Thought experiment

I'm a bit confused as to why something like this hasn't happened yet.

Why don't nationalists:

>buy a large plot of land in Montana or something
>develop the land into a little community with housing, a school, infrastructure
>keep all of it privately owned. (Privately owned and operated roads, schools, etc)
>then just handpick who can come in

Kind of like a commune, except all white.

The Feds couldn't interfere because it's private land. As long as we paid our taxes on the land, we would be fine, right?

We could just pick an area with extremely low property taxes.

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communes are already all white

I've thought about this exact thing. I'm sure there's some form of catch I'm overlooking.

I live in east Montana at the moment, and I can tell you from experience the people here like the fact that it's fucking empty.

The last thing the big land owners here want is for people to come and develop their land.

There was an attempt.

>implying it wouldn't get Waco'd

It would be difficult to properly provide infrastructure. You probably couldn't put a school on the property as they would have to meet state requirements, one of which would be not to discriminate and allow for school choice.

>The Feds couldn't interfere because it's private land

You killed it

what happend?

they'd eventually hire hispanic immigrants to do some labor jobs and end up with USA 2.0 anyway

Youve got to keep all the land privately owned and rent it out or something. The courts will not enforce a covenant in a deed to restrict transfer to whites only. Cuz dats raycis n ilegal

The FBI will force you to sell a sawed off shotgun, and then murder your family.

There use to be groups like this up in Northern Idaho and Montana. But they all vanished by the late 90s.

Some nutjobs set themselves on fire and now other nutjobs blame the ATF for it.

Same thing with renting

Some federal nutjobs burnt some cultists (men women & children) alive

Yes, exactly what happened. The government said so.

>The Feds couldn't interfere because it's private land. As long as we paid our taxes on the land, we would be fine, right?

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For those of you pointing to Waco, laws still exist, missing persons, and statutory rape will be acted upon by the feds

Well assume we started with a 100 acre plot of land (can be purchased for like 300k or less in some parts of US)

Then we would only develop as much as we needed for our population.

>say we had a population of 2000 at first
>make a small little city center with a school and then have some houses/apartments scattered around it

Seems pretty straightforward to me. The problems would arise when the media/niggers found out and tried to ruin it.

The ATF, under the orders of Janet Reno and Hillary Clinton, killed 76 men women and children using bradley tanks and incendiaries.

>FBI Director Sessions, however, said the next day there was "no contemporary evidence" of child abuse. ( Report to the Deputy Attorney General on the Events at Waco, Texas, February 28 to April 19, 1993.) And Reno revised her statement several months later, agreeing there was no evidence of ongoing child abuse by Koresh

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>implying they broke any laws
Those grenades just fell off the back of the truck officer! I swear!

Jesus Christ imagine being so cucked you believe the government reports about Waco. Kill yourself immediately you fucking retard.

If you start to develop land then the tax changes.

Grazing land is cheaper than ag land. This is the problem ranchers in California are facing. Corporations are buying up grazing land, and planting almonds on it (to sell to the Chinese). This changes the land tax in the area and rises property tax.

If you bought a field full of stones, and removed it the tax changes. If you build a community then the land has to be zoned accordingly. That also means different tax.

Make a list of all laws and policies that hinder whites only communities. When you're finished, make a new Thread and everyone will send a Letter or something to Trump. Whenever you want to do a normal plead to the president or an ultimatum that if he wont repeal those things withing a certain timeframe or you'll revolt, is for you to decide. Personally I'd try both, the friendly one first and if nothing happens the second.

Cult in the middle of nowhere minding their own business, federal government goes ape shit over it, sieges the place, the cultists send their kids out, the police feed them ice cream and send them back in, proceed to run the place down with tanks and then set the entirely thing ablaze with everyone still in side. There's a good documentary that goes over it called Oklahoma City.

It would definitely have to be funded by some millionaire, but it should work theoretically.

Listen to the 99% Invisible podcast of Usonia houses. It's what you are talking about. Planned communal owned property. Never became popular, but it works.

