/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL - REMOVE DEMOCRACY EDITION

This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, Anti-Communism, Right-Wing Populism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian.

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How do one remove democracy as a whole? I mean you pretty much has to go through the politcal/democratic process first then remove it.
But what can one do about democracy not rising again?

Using the political process would be ideal. How would someone establish democracy over property owners rights in ancapistan? Socialist and cuckhold propaganda maybe, if you could get it into my covenant of which I will not tolerate.

This is a good question. First of all you have to understand democracy eventual leads to socialism which very quickly becomes tyrannical. To get to where we our now many peoples and groups worked relentlessly to lay the foundations for today's political climate.

Socialists found it hard to penetrate conservative Christian Europe with their atheistic and communist ideology. So socialists took hold of the education system. Gradually socialists attacked the Church. Later on they forced integration, not merely repealing segregation. They gave women the vote. Began getting women into the work force. Began the sexual revolution and feminist movement. Later on they imported thousands upon thousands of immigrants with backwards cultures. People who are fundamentally different from the native population. They propped up a welfare state, made divorce easy and gave out welfare to anyone. They grew the scope of government and broke down the family. Instilled people with evolution and atheism and multiculturalism. They destroyed the family and pushed homosexuality and now transgenderism. Everything to disrupt the natural order.

Socialists monetize conflict and they sow the seeds for conflict.

Racism wouldn't be an issue if we didn't have a multi-racial society. People would be more active in their community if everybody was of the same ethnicity and shared a similar language and religion. They encouraged hedonism by exposing them to moral relativism in school and sex ed. They got the mothers out of the work place by indoctrinating them via the media and school system. They taught us that two men can make a family. An idea so disgusting and opposed to nature and reality. Socialists create the problem they want to solve. That's why government intervention begets more intervention.

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Without a state to provide a standard currency, how would money work in an ancap society? Each corporation would have to provide their own money that the others could just not accept. This would cuck everyone. Pic unrelated.

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The solution thus is, education (either privatizing the school system or a voucher system where the state can no longer dictate the curriculum), pushing a commodity based currency, opposing immigration, encouraging women to rear the children and preferably home school, encouraging conservative values, promoting Christianity and unwinding the state. But ultimately by birthing more children raised by people who prize liberty and not handing over to the state or letting them be influenced by them.

A commodity based standard. Based on something like gold or silver, or anything of value.

Banks would issue banknotes and people would trade with them.

Competitive banking my dude, like we kinda have globally. The best currency is used, kinda like the way USD is accepted outside the states because of it's value.

>, if you could get it into my covenant of which I will not tolerate.
What does Hoppe teach in this regard? What does he mean by physical removal. Is he saying that in a commune if a resident is promoting communism that they must be evicted from the commune or what? Does that mean forcibly. How would that occur?

Most of you are workers so why support the lbr? It's not in your self interest

Still if corporations are in charge then they choose what currency they accept. In addition to no minimum wage it will cuck everyone but big business owners

>Later on they imported thousands upon thousands of immigrants with backwards cultures
No my friend that's what capitalists did for cheap labour

> Still if corporations are in charge then they choose what currency they accept.
Yes. But corporations are owned by many people. People who hire people to run the corporation and can be fired or sued if they act in ways that affect the corporation's profit. Also why would someone open a business with the notion in mind that they are going to reject the most popular form of currency, that is a gold based one. It's like me flying to Denmark and opening a hot dog stand but all accepting Aussie dollars.

> In addition to no minimum wage it will cuck everyone but big business owners
You've made an assertion but no argument. What are you reasons for believing this?

telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

Where's the evidence for that claim?

> Most of you are workers so why support the lbr?
What is the lbr?

>labour
>socialist
They are social democrats
>evidence
Because more people to labour for cheaper = more profits and it's what capitalists do if you've looked at history

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He compares physical removal to excommunication. Ostracization mostly, but in a real world I'd imagine people might actually use force to remove such vilified outcasts. I myself embrace the meme tho, helicopters and all. I think there's a Libertarian case for it.

A society where a population threatens to " seize the means of production" , starts, riots, and destroys property is not a libertarian society. They have to be removed much like the state-by any means necessary.

