I'll start with a real occult red pill. Most high end globalist are invested in the occult. This is a secondary reason to them pushing socialism and eventually universal basic income.
It allows the actual creators (modern books/tomes/liber or ovcult/ritual item makers) to be funded via the state. To have their needs taken care of so they can continue creating these works, as just like being a priest or artist it's full time work but can't be subsidized less you have a large organization/following to do so. Exactly what they dont want.
Some do have the resources to allocate to fund an occultism full time for their own private use and needs. But most legitimate magicians or shaman are not willing to enter this kind of strict dealing.
Isn't that using a howitzer to kill a mosquito though? One would think that some sort of trust fund of stolen money could be set up to provide for living expenses for instance.
Jace Taylor
Sounds like welfare.
Landon Rogers
Sooooo what kind of occultism are we talking here? It's a pretty broad term.
Adrian Wright
please enjoy your thread's new home on /x/
Dominic Morris
Occultist here. I study the occult. I find the occult interesting.
It doesnt involve summoning succubus, and does involve the discussion of political eleit on the topic.
X isn't the place for this.
Anthony Taylor
if you are a successful occultist why do you need state funds? is the idea to create more successful occultists? because that is best done through schools
serious occultist question here, what do you think about an image of two broken towers created during a grand trine and cross of pluto neptune saturn and the moon?
how useful is that and what for? Is it possible to use someone else's talisman against them?
Hunter Lewis
How important is Hermetism?
Cooper Allen
Mostly death worship from what I see via consumption. Some blatant kaos worship, that I enjoy seeing made manifest via this board with kek.
Juan Smith
>How important is Hermetism? important but not as much as Sabbateanism
Joshua Long
Why?
Ryder Stewart
If I wanted to buy some occult, where would be the best source? I want to avoid bovine growth hormones and BPA if at all possible.
Bentley Smith
Hermes is pseudo christian, his works were being considered to be made part of the christian gospel but for the pope's dislike of passages describing the crafting of gods
it's an important step but you have so much more to read once you're done with Hermes, recently i find the older the better but thats just my experience
Dominic Bell
For an old style it is still used. Like all things people gravitate to specific styles of music. Just with magic and the occult people are drawn to one type over another.
Hermeticism is still prevalent but is not the "bulk" of items being bought by eleits atm. I.e. not in books fetishes graphs personal consultants etc.
Brody Harris
>If I wanted to buy some occult, where would be the best source? you need to find a weird butcher shop in a latino or asian neighborhood that cal sell you shit like snake eyes and live roosters, calf brains and shit like that
stay out of the human blood ritual, it's dumb shit, also I don't give a lot of credit to the solomon stuff, it's coded and you have to have the key to understand how to really use the stuff in there
compare it to other similar books of the era to understand what it's missing
Connor Cook
>Hermeticism is still prevalent but is not the "bulk" of items being bought by eleits atm.
do you consider masonry to be hermetic? they do state that their order is dedicated to the holy saint john the baptist, who was part of the oldest surviving gnostic tradition that still exists the Mandaean tradition.
Nicholas Cox
>legitimate magicians They're called "illusionists".
Magic isn't real, user.
Bentley Gray
you get what you give. Once you start getting.... don't ever stop giving
Gavin Hughes
A successful occultist isn't someone who makes large amounts of money.
Just as great priests don't make large amounts. Salesmen do.
Most legitimate practitioners make original one of a kind items for a very high price, but capitalism can't be broken.
For instance a blacksmith I know that makes ONLY occult cutlery (knives daggers swords etc) has a two year waiting list. And all his items cost well over 1k each. But this still doesn't provide him with full income has under the poverty line.
This you'll see artists and creators of these occult items living life up in five star hotels and vacations. While still being on the doll.
Just the same many tomes are limited runs of only 13 or maybe 100 prints. But they can't make an entire years salary on the sell of a hand full of books after paying for them to be hand made and bound. Many are not in the West. USA or eu.