>Why don't nationalists:
>>buy a large plot of land in Montana or something
>>develop the land into a little community with housing, a school, infrastructure
>>keep all of it privately owned. (Privately owned and operated roads, schools, etc)
>>then just handpick who can come in

because even hicks know that inbreeding will eventually extinct the pertaining group

so you'll have to remove the bad guys first before you can build something? well, sounds reasonable.

The other thing would be cost. I remember reading an article about how much it would cost to buy every property in a city. In order to have even a small city, like ~10,000, it'd probably cost over a billion dollars to just build the housing.

they call these places Cults. and after that whole Jonestown thing, the feds tend to keep an eye on them.

>The Feds couldn't interfere because it's private land.
Do you really believe this?

Yeah last time someone did that they all got massacred

It's called Waco

>so you'll have to remove the bad guys first before you can build something? well, sounds reasonable.

It would be easier and more marketable to just cleanse the United States of non-whites.

(((Zoning)))

Zoning & variances were the things that drove me to be a libertarian in my high school days.

Property taxes should be illegal and it should be illegal for foreigners/foreign firms to own or rent US land.

We won't give them a reason to this time. From what I've read about that, the community there had multiple firearms violations.

Actually outrageous that that happened.

I'm mad.

OP doesn't know that Utah exists.
Chaffetz is leaving the govt to head back to his nationalist paradise.

Watch the documentary and you'll be McVeigh's biggest fans.

The logistics would also be of concern. How do you advertise to get people to come? You can't just place an ad in the national papers saying free housing for white only. I think everything could be done but it would require a massive amount of planning

What made them cultists?

It doesn't matter, when the Liberals get into power again they'll just invent new laws for you to be guilty of so that all your hard work is ruined because you didn't want to share (give away) the spoils of your labor to those who do less than nothing.

That's my plan for Europe. Just hit everything that doesn't look white and you can't be too wrong. Getting (((them))) is a lot more difficult but there are ways to find them too.

The thing is, the US was desperately looking for a reason to (((liberate))) them.

If we tried to make a homogeneous isolated cult-zone, the media would go full fascist on us as soon as they found out. So gay.

They believe in some end of days shit. They had a bunch of equipment in the compound for the aftermath.

Take out media first?

True. They would probably fuck with the property tax code so that our little cult wasn't financially sustainable anymore.

So they were just d-day preppers?

Link?

Thanks user.

>Property taxes should be illegal and it should be illegal for foreigners/foreign firms to own or rent US land.

Agree. But foreigners/corporations will find ways around it. Hell even the Homesteading Act was full of corporations backing one individual to buy up all the water on a land.

My grandfather use to 'own' a house and property in Portugal. He essentially got a business contact to buy him a place, and had him live in the guest house, and maintain the property it when he wasn't there.

Basically, yeah. Watch the documentary.

Is everybody here really too new to remember pol (or was it new? I forget now) being spammed constantly by the Pacific northwest threads by the fat swarthy fuck that wanted to do exactly that? I wonder what happened to those guys now that I think about it. They just kind of stopped.

Well no. But I meant that's the general legal concept.

(Kinda sad that it's not the case in reality)

Ok, is it on JewTube?

top kek
Why is it that only scrawny white people like communism?

They try this all the time. Thing is, they can never get more than 40 people together before irreconcilable disputes break out. Alpha male vs mentally unstable Alpha Male and neither will back down.

t.Montanan

Same thing with all the island faggots. They got bored and moved on.

have you heard of WACO? beacuse thats what happens

Think so. I pirated it.
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Wish I had a seecamp. They're like 450 dollars though and an LCP or TCP are like 170ish, and are are functionally better guns.

Because nationalists support and believe in their current nation. Not some random and arbitrary shitty plot of land.

True. They would find ways around it. But the property tax thing is spot on. My parents pay 10,000 a year in property tax. If you're paying 10,000 a year in tax, you don't own the property, you're renting it. Property taxes should be illegal.

Fuck you.

The idea of forming White enclaves in a sea of subhumans is just a 90's meme and a bad way of thinking, it would turn North America into Brazil 2.0 and a constant struggle of defend the castle against Dante and Antwoine sneaking in at night to score some expensive bicycles.

Don't worry buddy they'll find a "violation".

