Hey Sup Forums.
Wanting your opinion on something. I've always been a christian, believing that God did in fact create the universe. While I do believe this, I'm a firm believer the bible isn't 100% accurate, where it has been skewed and twisted over time. What if the timeline is stretched out over a much longer period than we know it as it is in the bible? What if seven days of creation was much longer than seven days?
Could god have created the big bang, and this been his seven days?
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The big bang is more likely to be some sort of whitehole if it even is what happened. They say that the laws of physics as we know if break down going that far back so who knows. That said it doesn't imply your idea of god is correct. That's what they call a "god of the gaps" fallacy, filling in the unexplained gaps in knowledge with "god did it".
Think about this for a minute: Blackholes suck in matter and energy and eventually collapse but they don't collapse immediately because they also dilate time more the larger they are. However when they do collapse whatever happens to all of the matter and energy they sucked in all happens instantly because time is at a stand still inside of the black hole. So all of the matter and energy sucked in over the "lifetime" of the black hole (to an outside observer" would all be in the exact same place and time for one instant on the inside of it. That would be pretty explosive wouldn't it?
>Could god have created the big bang, and this been his seven days?
some christian physicist played around with relativity to try and make it so that it worked out that way.
i personally don't see why it couldn't be the case.
its literally in the bible scoffer , the flood happend god created everything with his word
>3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Read the bible.
Logic is foolishness faith is truth.
God designed our logic to be flawed. Of course it's logically flawed.
1st Corinthians 1/2
>Physics PhD Cand here
>also christian
I spent the majority of my life as an agnostic/atheist. My current belief is very similar to yours, so don't feel left out. What I've had to keep telling myself is that I realize that man is fundamentally flawed, and if you give man a reason to influence his interests, he will. You have to understand that you cannot know everything, even if your personal intention is to understand everything in smaller and smaller principles. You can't teach a dog physics, just like we can't understand the original nature of human kind. Our brains just aren't wired for it.
In conjunction, you can't take the bible too literally either. The Holy Bible IS the word of God, but was scribed by man, which is flawed. It is unquestionable throughout history that religion has been purposefully used as a vehicle for popular manipulation. This is non-negotiable. After all, the pillars of christianity are very fruitful for a civil society. Because of this tarnishment, you simply must take everything in the Bible with some level of skepticism. So you are probably right in that regard.
Nonetheless, the Bible is still the word of God. Though it has been skewed far, far too many times, and in different dialects, it is up to use to decipher the original intent and meaning of it. I still believe much of the Bible is still original. Which parts are what is currently up for speculation.
of course not you fucking fag. If you don't believe in the Bible and what it preaches then stop saying youre a christian because you fucking aren't
seeThat's actually a pretty relevant verse.
you're taking everything way too literally. if there is an almighty and omnipotent god, why would it take him seven days to enact creation? does he have a speed limit or something?
the creation story as it is described is metaphorical. don't dwell on the specifics. focus on your relationship with god, and your place within his universe. learn the spiritual and moral lessons of the bible, if that's your thing, don't waste your time trying to ascribe literal meaning to a text that has been retold and revised and retranslated countless times for over a thousand years. it's a pointless task.
also, the whole "science vs religion" thing is a crock of bullshit concocted by corrupt religious leaders who want to keep you stupid and docile. our universe is governed by rules of physics. therefore, the creator of our universe must be the one who wrote those rules. the two don't have to be discrete.
as far as the big bang goes, our knowledge of it is pretty limited. it's theorized that our universe was much 'smaller' initially, perhaps a minute singularity, that immediately began to expand inwardly and outwardly at a rapid rate. this expansion led to cooling (over eons), which eventually allowed for the coalescence of the raw energy into subatomic units. from there came hydrogen atoms, and eventually these vast hydrogen clouds began to coalesce into the earliest stars.
within these cosmic furnaces were produced the heavier elements, with larger stars being capable of producing correspondingly heavier elements. supernovae of these stars scattered the building blocks of planets, and since then the vast chemical reaction that is the universe has continued to unfold.
the amount of influence god has had in this process is ultimately up to you. nobody can really tell you what to believe. but don't live in denial of god's work just because some book told written by some humans told you to.