Elijah Sullivan
Fuck off to /x/ faggot
Liam Davis
thats very interesting, I have known many satanists who were very successful but I think their success arrived before their interest in satan
but this situation you describe is understandable, and makes it easier to follow the path of the alchemists who must swear a vow of poverty to find the green lion
Juan Hernandez
Yes and no.
Gnosticism is huge right now. But not in the traditional freemason way.
Chase Rodriguez
>They will pay me to create shit forever Why are they the bad guys again?
Anthony Davis
Hodup hodup, which one of my POL niggas is hitting up the boho grove this year
Aiden Smith
You can't fight occult garbage with more occult garbage.
Reminder that Marxism is actually veiled occultism and satanism.
Here's a good book about the role of the Jews in history, including how they were behind all major occult movements.
>Fr. Amorth: There is no difference between white magic and black magic. When magic works, it is always the work of the demon. Every form of occultism, like this widespread resort to the religions of the East with their esoteric suggestions, are open gateways to the demon. And the devil enters. At once.
>Reminder that Marxism is actually veiled occultism and satanism. idiot
Christian Robinson
Correct you can't fight them with their own means.
why I mentioned it odd kek has been raised on this site.
These people worship death and kaos already. Kek will not bring them low. Only push their own wants of death and dissolution further.
They want their own demise and kaos. They are not hurt by modern kaos worahip.
Charles Lewis
>This you'll see artists and creators of these occult items living life up in five star hotels and vacations. While still being on the doll.
this is not occultism, it is wigger-ism of the gibs dat school.
Juan Carter
>You can't fight occult garbage with more occult garbage.
thats why you have to learn the precise occult sciences that Plato taught
Luke Kelly
>two year waiting list. And all his items cost well over 1k each. But this still doesn't provide him with full income has under the poverty line.
and this is called he doesn't even good at larping
aka nigga u larping it wrong
Caleb Edwards
It is sure. Again capitalism won't be broken. They can't charge a million dollars for a single item needed for a ritual. Their is a very real market.
Hence them pushing ubi as a side benefit. It allows these shaman and craftsmen to work full time on these items while their needs are taken care of. Not by the elite buyers but the common tax payer.
Jordan Edwards
>Correct you can't fight them with their own means.
you easily can, how do you think we got Trump elected?
the Platonic sciences there is always more you can learn, you can always be more precise to the nature of the old gods, that is why is it very difficult to use their power and experience no negative effect, you can't keep all the gods happy all the time, eventually you will need to ask one of them for something that is contrary to their nature, and thats when you will be destroyed
like you should never ask Saturn to hide your secrets but of course they do it all the time
Jonathan Walker
That's not true. Trump was elected via the people. You can attribute some of it to kek if you want but that doesn't mean all is working in your best interest or against theirs in the long run.
Again many are blatant kaos worshipers. And though they may have not wanted Trump (some if not most did I'll have you know) doesn't mean you are beating them at their own game.
Leo Sullivan
Do you believe in this shit? Like truly believe is real? Why?
You're fucking stupid. This thread is fucking stupid. You
Jacob Powell
Yes. I've seen many offerings placed in exchange for favors ( think death to an enemy or some other end a human would want. Money power etc.) And they be fulfilled.
Usually in a horrific manner. It's taboo to go into detail. But one I saw first hand was the asking of a death worshiped to remove a political opponent. They didn't specify sadly so death got creative. The person asked removed was burned alive the next day.
Coincidences like this can only happen so many times before you acknowledge more is going on than rich elites larping.
Camden Mitchell
Well OP didn't provide shit so far. Post what you know.
Jace Bell
>Actual occultist here AMA. (No styxhex pleb bs) No, you are styxhex pleb bs actually. Worse so, because he at least makes a bit of tube/patreon bux of it.
>This is a secondary reason to them pushing socialism and eventually universal basic income. >Exactly what they dont want. You literally make no sense.
