Lets just admit it already, the working class is poor and shit because they are stupid, lazy, and make poor life choices

Lets just admit it already, the working class is poor and shit because they are stupid, lazy, and make poor life choices

trips o' truth

absolutely correct, quadsman

the fact is boogie wants us to pay for his fat but he's a piece of shit and that's this entire country they need to burn and suffer

They're poor so that someone else can be rich. Society teaches plebs destructive values and creates individuals without proper imagination or self-respect for this purpose. The class struggle is articulated in the social structure we all implicitly accept in our daily lives.

For the most part, yes.

Everyone knows this.

If you spent any amount of time with people who work at or near minimum wage that are not students then you know EXACTLY why they are making so little. Zero initiative or work ethic. Their attitude is "Pay me more and I'll work" instead of the other way around.

I'm in college and in my part time job I was promoted to a supervisor role and was supervising people old enough to be my grandparents but they act like children

> Society teaches plebs destructive values and creates individuals without proper imagination or self-respect for this purpose
A lot of people are just of low genetic quality and not capable of much inherently, and that's why they end up poor or not well off. The idea that society creates us 'x' way just isn't really in line with reality.

>They're poor so that someone else can be rich.
explain how this works? Surly more middle class with disposable income would be beneficial to business

To some extent, you're right. The system is set up though to make it easy to fuck up and good decisions are made - unnecessarily difficult.

no one can refute trip 7s

Pretty much, me and my fiance are both college students who work 20 hours a week and manage to support our house, our bills and everything else we need. If you can't manage to survive with 40+ hours a week of work it is because you are a degenerate scumbag who need to learn how to properly manage money.

pay me more and ill work is the correct attitude unless you are a cuck

but if you are working for min wage you are already the ultimate pleb cuck. might as well start doing meth so you can work 3 jobs to get ahead

There are entry level jobs with no experience required that pay more than minimum wage.

>Construction
>Data entry
>Pizza delivery
>Call centers

It's both the genetic and potential disparity in people as well as culture. There is a cultural blueprint for the working class, for the college educated and the wealthy class. The determinations and expectations foisted upon you by others in life do more to set up your personality and perspective than genetic potential at this point. It is a necessary sacrifice for the continuation of the life of the culture.

We've automated almost all their jobs. And replaced what jobs they could do with cheap immigrant slave labor.

So yes. Take away their welfare and they would all die out in one generation.

The working class is poor because there's nothing to work for.

>pay me more and ill work is the correct attitude unless you are a cuck

Why would I give more money for someone stupid and lazy?

2 things - it is not a conscious behavior but rather an implicit filter of economy and culture and the people benefiting don't give a fuck about the middle class because they make money either way.

A large middle class actually benefits itself and the poor the most.

The rich spread their wealth amongst each other which creates more rich in their own bloodlines.

and they voted trump
pete hegeseth from foxnews was doing one of those gay diner interviews with trump supporters this morning and they were all people that worked for like 12 years of their lives in some shit job like hair dressing and are now retired and on socialist programs like medicare
and pete is wearing a shirt that says "capitalist"
what a way to start a friday

True.
>tfw

m-master r-race

>working class voted for Trump
Makes sense to me.

Totally ass backwards logic.

If a company pays minimum wage they might as well hang a sign on the door "retards, deviants, illegals and felons only"

The more you pay/reward your employees the more selective you can be and you can hold them to a higher standard.

If my job is shit and compensation/benefits of the job are shit you can expect shit effort.

If my job pays well and has good benefits you can expect me to bust ass to keep the job.
TLDR: If you are busting your ass and not getting paid for it you are a fucking cuck

Some of us have mental disorders and can't function in society let a lone be successful. I would 100% be on the street/dead if my parents didn't care for me and there was no disability pension.

My parents will leave me a house but I'll forever be reliant on a small pity pension.


How do you think I feel knowing my life is and will never be any different to what it is now and has been for the most of my life?