Fuck that leftist meme, capitalism favors the middle class.

No it favours the corporation's not small businesses

>A commodity based standard. Based on something like gold or silver, or anything of value.

How will that work with international trade ?
Or scale with population size ?
Or deal with inflation/deflation/economic collapse?

It kinda just sounds like a way to get assfucked by global markets with stronger economies.

You said

> Most of you are workers so why support the lbr? It's not in your self interest

You didn't give any reasons to suggest why it's not in the self interest of workers. How do you expect to be taken seriously?

> Because more people to labour for cheaper = more profits and it's what capitalists do if you've looked at history
The Labour party is left leaning and founded on socialist principles like social justice and wealth redistribution.

Also you said it was capitalists who import third world immigrants. Where's the evidence behind this conspiracy?

Thanks for the explanation

How so? There's no regulations/subsidization to protect corporate monopolies.

> How will that work with international trade ?
Since banks will have gold or silver reserves and the bank notes will be titles of ownership to that gold people can withdraw the gold and deposit it in a local bank. I imagine that banks will cooperate with each other to make it easier for their customers.

> Or scale with population size ?
Why would that be an issue? Different commodities could be used in lieu of gold and silver, and of course more gold could be discovered.

> Or deal with inflation/deflation/economic collapse?
These questions although very good and sensible merit a better treatment.

mises.org/library/10-gold-standard-theory-and-myth

Not an argument

The U.S. dollar was more valuable than the ruble, but there were more rubles. The corporation would make more profits on the U.S. dollar and reject the ruble.

Without a minimum wage corporations could freely cuck employees in the name of profits.

Privately owned anything won't cooperate its a competitive market

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> The U.S. dollar was more valuable than the ruble, but there were more rubles. The corporation would make more profits on the U.S. dollar and reject the ruble.
I don't understand what you are saying. A company could price a certain product at say $10 dollars and then equivalent value in rubles.

> Without a minimum wage corporations could freely cuck employees in the name of profits.
Go re-read what I said. You've repeated yourself. You really make it hard for anyone to take you seriously.

You have this habit of asserting something but not arguing your point. Maybe you're an only child and so your parents treated you like a little prince. Just because you say something is so, doesn't make it so. What are you reasons for believing that?

fucking based Kent man

>Since banks will have gold or silver reserves ...

Yeah i get your solution to local trade, but in international trade you currency essentially has to be tied to both the gold standard/your chosen precious object standard and an international currency to trade other countries with. And that wont work if your local price of "gold" is different to the global price of "gold". At best your looking at a currency that regularly swings a few percent a day, that deters foreign interests and requires an economy that is permanently in recession/deflation (As the price of gold rises).
That doesn't seem like a great idea, just putting it out there.


>Why would that be an issue?
Im assuming your going to be using coins/notes/currency that at lest partially contains the "gold", as that is usually what ancaps/goldbugs say when advocating for gold standards.
For a significantly large population your going to be dividing the gold into such small amounts that measurement would become impractical (your looking at like 0.025 grams per dollar at current global prices, getting to the nearest 10 cents or even 50 cents would require expensive scientific scales)
If you mean simply a gold-backed currency how would you ensure people would have adequate access to their gold should they want to withdraw it ?
Im not sure people would be very happy if their savings were rounded up or down a few thousand because the bank didn't have the equipment to adequately measure their gold withdraw.
Furthermore how would you procure all this gold ?
I know it sounds a bit silly, but at the moment, all gold that has been mined is currently in use in some form or another, collecting enough gold to create a gold-backed currency with a somewhat reasonable market cap would be a colossal task, one i don't think is reasonably possible.
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How is this Libertarianism?

> but in international trade you currency essentially has to be tied to both the gold standard/your chosen precious object standard and an international currency to trade other countries with
There wouldn't be one currency. One bank might issues whereby $1 is worth 1/1000 ounce of silver. $10 1/100, $100 1/10, $1000 1 oz of silver. Other banks might offer $2 1/1000 ounce of silver. That's up to them.

> And that wont work if your local price of "gold" is different to the global price of "gold".
Why not? Price of gold? Currencies would be based on gold.

