US loses again in tank competition against Germany and Germany jr

For the second year in a row, a US armored brigade competed in the Strong Europe Tank Challenge against a range of European partners — and lost.

Austria, which didn't participate last year, took gold, while Germany came in second. The US came in third, but given the purpose of the challenge, that's nothing to be ashamed of.

"This is a competition, but it's not really about the competition," Sgt. Maj. David Glenn, 7th Army Training Command's operations senior noncommissioned officer, said in a US Army statement. "It's really about training, partnership, esprit de corps, and interoperability."

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>the current year
>relying on tanks

I suppose you'll want to have a battleship competition next? WW2 is over.

>nothing to be ashamed off
>it really is about esprit de corps
>losing is fine

Haha, Americans really lost their fighting spirit.

What are the challenges?

Shut up, a Dreadnought competition would be glorious.

read about it a few days ago.. how is it possible? germany i understand, but austria?

>lost their fighting spirit
We've come up with better ways to kill, is all.

they got kangaroos n stuff m8

>WE WUZ TANKS

stfu cucks

we are basically the masterrace.
thats why we dont even took part in this shitty contest the last years

Are we really ignoring that he calls Austria Germany jr.?

South Tyrol belongs to Germany jr.

A member of my close circle is in the army and does these competitions. Obviously, countries like America do not show their full abilities at such events, because a medal is not worth showing the world how really performant you are. It's a fact that these exercises are closer to a sports competition than a military one.

But don't worry Eurocucks, America is still waaay better than you'll ever be, military wise. And seeing how profoundly cucked and niggered you are, the Swiss army would probably kick your ass too before dinner time. Strength is not the forte of satanist pedo mafias like (((Europe))).

>What are the challenges?
I don't know, driving a tank, firing at targets, maybe parking in reverse?

>I-i's 4d chess, I promise
>the us military industrial complex isn't corporate wellfare that chugs out pure shit, pls believe me goys

>Be from south tyrol
>Hate Germany and Austria
>Fight to become italian
>See your friends die in the war
>Eventually win
>Look at what Italy is like after 100 years
>Vote referendum for independence

>He thinks land wars aren't a thing anymore
kek

>Learning from our mistakes is bad
I know this is something you don't do Germany, but the rest of the world tries to avoid declaring war on everyone and invading Russia in the late summer if you catch my drift.

>I suppose you'll want to have a battleship competition next?
I would pay so much for this

Americans have these Battleship competition in their indoor pools. Really gay I must say.

They aren't, as soon as anyone even tried to move tanks onto our land they would have a MOAB dropped on them.

At least we can get into pools without getting raped by migrants.

Sorry - I temporarily forgot most people here are retarded

tanks dont exist anymore dude, they are only used vs worthless shitskins.

in a european land war america vs russia, without nukes, all hardware would be destroyed day 1. it would be man vs man.

chicken dinner

>le tiger tanks is best
>s-shitty Sherman Americans will never win
>please stop raping our women and destroying our cities

I thought we went through this already. Having the best tanks don't mean shit. Its how many can you make. How many tanks does Germany have?

Getting raped by native niggers.

really got me there burger.

>Daily reminder Germany is 97% white

>combined arms isn't a thing
You do realise in modern warfare land, sea and air have to work together for full effect because one branch is useless without the help from another? Real wafare scenarios between first world nations would not turn in to Ace Combat!

Tanks don't matter if a 1000lbs American JDAM is being dropped on you. And I think it always goes back to that famous saying "one tiger tank is worth 4 Sherman's but the Americans always had five" or it went something along those lines

P.s Fuck Germany

Congrats Germany and Germany Jr.

Like diabetes or some sort of supper virus which feeds on your poop when you shart in the mart.

Austria stronk

We've won some and lost some. There is no shame in a top-flight tank corps losing wargames against other top-flight tank corps.

This is an exercise in training and interoperability with NATO partners. Not a pissing contest.

The Germans and Austrians have always done well in these tank meets, even if they didn't win the competition.

It's also worth noting that Ukraine came in last.

No, that is Jamal's car! He needed it to deliver pizza! You destroyed his whole livelihood for no reason whatsoever. Why?!!!

Not for long,

already had a rapefugee get grabby with a little kid at a public pool here in cuckachusetts

More proof Austria is the only true German state in Europe.

tank warfares ded m8

congra(((jew)))lations hans you made a better obsolete piece of military hardware than america

to bad anti tank rockets are compact and easy to use and cheap to manufacture. russia sells them by the pallet. i dont think you can take the baltics in those things if russia makes a move. which i doubt they will but nobody takes those things seriously any more

That's probably because the Ukraine hasn't had as much experience in working with NATO divisions as the longtime members.

What a retarded discussion. EUROPEAN COUNTRIES ARE THE AMERICAN JEWS PAWN. What do you not understand about this? They want you to do something then you do it. End of discussion, there will never be an EU vs. US fight.

but Austria has that experience?

Helicopters>Tanks

Because we're assholes.

hahah

Tanks are actually still used a lot. If anything lesser armored vehicles are becoming obsolete while tanks are becoming more useful. They are the only vehicles that are holding up ok to IEDs and rockets. If we had invaded Iraq without armored columns it would have taken a hell of a lot longer than 2 weeks to oust Saddam's government.

2 blokes with an Igla innabush>Helicopters

Back in the late 1980's, when I was stationed in Germany with the 3rd AD, the Austrians did well in these kind of exercises even then.

They may have a small military, but they are well-trained and professional.

>implying you wouldn't watch that

So-called "experts" have been spouting this shit for decades now. And it's never come to pass.

Armored fighting vehicle technology will always adapt to changing threats on the battlefield.