>working class vs starving artist
>LOL DRUMP blOWN OUT
I don't understand liberals

The working class is poor because the jobs they do are a reflection of the value of their particular set of skills relative to the dominance hierarchies they compete in. To suggest that anyone ought to be making more or less than that value suggests that the value itself is arbitrary and not determined naturally by the need, desirability, and skill barrier of the job itself.

Well most strayans are retarded so...

This.

IT WAS HER TURN.

Disgusting. Just a bunch of niggers, really.

Tell that to the clear disparity in education across the fucking board.

Even the pluckiest and dedicated of white children in public schools in the US get shit education, shit knowledge, amd at BEST have rote memorized a bunch of facts that they have no idea as to why or how it matters.

In private school? Theu get better attention, better quality teachers and textbooks, more hands on work, and are given reasons WHY their learning what they are learning and practical applications for it so they'll be motivated to learn.

This doesnt even touch on all the possible home life situations the kids could be in, the type of parents they have, what they do outside of school, etc.

Its nature AND nurture you dumb fuck.

Goodbye, useful idiot

This.

This is why communism will never work - rich people are literally superior because we got there by hard work and intelligence.

The poor are poor because they choose to be.

Also ignore the typos, phoneposting sucks.

Fuck off cunt.
I know plenty of cashed up bogans who make more money than the fucking desk jockeys who spend half their life riding in and out of the city on trains to their miserable jobs.
Tradies and miners are the kings of labour cunt. You are probably some poofer who spent four years in uni learning how to suck dick from a Jew.
Have fun spending the rest of your life paying off a HECS debt to learn shit any fuckwit could teach themself in half the time in a public library asshole.

>we
What do you expect to achieve LARPing as rich person? More welfare? You're really stupid and it's actually funny. Like stockholm syndrome.

There are successful people here. Just because you're a pleb doesn't mean everyone else is.

A white collar worker who exercises will live a much healthier, longer, happier and easier lifestyle than a blue collar worker.

Blue collar workers also have a far higher rate of obesity compared to white collar, so that whole meme about blue collar workers all being /fit/ is the biggest load of shit.

Then again what do I know, I'm neither!

You're projecting. Must've hit the nerve. I'd tell you to kiss your boss' ass more but you probaby don't even have a job.

I started out poor and working class with just a HS diploma. Now I make 6 figures, have a wife and 3 kids, a nice house, and a boat. How? Hard work and intelligence.

These people are just stupid and lazy. Period.

No, you're confusing cause and effect, just look at the outcomes of high-IQ children who go to public schools, they end up much better on average than lower-IQ children who go to nicer private schools.
Rich people are also more competent on average than others due to genetic factors and their children are more likely to inherit those same factors and have them than the general public is.
> The determinations and expectations foisted upon you by others in life do more to set up your personality and perspective than genetic potential at this point
That's probably not true and you're just saying things which you probably can't even quantifiably back up. There's a baseline minimum IQ or cognitive ability someone needs to do jobs which pay well, and a lot of people just don't meet that so they end up going into jobs or succumbing to a culture that fits with their ability. I'm from a poor-off family and don't get along with my family or anything because I can't sync with them about anything because our interests, etc. are so far apart and we basically can't meet on anything, I'm a math grad student thinking about category theory meanwhile all of my family is talking about sports or stuff related to their cars.

Caste systems are completely justified.

>i'll do the bare minimum to prove I've worth a raise

Nah, fuck you nigger. You lazy assholes make peanuts your entire life and live on welfare. We should let you retards starve

work from home diddling with Excel all day, make about $200k :)

You sound like a faggot.

>Rich people are also more competent on average than others due to genetic factors and their children are more likely to inherit those same factors and have them than the general public is.

Well,that was ancien régime.I think today is more complicated.

Heavy engine mechanic here. I don't make that much, but in my spare time i invest in stocks and real estate. I'm worth around 7 million NOK. Jelly? I'm only 29 and i don't party and not married.

the points you are arguing was never mentioned by the poster you replied to.

>7 million NOK
is that like 14 dollars of real money?

You're forgetting Communism actually exploits rational self-interest to steer people toward poor life choices.

In Communism, workers pretend to work and the state pretends to pay them.

