Daily Reminder: Venezuela is 96% Roman Catholic and a utopian paradise. Real DEUS VULTures will emigrate there immediately and soak up the products of papal infallibility.
Jose Moore
>96% Catholic False, a lot of the Chavistas are atheists or kikes/crypto kikes
Grayson Green
I know it's you, faggot. I will haunt you the rest of your days.
Irenaeus was a Jew. Take his gematria bullshit and get out.
Catholics are not Christian. Catholicism is a separate religion, crated by Jews, to control Christians.
Fuck off. Out out out.
Juan Nelson
Ok, never mind about that 'angry prods welcome' bit
The truth hurts. Your religion is totalitarian in nature and critically flawed. Break the conditioning and get out of it.
Alexander Howard
"created by Jews, to control Christians." for a religion controlled by jews, it sure killed and exiled allot of jews.
William Cox
Find Christ, anons. Do not listen to these demons. These soul merchants. They will receive you and mislead you away from the Lord.
Find Christ, anons! The Kingdom of God is within you!
Find Christ. The Kingdom of God is within you.
Connor Morgan
As a Brit, this argument is doubly ironic because it was a Catholic King (Edward I) who expelled the Jews. This lasted for almost 4 centures until a Protestant (Oliver Cromwell) deposed the King, & allowed the Jews to return
Blake Collins
Do you guys think marriage right now is corrupt? It seems like it's more of a business and a completely different beast than the marriage that existed when it was written about in the Bible. Do you think God would still support marriage today? Personally I don't think so. Marriage, at least up here, is heavily skewed in the favor of the woman. Same with child custody. I've been "engaged" with a girl for a few years now, do you guys think having sex with her is still a sin, just because we didn't go through the legal process called "marriage"? I'm not trying to start a debate or insult anyone here, I'm just asking if you guys think marriage today is still supported by the Bible or if you think it isn't necessary in its current form seeing as how it's totally different now than it was 2000 years ago. God bless.
>Totalitarian Having a hierachy is not totalitarian. Meanwhile Protestant are kike lovers, freemasons, and don't care about theology.
Easton Stewart
Anglicans are the most powerful race in the world.
Carson Sanders
Paul talked abut marriage in Corinthains. They had their own issues because there was a famine going on, which is why he told some to hold off the engagement, those verses are still valid to defend Celebate Priests but my point is that Paul said If there are issues or risks in marriage for you personally, then don't marry, but it is good to marry if you can find a real wife. If you are sure that this lady will not subject you to the laws of this generation then go ahead.
Benjamin Long
this is a nice thread
Owen Watson
Our Lord never said marriage was important because of any state-sanctioned benefits. It's important because it's a sacrament & a solemn promise,not just to your spouse, but to God. Marriage has been suffered because of the throw-away culture that abhors anything that implies permanence, but that does not, nor could anything, negate the importance the Bible, Our Lord & the Church place on marriage
I was close to jeronimos today, i visited a old art museum, had a lot of catholic art. Would like to post some pictures i took but the files are too big.
Thomas Rogers
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Andrew Richardson
All Roman Catholics, including Jean de Valette, King Baldwin, Richard the Lionheart, and Saint Louis King of France
Adam Edwards
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Isaiah Young
Essential
Cooper Walker
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Cameron Cooper
Can somebody give me a rundown on the various theories of salvation (ie penal substitution, Christus Victor, etc), and which most conforms to the teachings of the Church? I always get conflicting answers. When I look into the Church Fathers, most seem to endorse Christus Victor, although later doctors and scripture itself tends toward atonement.
And if the atonement theory is true, wouldn't it be satisfactory for Christ to simply die and not resurrect?
t. ex-Muslim, interested in Christianity
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Austin Carter
I've been there personally. Jeronimos, Belem Tower, the statue of the explorers etc. I was very impressed. You also have the largest flag I've ever seen at the top of the main street near the gardens.
Also, out of all the cities I've been to, Lisbon was the one in which I was offered drugs the quickest. I was walking down the main street, & I must have looked like a typical burned Brit abroad, &some guy asked if I wanted heroin.
>no ty, but ty for asking kind, random portugese man
Aaron Wright
Catholicism is closer to Talmudic Judaism than Christianity. Your pope sucking tribe needs to learn who Christ is, rather than that psycopath Yahweh
Mason Torres
Having a single singular leader making the choices you must follow is the definition of totalitarian.
Nathan Reyes
Well from what I've been told on pol and as far as I have read of the church fathers they actually endorse both at once. The best verses for atonement/god's wrath satisfied is in Leviticus, but also in Hebrews.
