Net Neutrality

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The FCC has just started the process to destroying Net Neutrality.

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So internet before Obama was pres?

Sounds good.

This should be a very interested experiment indeed.

Only thing to do is ebb and flow with the tide. Ride the wave and adapt. See where it takes you.

>ISPs allowed to mine their customers for advertising data
>Sounds good.

Ohhh noooo you'll get ads based off things you like
It's 2017, jesus, get some adblock faggot

You don't understand that Google and other already do this?

This would increase competition.

>We noticed you are running Ad Block
>Please Disable Ad Block to access the internet.

Have you ever dealt with a cable company? They will nickel and dime you for every little thing, and try to sneak in rate increases, and impose all sorts of Asinine rules.

i dont need porn and Sup Forums kekistan flags ads on my browser nigger

oh no they're going to throttle my access to things like facebook and twitter if I don't pay a fee.

guess I'm not going to use those websites I never used anyways.

if they start charging a fee to avoid throttling on hulu/netflix, then I'll simply go back to pirating everything.

if you think this changes anything, you're wrong.

They can detect torrenting fuckhead.

I, Makise Kurisu, worked for three years to help overturn Net Neutrality in the name of Freedom. Now we reap my bitter harvest, yet it tastes so sweet.

>not buying your anime cds from the ghetto thugs in the 9th ward

There going to censor this website.

Yup. I'm surprised hardly anyone realizes this. The second net neutrality is repealed, expect Sup Forums to become hard af to access.

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Wait I just did some research on this. Net Neutrality really only went into effect in 2015 correct? ISPs didn't do any of the stuff the government is saying they would do before it passed. Someone continue my redpilling please. What do I need to know?

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Netflix Lied, Internet Freedom Died.

Please explain Kristina, how the Net Neutrality legislation encroached on our internet freedom and was just yet another Orwellian naming of policy.

Observe how Useful Idiots joyfully celebrate the destruction of freedom.

That’s not what net neutrality is. It stops ISP companies from slowing down website that don’t pay them enough or they find “political inconvenient” That includes this website. Without net neutrality Sup Forums will be gone.

I hate freedom. Anime is gay.
Hail Hitler and the American Nazi Party.

What even is the internet

By saying that the government had the right to regulate the internet under Title 2, they also have the right to regulate the content. The government said so itself, but that it is simply choosing not to exercise its right to do so at this time. It will only take a single false flag event to lock down the internet as a tool for the distribution of information that is not pre-approved by the ministry of truth. The Democrats have already proposed this. Look it up, its spooky.

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>gubberment takes away more rights
>republicans go wild

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Net Neutrality handed the fucking government the killswitch and regulation.

You're bitching and complaining about something we are going to have forced on us soon.

independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/theresa-may-internet-conservatives-government-a7744176.html

Thank your fucking lucky stars.

Ya, fuck the Republicans and this administration

>being regulated is enjoying your rights
I hope you live forever

Up until three days ago net neutrality was bad. Now you're on the other side?

This is ultra tier shilling. You are all idiots.

I know, right? Fuck things like freedom and shit.

I said the exact opposite you idiot

Freedom for the big oligarchy corps, hurray for this great victory!
I would prefer personal freedom or freedom for the people but fuck me right?

I'm off to eat some chicken tendies... keep up the good fight anons

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(((Steins)));gate is that show r/anime jacks off to, how could you be obsessed with that garbage?

k fuck off lolbartardeon

> internet regulated like a utility = freedom
Not really.

I adopted the pen name to avoid being called a samefag on 8ch /tech/

>not understanding the concept
>missing the whole point
thanks for your worthless post

>they also have the right to regulate content
>i love blowing dicks out my ass feels gr8

title 2 utilities are water gas and electricity
it just stops companies from gouging prices

SOPA, PIPA, CISPA, ACTA, TPP, ITU, CISPA again, TAFTA. We won them all. In 2015 Net Neutrality, for free access to our Internets. The FCC just signaled the death for that hard-won fight.

Fuck off, you shilling for your team doesn't add anything.

Without Net Neutrality companies would censor the internet.

Net neutrality was not in effect until 2015.

You fucking moron, they're going to slow the shit down of any connection you're not paying "premium fastlane" for.

How the fuck are you going to pirate when your ISP throttles your internet to SHIT!!

You mean "the internet can control what sites you access and at what speed with zero reasons given to you, the paying customer"

Hope you like having your ass fucked like a good goy by these kike companies.