>Rich people are also more competent on average than others due to genetic factors and their children are more likely to inherit those same factors and have them than the general public is.

Why do the majority of wealthy families lose there money within 3 generations?

inheritance = easy come, easy go
i'd like to see the statistics on this though considering there are so many old money empires in the US like the johnson and johnson heirs, dow family, etc

Pizza delivery is kind of gray area. You'll make a decent wage after tips, but a lot of it ends up going back into your delivery car. Struts and stuff wear out quick when you're driving 8-10 hours a day all day.

The working class isn't poor here.

Oh fuck off and die already you fat sacks of shit.

The system is rigged so that those who can make a profit and (((know))) someone can always come out on top, and get the higher paying jobs than someone who isn't in the know.

This is painfully fucking obvious, and ya'll are a bunch of goddamn circlejerking cunts who got life handed to them on a silver platter.

Sage

>Pizza delivery
>decent wage
your standards intrigue me

Compared to other entry level shitjobs I mean.

you forgot to add being born ugly

t. stupid, lazy, and making poor life choices

Cry more, faggot.

Give it 5 years, sven

most of the old money empires are ruin by people not part of the family 80% of all families lose there wealth within 3 generations go google its an interesting read. Which proves the point that not all rich people are more competent then that of normal people

Lets just admit it already, the rich class is rich and shit because they are stupid, lazy, and make poor life choices, but have a buffer of wealth that makes all of that irrelevant while giving them an undeserved sense of superiority.

there's no state in true communism

Privileged manchilds with a silverspoon inside their arse thread

You have so much to learn in life kidos

>They're poor so that someone else can be rich.

Rich people do not become rich from other people being poor. How does this even make sense to you?

If the poor are poor, they don't have any money to take. People who have $200 in their bank account are not magically funding the lifestyles of people who have millions.

>126171777

Buht Muh working class

getting thrown out at 18 makes you t-t tough right ?

Im not rich, but i got an Audi a8 2015 model, cabin close to Hemsedal (ski resort) and a 4 million worth house. J

> the working class is poor and shit because they are stupid, lazy, and make poor life choices

Nope. The working class is poor because it has to be poor. If there weren't poor people money would lose its worth and the 1% wouldn't be able to live in luxury.

Although I do admit it is a necessary evil. Better to live a life believing there's a chance of something greater than everyone living on the same shit standards and knowing it'll be like this till the day you die... Basically communism.

fucking this

I've seen people with PHD's homeless, and I've seen complete retards go to Ivy League schools and make millions.

It's about who you know, and how much you start out with. Anything else is spoiled rotten brat lies. Yes work hard you can make a living. But if you don't have a business network you're going to be working at McDonalds.

>you will never be a working class Englishman who gets to wear a fancy hat because you learned a trade.

>Stupid, lazy, make poor life choices
To some degree. They're poor and shit because they are "good people" and unlucky. Anyone who moves up in the ladder is either ruthless enough to butt others out of the way for personal advancement (especially avoiding peers or those above them trying to keep them down there), or happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Anybody who hasn't moved up the ladder after some time is content with just enough to get by or someone who "works hard" and lets others walk all over them.

Working class... poor

Stop buying into leftist conspiracies. Working people are not poor. In the west, anyone with a full time job can afford a life style that cannot be described as "poor"

> I have a home
> Air conditioning
> a stocked refrigerator
> a television
> a car
>Oh no I am poor..
i don't think you know what that means.

wrong, I have an ink shop and it's always the poorest that are completely incapaable of making rational informed choice of printer and then are unwilling to read their manual or even at times they can't be bothered to read the instrucions I make so they can run the cartridge perfectly, I'm not rich but I'm able to research and add up, anyone can do that the internet is free and has vast amaounts of information such as price per ml or cost per page and buy a printer accordingly but nope they buy whatever deal is in the (((offers))) section in walmart or safeway (instead of you know going to your printer shop and asking them running costs).
The stupid are poor because they are stupid and we all know you can't polish a turd.
Also why can't boogie eat properly and pay for his own health ?

Buht Buht

...