> Im assuming your going to be using coins/notes/currency that at lest partially contains the "gold", as that is usually what ancaps/goldbugs say when advocating for gold standards.
Maybe in the case of the coins but the notes might be cotton or some synthetic material.

> For a significantly large population your going to be dividing the gold into such small amounts that measurement would become impractical (your looking at like 0.025 grams per dollar at current global prices, getting to the nearest 10 cents or even 50 cents would require expensive scientific scales)
Again, people could use silver, or other metals. Why would this be impractical? Especially if banks mint their own money.

> If you mean simply a gold-backed currency how would you ensure people would have adequate access to their gold should they want to withdraw it ?
That would be the banks problem.

> Furthermore how would you procure all this gold ?
People would deposit their gold at the bank for safe keeping in exchange for notes or they have record in their account electronically.

> I know it sounds a bit silly, but at the moment, all gold that has been mined is currently in use in some form or another,
Well the owners of the gold would way it up. Do we continue to use the gold as we are now, could we use a substitute and liquidate our gold? It's up to them.

How is it not libertarian? There's no speak of state enforcing such morality on you if you don't want to abide by conservative values.

>mises.org/library/10-gold-standard-theory-and-myth

Not to be a cunt here m8, but im not about to listen to 90 mins of shilling for a viewpoint for a thread that will probably be gone in like 30 mins.
If you could summarize the general points or point me towards a written source that i can peruse at my own leisure that would be fantastic.

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But what's the point of holding such values if they aren't enforced?

I don't agree with globalism and multiculturalism either but laws have to be implemented to prevent them

I am not too well versed to give you an adequate response. Sorry. I am enjoying your questions however I wouldn't know how to respond.

A gold standard is not susceptible to inflation because a bank that is issuing more titles of ownership (bank notes) in disproportionate amount to the gold they have would be sued and out of business soon. Competition in the market of money would also make this an unprofitable endeavor. Deflation isn't a big issue. Prices go down for both labour and commodities. The market adjust itself. Inflation when the US had a gold standard only ever reached 1 to 2%. Contrast that to today's economy where our targets are at 5%.

> I don't agree with globalism and multiculturalism either but laws have to be implemented to prevent them
They don't. Since discrimination wouldn't be illegal. People could begin to segregate based on ideology, race and religion. Thus communes would form where residents sign contracts where they swear to not sell to certain people. All of this is done voluntarily. Don't conflate anarchy with absolute lawlessness.

PaleoLibertarians like Rothbard and Hoppe are Anarcho Capitalists, they advocate for a system of private law compatible with Libertarianism. In short, you form a private community that prohibits homosexuality. Your free to leave if you don't like it. Any you're subject to expulsion if you defy the rules of the covenant community.

Please excuse my shit typos, I'm phoneposting.

enforcing is a coercitive action therefore leading to a violent response

Haven't been on Sup Forums in quite some time and I must say, I like this thread.

Unless you've made a contractual agreement abide by such rules.

Oh look it's a marxist who's concept of "interests" does not extend beyond: "give me free shit, consequences be damned"

congratz, you have the mindset of a 4 year old

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>One bank might issues whereby $1 ...
With no standardization of currency does that not cause issues with payment ?
Especially since the banks could arbitrarily increase/decrease the dollar/silver ratio at whim, and would it not cause confusion when $1 =$5 but also = $3.42. It sounds like a needlessly complex version of a basic bartering economy.
Also whats stopping someone from opening a bank with no "gold" backing, or severely insufficient "gold" backing and start handing out more certificates than they have on hand. Would you not need a governing body to regulate this ?
And what is in place to keep the banks honest (please don't say the customers, everyone thought banks had adequate cash before every great bank run) .

>Why not? Price of gold? Currencies would be based on gold.
No, yeah i get that.
Your currency is based on gold, but other countries currencies are not.
To trade internationally you would either be shipping gold world-wide for national trade or need to convert it into a currency that is not based on gold.
If you expect your banks to do this conversion for you, they will do so at a cost making your currency not based on the price of gold, but the price of gold and the price of their services. And given that the banks are private entities with little to no oversight they can bounce the value of your currency around like the basketball in a globetrotters match.
And times that by a few hundred as each bank, has the ability to issue their own currency. With the added swings of gold prices daily.
Its a very unstable solution and instability reduces investment due to increased risk.