Hebrews: >There is no forgiveness of sins wtithout shedding blood.
Romans >Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Wyatt Ortiz
Oh yeah that happens a lot in Lisbon, they usually target the tourist looking people.
Henry Collins
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Easton Powell
>CATHOLIC >using the picture of a statue from orthodox Kiev, Ukraine
Juan Hughes
Old catholic art are so impressing . I had visit Florence one day it is really amazing
Hunter Sanchez
Jewsus christ Hated by Jews Helped destroy the Roman Empire Christianity teaches weakness to whites True whites worship white gods, Odin, Thor, Zeus
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Thomas Hughes
What do you guys think of the pope?
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Matthew Cruz
You Forgetting a certain White Catholic nation. That killed pagans. So you chose who exactly? Pagan Aztecs or white catholics? Don't get me wrong Aztecs had a pretty cool civilization desu.
Logan Edwards
>So Jesus was telling us to use public shaming as a weapon
Sounds much like what SJW's are doing by calling you a racist and w/e
Sebastian Nguyen
What is this statue? It's amazing.
Lucas Hall
There's Catholic Cossacks as well as Catholics w/ Byzantine Rites.
Robert Green
No it's called being a jew. Pol uses public shame as a weapon too and far more effectlively than (((Them))). To defeat the jew you must become the jew.
Unloading christwave, enjoy.
Matthew Nguyen
Thing with penal substituion is that it focusses solely on God's justic, & not his mercy. Christ gives his life freely; the act of the divine Second Person of the Trinity giving up his life for us provides a superabundance of merit; God sees this act of love, and it is greater than any 'debt'.
It's not a case of God saying 'well humainty owes this many sins, so Jesus, you'll need to take this much punishment'.
And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him. And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves. And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead. And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean.
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Hunter Jackson
Yeah Florence is amazing
Liam Thomas
One speaks of the 'profound injustice' of society; as if the fact that this man is born in favorable circumstances, that one in unfavorable ones, were in itself an injustice; or even that it is unjust that this man should be born with these qualities, that one with those. Among the most honest of these opponents of society, it is asserted: "We ourselves, with all our bad, sick, criminal qualities, which we admit to, are only the inescapable consequences of a long suppression of the weak by the strong." They make the ruling classes responsible for their characters. And they threaten, THEY RAGE, they curse; they become ...virtuous, from indignation. They do not WANT to have become bad men—canaille—for nothing! Here, the claim is made to judge history, to divest it of its fatality, to discover responsibility behind it, GUILTY MEN IN IT. For this is the rub: one needs guilty men. The underprivileged, the decadents of all kinds are in revolt on account of THEMSELVES and need victims so as not to quench their thirst for destruction by destroying themselves (which would perhaps be reasonable). To this end, they need an appearance of 'justice', i.e., a theory through which they can shift the responsibility for their existence, for their being thus and thus, on to some sort of scapegoat. "It is a crime to be born in favorable circumstances, for thus one has disinherited the others, pushed them aside, condemned them to vice, even to work. How can I help it that I am wretched! BUT, SOMEONE MUST BE RESPONSIBLE, otherwise it would be unbearable!" That such a theory is no longer rightly understood—that is to say despised—is a consequence of the bit of Christianity that we all still have in our blood, so we are tolerant toward things merely because they smell somewhat Christian from a distance. The socialists appeal to the Christian instincts; that is their most subtle piece of shrewdness.
Brandon Wood
The commie Vatican is anti-American.
The church is pedogate ring. Probably pizza related.
His name was Seth Rich.
And sage
Thomas Williams
Christianity has accustomed us to the superstitious concept of the 'soul', the 'immortal soul', soul-monads that really are at home somewhere else and have only by chance fallen, as it were, into this or that condition, into the 'earthly' and become 'flesh', but their essence is not held to be affected, to say nothing of being conditioned, by all this. Social, family, historical circumstances are for the soul only incidental, perhaps embarrassments; in any event, it is not produced by them. With this idea, the individual is made transcendent; as a result, he can attribute a senseless importance to himself. The concept of the 'equality of souls before God'—this concept furnishes the prototype of all theories of equal rights. Mankind was first taught to stammer the proposition of equality in a religious context, and only later was it made into a morality. No wonder that man ended up taking it seriously, taking it practically!—that is to say, politically. -- Friedrich Nietzsche, The Will to Power
Jaxon Baker
His name was Seth Rich His name was Seth Rich His name was Seth Rich
Andrew King
Be angry and do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger.
And he(jesus) looked around at them with anger, grieved at their hardness of heart, and said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” He stretched it out, and his hand was restored.