Oliver Collins
You are literally the tribesman who sacrifices every third baby because you think it makes fruit grow bigger
Isaac Davis
Multi-millenia master plan to implement welfare and once even that's implemented still continue for basic income so that spiritcucks can cuck. Hmmm why does this plan sound ever so slightly retarded?
Juan Rivera
>You are literally the tribesman who sacrifices every third baby because you think it makes fruit grow bigger Can you deny that next year he will have more fruit to consume? Magic proven real.
Logan Ross
>Trump was elected via the people. >You can attribute some of it to kek if you want
there was a positive trine aspect with Mars on election day, that helped as much as anything else
Landon Flores
>You are literally the tribesman who sacrifices every third baby because you think it makes fruit grow bigger
kane and abel, you have to sacrifice one child to the state
dumb shit I agree
Nolan Powell
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Adrian Reyes
>Coincidences like this can only happen so many times before you acknowledge more is going on than rich elites larping.
just look at the number of arrests going up on the full moon, you cannot deny statistics, there is something to these sciences
Ian Phillips
It's not the main plan I've said over and over it's a secondary benefit.
I never claimed the goal of elitist occultism is entirely just to introduce ubi.
Ubi is a side benefit so they themselves don't ha e to subsidize the shaman and craftsmen. Again only private cosultants make a full time well off living as occultiats. But very few wil enter this kind of contract.
Michael Rivera
I don't understand what you're saying. The government is pushing for UBI so that occultists can have more time making grimoires and such?
Julian Campbell
how is he an idiot lol he is completely correct.
Brody Williams
I keep getting 77, or every thread I open has it at the bottom. Give me some numerology, it's becoming disturbing. Yes I know you'll say it's confirmation bias but I'm talking a lot here over about a year.
Alexander Williams
>The government is pushing for UBI so that occultists can have more time making grimoires and such?
waste of time, we already have the bible why do we need another grimoire
but we should abandon this concept of UBI, instead replace it with a public dividend similar to Alaska
the people should get money from the use of the commons by corporations
Hudson Fisher
>It allows these shaman and craftsmen to work full time on these items while their needs are taken care of. Not by the elite buyers but the common tax payer.
Go fund your Dungeons and Dragons satanic cult worshipping hobby yourself.
Jonathan Anderson
or fucking 88, and here we go again
Aaron Mitchell
have you let Belial possess you? If you haven't your a noob
Juan Perry
No im saying the only people that benefit from universal basic income are creators.
Of any sort. It just so happens the elite like occult creators. Ubi doesn't help the factory worker that has never had a creative idea in his life.
This it's not the sole reason. It's a side benefit. It's how occultism entangle with policy goals in the current time.
Dominic Diaz
did you fucks kill patrice o'neal because he was everything you feared? (Black & fat - your ideal spokesperson - except he was spilling redpills)
saul alinsky said "ridicule is man's most potent weapon". he was the funniest comedian alive at the time and he knew about (((you guys)))
Grayson Mitchell
also, why are you building a literal satanic paradise in Astana Kazakhstan? you aren't fooling me. Astana is almost an exact anagram for Satan.
and redpill me on the aldobrandini, orsini, breakspear and somaglia families. if you can't do that, then you're a full of shit larper. I'd be hard pressed to think you even know who those people are.
Owen Price
Nope. Incorrect. You're just lumping things together that you don't like.
Chase Brooks
...So, is kek real or not? Are most people involved in the occult jews? Are ther deities involved, if yes, any popular ones from ancient mythology? Your take on the Abrahamic God?
Jack Lopez
one last thing: what are the black pope's roles and why did the catholic church appoint a jesuit? do you even know what the jesuit oath is? why is the most powerful man on earth the head of the council of the black pope? (aldobrandini)
i am 90% sure you're a larping faggot, but on the offchance you're legit - which i doubt - I know exactly what you're up to
Kayden Garcia
I can't talk about real families. That kind of thing gets you vanned as I'm sure you know.