Tanks>muslims

Thats what counts

Tanks are for children
You are like little babby, watch this
>be Ancap
>own tomahawk missiles
>attempt the selling of small humans so i can pay the missile mortgage
>"What do you mean I can not sell my children?"
>Annex myself from potential buyer
>Fire tomahawk missile at them in retaliation
nahnah booboo I win you looooose!

Russia also spends a huge amount on developing tanks, why would they waste their money if they made the platform obsolete? What tanks are good at is moving quickly, avoiding soldiers that can attack them, breaking through a weak spot in enemy defenses and then wreaking havoc on the enemy's support units. As front line enemies rapidly retreat to try and catch the tanks, your own regular infantry can advance quickly through abandoned positions. America still uses these blitz tactics today and used them to great effect in Iraq.

so neutral countries participated in NATO maneuvres?

Kudos, Straya. Kudos.

Yes. Even the French, who were formally part of NATO's military command structure.

Austria was still allied to NATO even if not a member-state.

Oops, typo.

*Not formally part of the NATO command structure

i cant take the military seriously ever since this happened
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the French were associated, Austria was and is neutral, not an ally.

Thank god I dodged Conscription somehow
Military is for cucks

>I dodged Conscription
dont you dare call yourself a patriot

What a faggot.

The Leopard series is a really nice package of mobility, armor and firepower, it tends to dominate in these competitions.

why would a patriot want to be a mercenary?

Austria participated in NATO war planning, and were a key to any NATO efforts in that region if war broke out.That makes them allies in all but name.

If war with the WarPac had broken out, the Austrians were well aware that their neutrality wouldn't be respected by the Soviets and their allies. So, Austria worked with NATO on military affairs (mutual defense).

Use those tanks to defend your people fucking faggot. You have nothing to be proud of.

>Thank god I dodged Conscription somehow
Not being tauglich and going for EF. What kind of cuck are you?

Man, that country really went downhill since the 1990s. Thank God I left it back in 2000 after my year in the military.

Stay on your side, loser.
Fuck I hate faggots so much, why do homosexuals like me?

why are you misrepresenting what i said?

>german tanks

doesn't sound plausible, Austria joined the
partnership for peace not before 1995, and intercepted NATO jets violating her airspace.

Just because niggers don't go in the water.

>roach crews
Almost as bad as Russian ones.

am I? How is it in any way patriotic to be conscripted into armed forces serving foreign interests? Admittedly I was dumb enough not to dodge it when I could.

Talk all the shit you want, we didn't flood our country with retarded "refugees"

Roach crews = german crews

Don't you believe in having pride for your nation & identity user? Who cares if we have a free Israel on the side, don't you think the Jews deserve better after all those thousands of years of invasion & like three to twenty billion of their people MASSACRED?? Shameful.

then, why are large parts of the USA a 3rd world shithole?

You seriously think we sold the Turks good tanks?

mandatory military service in austria exists to ensure the country can potentially defend itself. whatever else the military does is seperate from mandatory service.

if you don't want to handle weapons, go be a paramedic. there's options. and if you're actually crippled, fine, but people who dodge on purpose need to be put up against a wall. fucking turboindividualist wallflowers muh i'm too smart to do my basic duty as a citizen look at me.

There is nothing wrong with 2A4s. They are great tanks for their age and ALL blame lies on the Turkroach crews manning them and their piece of shit tactics. The morons used them as static pillboxes on top of hills and strongpoints and then a bunch of ignorant fucknuts start blaming the tanks themselves.

The 2A4s Turkey uses were built in the early '80's, and are seriously obsolete today, like the rest of the Roach military.

Now that hard kill countermeasures are a thing, you never know...

Those are Leopard 1, they were made in like the sixties

>and are seriously obsolete today
No they aren't.

Ever try sinking four americans on a canoe? The water displacement makes it un-sinkable

No thats actually 2a4

>>Those are Leopard 1
Nope. Turkish Leopard 2A4s, lost because roaches can't into warfare anymore.

pride in a hive of Merkelian scum? Israel at least has a valid reason to maintain conscription.

defend itself against whom?
Who again wants to restrict weapon possession all the time?
Those who dodge conscription and prefer to have freedom are the true defenders of liberty.

>be Europe
>spend tons of time and effort weeding out plebs to create the ultimate tank crews to crush the competition
>spend all year ruthlessly drilling to ensure a totally harmonious crew
>be US
>send whatever pack of niggers and spics got assigned to whatever random armored unit
>got told they need to participate in this bullshit so they do 2 weeks of drills real quick

K?

When you are strong, appear weak. When you are weak, appear strong

...

>american military
Reminder that both French and german submarines managed to sneak past carrier defense fleet and managed to sink them in nato wargames just a few years ago.

>Obviously, countries like America do not show their full abilities at such events
Oh please, stop spouting bullshit. The average American soldier is inferior to his European counterpart, simply because the military apparatus is so fuckhuge in the states and it absorbs people from the lower classes like a fucking sponge. The typical grunt is a two-digit IQ fucker, either some ghetto-ass nigger or an inbred hick.

>be american
>lose

heh

Don't they all have same tanks?

>Those who dodge conscription and prefer to have freedom are the true defenders of liberty.
spoken like a true cuck. nevermind societal cohesion and having your neighbour's back

i see they programmed you well

how did austria win a tank competition against germany, when austrian tanks are just the older version of the german tanks?!

The armor package they have is seriously out of date. Of course that doesn't excuse the retardation of parking them on a hilltop and waiting to get hit by anti-tank missiles, but the added armor of the 2A5 and later probably would have helped.

What triggered it?