>regulating companies means ur not free
why the fuck should i give any shits at all about verizons rights

Fuck net nutrality. There are only something like 150 websites on the www anyways. I double support it if it means Sup Forums has to cease.
>Waaaawaaaawaaaah
Thats (You)

Oh no, I guess you'll have to become a normal functioning member of society

theres only one website
the human website

What you morons fail to understand is that tech was nowhere near what they have now as far as data analytics and controls. They've only in the past few years been able or desired to manipulate the traffic to serve their own interests, as they have already proven by slowing netflix traffic a few years back.

The US telecom business model:
>charge consumers for service
>charge service providers an extortion fee
>pay to lobby politicians for favorable policy and enforce monopoly
>get government subsidies and kick backs

Now with NN out of the way, add this revenue stream:
>sell customer data without any requirement to inform customers of this practice
>charge customers tiers and special packages to extract more sheckles while keeping infrastructure investments to a minimum
>choke out startups and innovative companies that may compete with services offered by ISP or parent company.

End result:
>keeps US tech innovation at a minimum
>chokes competition even further
>keeps infrastructure investment at minimum due to no competition, US lags behind rest of developed world

If you honestly think this is a good idea, you are either benefiting as a shareholder of one of the big telecoms, or a fucking moron.

ISP's do not give a shit what a residential customer downloads or how much(don't want liability). ISP's want you to keep paying your bill. Residential internet customers consumes less data overall but end up paying more for the data they use while big companies consume massive amounts of data but pay very little in proportion. Without NN rules the residential users internet isnt gonna be necessarily restricted as far as performance to any website. It only means that any particular website needs to ensure they pay for and have the necessary bandwidth to support their userbase. Any idiot who thinks an ISPs are just gonna slow down a connection to a bunch of different websites and services are just retarded and dont really know what they are talking about. The only-thing that happens is the pricing structure and how the pricing is spread out.

Please slide this thread! If the bill passes, this thread will no longer load :)

Corporations should be allowed to do what they want if they can afford to!

I guess you haven't ever been sued for pirating before 2015 then?
Netflix is one of the main targets of this, do you enjoy HD streaming especially during peak hours? Prepare to be charged extra to be able to do this now.

I can't wait until (((they))) control the internet, and control everything we watch and see.

Corporate government knows what's best.

Gonna need a source for the dem down famblin' man

It's not about being blocked - it's about being slow.
And unnecessarily.
Be gone.

>imagining this is the worst that will happen when you allow a monopoly full control

A responsive government is the only check against corporate power.

Of course corporate power then just tries to corrupt that government. At which point the Imperial Inquisition should swing by an BLAM their CEOs.

Being sued for copyright infringement is no fault of an ISP, its the fault of the user who pirated and got caught online, no ISP tracks users for torrenting, the user was caught connected to a torrent by a bot setup by the copyright holder to catch users downloading copyrighted material, that company then reports it to the ISP. The ISP is not the one sueing, its the copyright holder retard. As far as paying more to acces a website, I the user wouldnt have to pay more to get a better connection to that site, the site/company operating that service would have to pay more proportional the the bandwidth they require. The site/company will have to pay more. The concept of restricting speed on the user end to any website is retarded, the sheer amount of websites out there makes that an impossible feat, it would start and end at the site/server itself.

I get the feeling if it fucks the internet up we'll bitch and moan until congress fixes it.

the user wouldnt have to pay more to get a better connection to that site, the site/company operating that service would have to pay more proportional
What makes you think this? What's going to stop them from requiring you from paying the premium or even worse, not giving you the option and just throttling your speed because you use up to much data?

Because the government is so quick to admit their mistakes.

Where is the benifit for the normal man? I see politicians and big companies benefitting from this, but have a hard time understanding what the merit for the enduser is. If there is none, why are people defending this act then?

Bitch and moan how, goy? You can't access that site, it's too slow! I guess there's no problems if no one is talking online about them, goy.

>reasons to be for net neutrality
Because I don't want to have to treat the internet the same way I do Cable Television.

>reasons to be against net neutrality
Because 70 year olds who don't understand computers told me it was bad.

No, they don't. At any level. The Title II classification is NOT about regulating content, and idiots keep repeating this misinformation. They do not have the authority to do that, and this is about protecting private companies from doing just that. NN is the first amendment of information: government policy protecting information from discrimination.

This

You got it backwards. The FCC and FTC regulate tv and cable and that's why they suck so badly

t. Web engineer

Even if a ISP did start charging premiums or started throttling, other ISP's do exist and would compete and offer services where they dont. The market will fix itself through competition, removing regulation will help remove barriers from new ISPs starting up and allow new companies to form offering better services. Under current rules with data being treated all the same by all ISPs there is no reason to compete because they cant offer priority to any specific kind of data. So aside from transmission rates there is no difference now from one ISP to another in most sense. Allows more layers of competition.