>Again, people could use silver...
You can use anything you want, the issue is that among any significant sized population division of said materials will be impractical at best due to the exact measures reacquired. If your using a high-value metal such as gold, divisions would be impractically small, especially if you currency/the

Yes, but the state never ask

I agree with you there, I was referring to a private contractual agreement. I'm not talking about "muh social contract"

price of gold increases as you would be looking at measurements that required sub nano-gram accuracy.
And if you use less valuable metals storage becomes an issue as does damage to them while in storage, market caps, supplying and sourcing the metals etc.
I mean hell, in silver alone with the meager amounts i have in savings, i could fill half a room with 1kg silver bullion.

>Especially if banks mint their own money.
This seems like it is essentially institutionalizing corruption.
You are allowing them to both control production of a currency and set the "value" of it.
I dont mean to be rude, but i don't see how any sane individual would ever invest or trust the money of these banks that essentially run off the "trust us, we probably wont destroy your savings" and little to no oversight.

>That would be the banks problem.
It would be the people's problem immediately if there was nothing to withdraw.
If a large bank collapses you essentially have a large population of your people now penniless, hungry and pissed off.
That is how almost every revolution/insurgency/civil war in the last 3000 years has started.

>People would deposit their gold at the bank for safe keeping in exchange for notes or they have record in their account electronically.
This would require the people to procure a sizable chunk of gold in the first place, or conversion from other currencies to start the trend of a gold backed currency.
the retail price of gold is far higher than market prices so people "starting" the gold backed currency trend would be be losing a significant portion of their savings immediately by converting.
It's basically assfucking the people you need to start this.

>Well the owners of the gold would way it up
I think you mis-understand.
There is already a global supply/demand for gold that is sitting at a rough equilibrium, with most of the gold existing currently in the form of jewelry and electronics.

How could anyone think Keynes was correct?

>People do not invest if they think that they are not going to get a return, so the State has to take their money and invest them forcefully.

Why the fuck should an investment turn magically good just because the State did it?

>It does not matter if something is useful or not, just throw around paper money so those who received will be able to spend them and the economy runs once again

wtf I hate working now! just start up the press senpai

Having several million people requiring gold for basic day to day purchases and economic activity essentially drives the demand for gold way up.
This would help increase your market cap (that would still be limited by gold/standard reserves, and that is an extremely poor idea on a global scale as it makes you unable to respond to the financial climate, your economy's strength and puts you at the mercy of gold prices that have been historically highly manipulated) but it would basically make your country completely unstable due to the erratic supply/demand your country would require.
If a mining company shuts down, trade is impaired or any countries decide to put some political pressure on your country by buying/selling gold you are basically shafted.

Plus having something that is traded on the market like gold is just generally a bad idea, you essentially have an economy that is in permanent deflation due to the historic unstopped rising of of metal prices.

Hello. Mom and dad never loved me during my growth years, so in order to fill this void in my being I need to exert my internal problems onto other human beings by participating in violence and slavery called "government" because I care.

I actually care about people so much I think they should be required by gun point to help fund roads! So they can get to work of course...

I care about roads so much, that I'm going to completely ignore the fact that a clandestine guild of dark occult, child raping, baby eating, blood drinking, satanic, psychopathic, elite group of men that run the world and its politics through blackmail, murder, gematria, and drugs. Why worry about the 800,000 children missing each year in the USA when you can't have roads??? Besides, current system does such a great job of taking care MY roads anyway. I've never seen a pothole in my life!

Ancaps btfo!

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AnCap Andy is /ourguy/ as fuck.

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This is all part of ((their)) plan init?

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Hey you guys, it's me Jeffrey. I'm just checking in on you, making sure you all keep it multicultural and don't spread any hatespeech. Libertarianism is inclusive!

Is that spocks daughter? Her nose needs a bit of a treading tbqh

can't you read her shirt? it says don't tread on her

Wont tread on her - but I'll rape her!

That's libertarianism - it KILLS feminism. That's the point :D

We're keepin' it Kosher, Cucker! :^)

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