Asher Bailey
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
Cooper Edwards
Pro American is pro-freemasonry, pro Jewry, pro usury.
>Seth Rich Shilling for a communist Jew
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Nathaniel Stewart
I am from Britannia My Celtic people have lived here for thousands of years My family never downgraded to dirty Christianity Jew religion Pure pagans in my family Christianity was the Jews greatest trick against the goyim
Brayden Myers
King James Only Independent Baptist is the true way. Look up based Pastor Anderson
Wyatt Brooks
Do you believe that Cuchullain had 7 irises and can turn into a giant dog?
Justin Hughes
Sex without marriage is degenerate, get over it. You're living in sin user.
Sometimes I question whether I should raise my children with the institution of the church/Vatican as a part of their lives and instead just help them to learn to live like Christ. South Park was right, we need an American Catholic Church.
Lucas Ortiz
You've never had ancestors who were Christian? So that makes you what, over a thousand years old? Too old to be on mongolian anime boards
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Henry Morgan
>Catholics are literally doing and believing everything what the pope says
Also you realize you stupid you sound when you say that the Vatican is anti American, right? Just because there's a puppet in the Vatican who obviously dislikes trump doesn't mean the entire church is anti American
David Young
Druids are insane.
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Jonathan Williams
> Any form of authority is totalitarian
Anarchist trait
Luis Hernandez
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Kayden Carter
Thank you for the answers. It seems that many modern Christians are more lax in regards to this subject, accepting multiple theories to be true. It seems that Orthodoxy is a great deal more stingy with this, always weary of the Latins. I find that it is probably more important to understand the necessity of the Passion, than to understand it's mechanisms; it is sufficient to believe in it, and to understand that one is saved by it, and only it.
I will check out the link as soon as I may.
Jose Lee
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Sebastian Lopez
SSPX, FSSP, ICKSP, or an anglican ordinariate if you want traditional catholicism. SSPX if you are radical traditionalist and completely reject Vatican II.
A reminder to non-catholics, we don't like this pope. He doesn't represent us traditional catholics.
Michael Rodriguez
General question to all: What's wrong with Lutheranism? Dogmatically, ethically, practically etc
Jack Howard
1. Deny traditions 2. Deny the Papacy 3. Deny purgatory 4. Leaving out Scripture 5. Deny free will
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Jackson Reyes
>/cg/ I am Catholic but what if all this Grey Pope/Black Pope stuff turns out to be true? What if there is no God? What if the Muslims are right? What if we're all already dead? What ifs are not something to base your choices off of, but what facts and reason indicate to be true. >Sometimes I question whether I should raise my children with the institution of the church/Vatican as a part of their lives and instead just help them to learn to live like Christ. You should, Franic will be dead soon anyway. Don't base your choices off of something temporary like the pope. That's like leaving America because of the presidential election. >South Park was right, we need an American Catholic Church. No it wasn't, that's how you get Protestantism. And that's how you get lesbian bishops who tell you to make way for muslims or that paul was a member of the patriarchy. Do you want that?
The Church's truth is eternal, any singular pope is not.
Mason Sullivan
Besides being sola etc. The removal of 5 sacraments
Which is why now the Lutheran Church is performing gay marriages since it's not a sacrament thus do not need to be scripturally sound.
Ethan Jenkins
From where did Luther gain his authority to speak on theological matters?
Because he was a priest? A priest ordained & trained in a Church which he says has the anti-Christ (Pope) as its leader?
Because he had read the Bible? A book collated by successive councils called by, you guessed it, the person he said is the anti-Christ?
Joshua Roberts
easy to see why traits like this take shape when every authority/leader in history has been a corrupt self serving asshole
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Jason Wilson
Martin Luther said Jesus sinned. He's an absolute heretic and should have been burned at the stake imo.
Cooper Ortiz
Someone give me some reading that provides the historical context on the transition from the Church in acts to today's Catholic Church
Jaxon Richardson
This he also supported the Turkroaches
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Luis Nelson
Have you prayed yet today /cg/?
Chase Robinson
Tfw he did it for u
Jace Reyes
What are your thoughts on Silence (2016)? I thought it was a pretty confronting film about persecution of Christians.
Also kind of wishing for death but feel bad about looking at it so indifferently. I long to be in the next world friends.
Hunter Morgan
How do I avoid the sin of despair? I feel so unworthy.
Tyler Clark
Plenty of secret Celtic groups have remained hidden The Christian Jew worshippers persecuted us true whites Being an atheist is preferable to bowing down to a dirty Jew Jewsus Christ was crucified for a reason