Jordan Long
but I can, and I have. I've never been v&. so my conclusion is you're full of shit. larping faggot
Jaxson Watson
>occult sciences that plato taught
Occult "sciences" are degenerative nonsense, and quickly degraded into superstition.
>I replied by reminding Lady Michele that that the most famous convert to Hellenism was Julian the Apostate, who thought he could wash the effect of baptism from his person with the blood of bulls and ended up conniving with the Jews in their attempt to rebuild the Temple. Hellenism was another word for magic and mumbo jumbo. Greek philosophy, even in its pure state, as when it came from the lips of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle was incapable of saving itself from decadence. The only thing that had saved Logos as discovered by Greeks like Plato and Aristotle was Christianity and its fusion with the Hebrew scriptures by thinkers like St. Augustine.
You are driving yourself into a hole. You control nothing.
Brandon Peterson
is there a guy in QLD involved in relation to kek? if so tell me his crimes
Ian Taylor
A true adept of the occult arts would have no desire to serve nor would there be a place for them in a globalist regime. This is Koetting-tier larping.
Sebastian Nelson
I have a question. Is elite forcing God's hand or they're just doing it because of evil???
Gavin Edwards
F
good brother
John Phillips
Got drug through it by stupid occultist mother.
I've seen some shit.
Nope nope nope.
Camden Cooper
Do you have any stories if you feel like it?
Asher Edwards
Depends whom you are referring to by God.
But most are doing it for the sake of evil itself. Not for a grand Machiavellian scheme of x or y.
It's evil for evils sake.
Nicholas Bailey
It would actually just be rp, since its not 'live action'
Brayden Green
both one in the same. christians will still have to go through the trials and tribulations so the evil is necessary for the second coming of christ. as a side note: Catholicism is not christianity
don't forget to sage this disinfo thread. OP doesn't know shit. you ask him pertinent questions and he gives a convoluted irrelevant answer or an excuse
Easton Perry
Looking to build an army of wizards for the upcoming mage war
Experienced magicians contact me
Carter Ortiz
What do you think about Theosophy?
Cameron Bailey
see, this is exactly what I'm talking about. you're so full of shit. they are forced by an unseen hand and are lost because their leaders deceive them at the whim of the unseen hand. evil doesn't exist just for the sake of being evil.
Parker Brown
>Some do have the resources to allocate to fund an occultism full time for their own private use and needs. But most legitimate magicians or shaman are not willing to enter this kind of strict dealing.
Clear you don't know what the occult is, occult just means hidden, nothing fancy faggot.
>occult (adj.) 1530s, "secret, not divulged," from Middle French occulte and directly from Latin occultus "hidden, concealed, secret," past participle of occulere "cover over, conceal," from assimilated form of ob "over" (see ob-) + a verb related to celare "to hide," from PIE root *kel- (2) "to cover, conceal, save." Meaning "not apprehended by the mind, beyond the range of understanding" is from 1540s. The association with the supernatural sciences (magic, alchemy, astrology, etc.) dates from 1630s.
and the reason you keep things hidden is so you can use that secret knowledge to manipulate the masses, or use to dangle it before faggots like OP telling them you have some secret knowledge that will make them extra special, but while you direct them towards your own goals.
i.e the workings of the Money Powers the rule the world from the City of London, is 'occult', they are the real high priests of the age since they've mastered the sciences of human control and governance and manipulate the world from the shadows.
whats more magical than creating massive amounts of wealth from printing paper.
Liam Sullivan
your mother drugged you or dragged you through it.
Isaac Gutierrez
Evil exists for the sake of evil only because creation was made manifest.
Stop replying and move on you've said numerous times now I'm leaping yet here you still are.
Parker Rogers
larping burger
Josiah Long
>Occult "sciences" are degenerative nonsense, and quickly degraded into superstition.
yeah sure, just like your scientific method dreamed up by descartes who had a vision of an angel telling him that nature can be conquered through measurement
