia
Finally, it took a fucking Aussie to present a somewhat plausible scenario. Take note from your down under cousins, leafs.
maybe that's why your opinion on your mother is different then. Single mothers will use you as a surrogate for the missing father, and will resent you every time you remind them of their ex. They aren't fierce defenders, they're fierce coddlers afraid of being left alone.
yeah, someone doesn't have a lot experience with women.
Interesting, got proofs breh, and don't provide Salem witch trial personal confessions, I need fucking irrefutable proof.
Also, I'm not a big fan of the big girls but there's one thing for sure, they treat your cock like it's the last cock they may see for another 6 months. Probably because it will be the last cock they see for 6 months but it makes them very appreciative and willing to do just about whatever.
Remember, fat girls are like motor scooters, both are fun to ride until your friends catch you doing it.
No the sex organs work whether you are for it or against it, if some old ugly bitch tied me up and started sucking my dick even though I oppose it or don't like it my body will work on its own against my will, I Wil still get hard and feel the pleasure, same goes for women if you start rubbing their area no shot they will be aroused.
It's just that, if a woman can't get wet when she wants sex, how the fuck can she get when when she doesn't want sex?
>what is discharge
Fuck man, I'm seriously not like this at all. I have to want the pussy to get a boner, irregardless of mechanical stimulation.
I don't even know what point you're trying to make.
The majority of women fantasize about rape, so when the time comes for their raping it is literally a dream come true. Consent is a non-issue. If the penis goes in, they want it. The high orgasm rate proves it.
Go out there and make dreams come true.
DUDE THIS IS THE LAST REDPILL.
Even scientists have to rely on qualitative data provided by women, it's all a giant universal conspiracy against mankind by women!!!!!!!!!! (NOT TROLLING, SRS)
You are not a special snowflake, if your dick was rubbed enough it would get hard.
Even Channers are struggling to accept this one, holy balls Batman...
if your penis is cut thats why you can't
the foreskin actually helps a lot
Dude, I swear to Christ and Kek all mighty, this is not the case. Fuck, I have a hard time jerking it to porn these days and I'm actively TRYING to get a boner and bust a nut.
holy hell, you're a fucking idiot
I'm intact, still have my good old foreskin, God bless.
Actually I have a girl a ride home one night that was a fucking beast! I was hitting on her friend, dropped the friend off first, got to fatties house and she goes down on me in my car. I told her no several times. I actually thought about smacking her but for all I knew she was crazy and would've pressed charges. So I figured let her go down on me, technically this was rape but we were both drunk. I thought it wouldn't get hard and she would give up and go away.
It got hard then limp then hard... kind of weird.
I told her I wanted to go inside. When she got out I bailed!
do macho things and you'll have hard time not having a boner
parachute jump or something
Fair enough.
This concept is absolutely foreign to me, and I am not a virgin. But some kid told me he couldn't have sex because his girlfriend has a shallow vagina, so maybe what actually happened was this.
Sounds like a hormonal problem then, that makes no sense if you can barely bust a nut when you are trying to.
respect.
There is a qualifier here.
Women dream of rape by a top tier man. They don't want a low tier man to rape them. This is when you understand that the concept of rape is entirely based on how attractive she finds you
Riiight... So you kind of wanted it. So you had a semi boner, proportional to your arousal. So this is in complete agreement with everything I've posited so far.
Dude, yeah. My life is boring as shit, and I rarely have opportunities for greatness :(
Really??? Do I really need to prove the difference in arousal between a man and a woman? Women don't get wet looking at cock. They can... but try whipping it out when your girlfriend is pissed and see what happens. GF shows tits when you're pissed and it's on.
>Feels bad bro
But I can get a boner when I'm around a real girl I like. I think I've just outgrown porn (I'm 25, been jerking it for ~11 years to pr0nz)
I wonder who could be behind these posts...
>The vagina isn't even penetrable unless she's turned on,
user never heard of KY or vaseline
They don't get wet looking at cock, but they do when they are being raped? Explain. Why would you lubricate when you a) don't want sex and b) are sexually unattracted to the attacker.
its called "self-protect juice"
Yes, but what about when those aren't used? If the woman is naturally wet during sex, she must want it, amirite faggot?
women's vaginas also get lubricated to avoid the injury that would occur with forceful rape. It's an evolutionary response that has nothing to do with arousal except to those trying to justify rape
>tfw you realize the Jews took your rapesleeve at birth
Not a bad point, but why even do that when the vagina is impenetrable without lube. I feel like lube would be reserved only for desired partners as a way to prevent undesirable from forcing their genes upon the woman.