Nah I just cba to work but that's ok because you're paying me to sit at home all day.

youre retarded, dude. when you get out of highschool and your mommy and daddy arent taking care of you then you wil figure out how life works.

i don't know what this means in terms of real world value
i can go to alaska and buy a zipcode for like 12 bucks but that doesn't make me rich
i will say that you have an admirable profession and good mechanics do well and the US should put more effort into it's trades

t. engineer that used to work on military vehicles utilizing CAT C7 through C13 engines

$350 in cash weekly ain't bad if you're a dumb 17- 19 year old.

If your parents had a decent job and invested a thousand a year in an index fund you'd be a millionaire. If you did the same your son or daughter would be a multimillionaire. And so forth. Money is made primarily through time. You see the people who become rich in a life time through tinted glasses because of survival bias but the reality is that most rich families were created over a few generations at least.

Western countries are too prosperous for oligarchs and monarchs to control. K-12 public school was devised to pen in the bottom 95% using Darwin's principals as justification. It dumbs people down, reduces their breeding, and teaches them to police themselves through abusive culture. The world would be a much brighter whiter place if the Prussian meat puppet lifestyle hadn't been forced down the world's throat. The working class are a fabricated zombie class. They have been dumbed down to be easier to manage by the ruling class. I'm talking about capable white people here. Low IQs are just shit anyways.

Modern race mixing is a byproduct of all the white niggers the school systems praise and pump out. Race mixed

I think that this thread is a clear example of stupid retarded middle, middle-high and high class manchilds that think that they are the shit because they are so smart.
In reality they are the most retarded people!
There are a lot of high class humble smart and with their foots in the ground people but seems like the retarda in thesse hread are the exception.

Well firstly there are two types of wealth.
1. The type of wealth generated by large incomes, like doctors, pharmaceutical researchers, high-end managers, most people who own small but successful businesses, etc. These people are wealthy in the sense of having a lot of money, but they don't have so much that they can put it all into the hands of indirect asset management and have it replicate itself in the form of nearly-guaranteed capital returns consistently.
2. People with so much wealth in the form of built up capital that they can make more money off of indirect capital management and delegating their capital to others that it outperforms mean economic growth and they can make more money passively than pretty much anybody hoping to do so through work in any non-capital sector.
People from group 1, their kids don't have much wealth to go through and due to something like regression to the mean aren't going to be as competent at managing money as their parents, even if they're more competent at it than the general public. The second type very rarely loses their wealth. Even if Warren Buffet's kids aren't as capable as him, and they definitely aren't just due to how fantastically unlikely that is, their money is already managed so as to give safe consistent returns.

you can make that in a 4 hour shift carrying sandwiches and sodas across 15 feet of restaurant floor as a sandwich carrier in a sit down restaurant which is ridiculous

>because they are stupid, lazy, and make poor life choices
This is true, just look at the way they spend their time and money.

The reason why they're so stupid probably has to do with the shit-tier parenting most of them got, not to mention the brain death caused by mind numbing public education. I don't have much faith in even a minority of the working class "growing up", the most we can do is prevent this from getting worse by reforming the educational system and starting to talk more about children's rights and well-being.

this.
there becomes a tipping point of having money that just possessing that amount of money will make you millions upon millions per year with absolutely zero work

Somewhat true. 100% true if you're talking about the "dependency-class".

Or religion. A lot of poor people are also really religious and that "hinders" their ability to strive for greatness. Take for example Islam, Islam carries a great burden on women to work and be "girl bosses" or even go to school. Most women are encouraged to marry young and have more than 4 kids. This causes families to stay in lower societal classes and they can barely ever recover. Religion really hurts families.

What was factually incorrect about this statement?

Not really, I grew up in a extremely poor, Muslim family. My parents are so dumb because of their religion, and they disallowed me to go to school. I ran away and got an Ivy League education.

poor is a relative, not absolute term

Mostly true, but there are blue collar jobs that pay quite well (plumber, electrician, pipe layer, etc.). Also, some people just like working with their hands and choose blue collar jobs even through they can easily become a desk jockey. There is value in being able to physically see your progress when working.