I hope they fucking block non-americans from USwww

>other ISP's do exist
Where do you live where this is the case? Not in my city. 1 company offers 100mb/s the next best is

Muh free markets don't work if there is only one provider in the area like mine and it not going to magically change without net neutrality. If others wanted to compete they'd be here now.

The FCC can and does regulate content under Title 2.

While the FCC is currently forbearing from applying Title II’s most draconian measures, there is no guarantee that future commissioners will continue to honor this self-imposed limitation. At any moment, the agency could conclude that forbearance is no longer appropriate and subject regulated entities to rate regulation, tariffing, and a host of other public utility requirements. In this legal regime, Title II hangs as a sword of Damocles over the broadband industry, generating uncertainty, limiting innovation, and likely reducing capital investment in the sector. This makes it more difficult for broadband providers to build the networks needed to close the digital divide, because of fear that these networks will be subjected to unclear future regulatory mandates. Repealing Title II alleviates that anxiety and should restore capital investment to pre-2015 levels.

Time to stop watching ben shapiro.

>The market will decide meme

Yeah, that works just fine for say, your burgers.
It doesn't work here because there exist a gery limited number of ISP providers. Its basically a monopoly. No new isps will spring up to offer the Sup Forums pack at less than 50 dollars extra because its jot pile but oding a fucking burger stand. It cost HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS to lay down the telephone poles and wire and engineer it all and it takes YEARS or red tape. Google tried it and gave up after being bullied into submission by the monopoly.

Well you just said it yourself, you have 2 ISPs, both of which have no incentive to compete under the current rules. No point in competing when no other ISP while start up because the cost of starting up outweighs any benefit to undercut current competition. If you simply allow companies more ways to compete you will open more doors.

>They've only in the past few years been able or desired to manipulate the traffic to serve their own interests,
They don't have the capabilities to do that at the moment, and that technology would b hard forthem to implement because their systems were not designed to do that.

> as they have already proven by slowing netflix traffic a few years back.
Wrong. What happened was netlix refused to pay industry standard 'paid peering' fees for a connection to an internet backbone. Google, facebook, Microsoft, akamai, etc all pay these fees. Instead, netflix created this 'net neutrality' argument and all the bozos bought into it.

Why do you think the only companies that want net neutrality are huge internet companies that use tons of bandwidth? They don't want to have to pay peering fees.

Anyway, netflix worked it out with the backbones on their own, no stupid laws were needed.

Has literally nothing to do with small websites as sone claim, as these are hosted with bigger content distributors that already have peering agreements in place.

They still won't compete there is only 1 company that has the infrastructure for broadband. DSL would be the alternative. Ending Net Neutrality doesn't create more was to compete.

CHECK EM

They'll have no incentives without it either especially when it'll positively impact their bottom line. Again there is only 1 isp for large swathes of the country. Might as well just bend over and say fuck me scholomo shekelstein, gonna happen either way.

You're so delusional. Nobody wanted or asked for this. The people lobbying for this is the FCC and the big 3 ISP providers.

No ones going to compete like you see in in your capitalists fantasy world. If net neutrality ends, see where you are in 10 years. Will YOU, the consumer be better off? No. Absolutely not. You wont be . The current low cost, flat rates unlimited bandwidth no cap limit no premiums IS as good as it gets.

>The market will sort itself out

Newsflash. Nobody is complaining with their current service. It's not as though there are protests across america for this bullshit. The only people pushing for this is the ISP's themselves so thst they can fuck the customer.

How can you as a customer be in support of this? It doesn't benefit you in the slightest. This is a move for these large corporations to make more profit by charging MORE to customers who use things like ketflix while charging the SAME as now for users who use little to no bandwidth. Or did you honestly think you were gonna get a discount by these fucks because you use bandwidth sparingly? WRONG. You'll get charged what you get charged now while others get charged triple and in your stupid little peanut brain you will consider this a win because at least you arent being charged triple.

You support this. Either you're a Comcast shill or a literal retard. Or maybe you think in principle its onpy fair that in a free market that the corporations who hold a monopoly get to increase their BILLIONS in profit margins by boxing off parts of the internet and seeling it at higher prices while controlling more of what you are allowed to use. Maybe you feel that as a capitalist loving american, you MUST support these practices even if its your pockets thats pillaged.

Why the fuck haven't you been b& yet?