Because the ATF totally has jurisdiction to enforce missing persons or statutory rape right? Kill yourself.

>From what I've read about that, the community there had multiple firearms violations.
Not really. The feds never found full auto weapons, only parts that could potentially be used to make full autos

Kek.

I think most of the people who try it want to create literal cults though.

It would work a lot better if it was just like a neighborhood that happened to be privately owned, and the private owner only allowed white people to live on his land.

>their land
its not their land if people buy it you dumbass

The fucks at the ATF literally said some UPS guy found grenades that fell out of his truck. Do you honestly believe that nonsense happened? They don't need a reason to kill you.

Does anyone know what ever happened to this?

>The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:

>Patriotism
>Pride in American Exceptionalism
>Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
>Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or >Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.
>The Citadel is not your typical planned community where the developer's objective is selling cookie-cutter homes at the highest possible profit-margin.

>The Citadel is not profit-driven. The Citadel is Liberty-driven: specifically Thomas Jefferson's Rightful Liberty.

>Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.

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commune doesnt mean communist retard

They'd claim you had illegal weapons and then burn everyone to death with tanks and snipers.

Source: Waco.

Imagine a gated community that was entirely privately owned.

Then the private owner would build like 100 houses on his land, and allow certain people to live there for free.

>As long as we paid our taxes on the land, we would be fine, right?
BEEP BEEP!!! WE NEED A NEW OIL PIPELINE AND A HIGHWAY AND YOUR SHIT IS IN THE WAY!

Imagine being burned alive for free.

Then don't call it a commune, call it a community. Whites should start and maintain white communities where they hold each other to similar ethical and moral standards, right?

Sorry, just the fucking word "commune" pisses me off. I hate Communists so fucking much and I'm a bit drunk. Carry on.

Ahh this makes me miss libertarianism.

(((Imminent domain)))

pedo cult in the middle of nowhere. Basically white dindus who got shot after they sperged out

Let's do it in Waco, TX!

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>nationalist
>libertarian
Literally opposing viewpoints

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>pedo cult
I didnt know that was the ATFs jurisdiction

I recommend doing this in Greenland. Sup Forums could likely overthrow the native population within a few years, at least in Nuuk.

>farmers market
>no farmland

Are you intending to grow everything in underground greenhouses?

they DID NOT set themselves on fire. there is video of ATF using tanks mounted with flamethrowers, they charged through the walls and set them ablaze. look it up on youtube,

im going to bed nigger

Eventually you will get uncle sams attention and hook or by crook you will be burned alive with some bullshit excuse like illegal firearms or "grenade casings and blackpowder."
If you want a future for your family the best thing is a smaller enclave. Private property, make sure the deed states it must be passed on to family and it can't be sold to someone outside the family. Won't last forever, never know. Might end up with some fag grandson who sells to so he can move to California 60 years from now but you do what ya got to do.
10-20 people on 100-200 acres. Wall that shit up. Walls where built around cities of antiquity for a reason. They keep the barbarians out. A physical barrier is VERY important in the future. Remote and walled up.
No power or electric on the property, no gas lines, no bills. The less you have dealings with any company or outside group the better. Make your own.

You grow outside the walls

Yeah but the government uses taxes to promote racemixing/multiculturalism. Thus, certain libertarian arguments (like lower taxes) can be used to better the nationalist's position.

Group of families, anti fed... had modified some guns to make them full automatic (10yrs prison)

Federal gov went in, looots of armed men, and somehow set the building on fire... burning everyone even children

Some guy tried doing this in Lieth North Dakota. There is a documentary on it.

>feds had no evidence to prove they were doing anything of the sort
>just happen to burn everything and everyone to ash

Probably, or end up accusing you of molesting the kids like they did to all the ones in the 90s

Utah is far from a nationalist paradise. Its shit, I live there.

You have the best national parks in the country it can't be that shit

The statists don't like it when people try to live apart from the rest of society.

Just look at Ruby Ridge - a guy and his family tried to just live alone and live in peace. Feds shot his son in the back and a sniper executed his wife while she was holding their infant child.

People have tried this shit plenty of times in the past and it almost always ends badly.