Sup Forums should not blame itself for electing Trump -

Yes, he has been cucked by forces behind the scenes. Now just imagine what Hillary would have already done. Islam would have been the state religion by now.

Good point

What's this bullshit about the arms deal with Saudi Arabia?
Of course we should sell weapons to Saudi Arabia. Also to Iran. As much as they can afford.
When did this pacifist cuckoldry take a hold on this board?

Donald Trump is a bumbling idiot who can't get anything done because he doesn't understand politics which is honestly better than Hillary who's a bumbling idiot who does.

At least Trump is making his intentions very obvious and they're just getting shot down for being stupid as opposed to Hillary doing shady shit and getting it done without people ever noticing.

I'll take the idiot who accidentally starts small wars over the idiot who intentionally starts WW3

If you voted for Trump, you're a naive fucking idiot. All parties are in it for money and personal gain and if you genuinely expected a billionaire to care about the "plight" of the working man, then you deserve to squirm as you watch your little orange monkey keep dropping his peanuts.

And yes, my countries politicians are just as retarded.

>all this trump backlash
The irony is delicious

trump dun goofed, first syria now this. so far 4/10 president, honestly.

Sup Forums has supported Romney in 2012.
Everything eve slightly right the center is a win.

>idiot who cant understand politics is better than idiot who does
really made me think

Not really, seeing as the center is now so far left it a few inches off of full blown communism. Sorta like 1 step forward, 2 steps back.

>gays
>porn
>abortion

is the right even right anymore?

According to Trump, the phrase "America First" means making the biggest arms deal in U.S. history with the primary exporters of global terrorism, including 9/11 and ISIS.

Do you think he swallowed after sucking the Grand Mufti's dick?

>Muh Hillary

I'm so tired of this excuse. You do realize there were other candidates right?

Germany YES?

Honestly, it seems like every week I'm asking myself--what did he do this time!? Boy, we really got this one wrong guys.

nobody cares what you're tired of retard

^this in plain sight and in clear reflection.
O'well.. the option was at least given.

t. shartblue

hello shariablue

Trump is the best ever.
Obama worst.

I enjoy every day Trump is president.

Democrats are scumbags who should be exported.

You guys along with never trumpers fail to see things from a practical point of view. Donald trump is barely an ideologue, he will do whatever is best at the time, whatever will get the best possible long term outcome, with sharp intelligence, quick wits, good instincts. He's a good person, who actually wants to drain the swamp. Who gives a fuck about 1488 or if he goes easy on Muslims (that's a good thing anyway) peace is good, peace through strength, it's like you fags only voted for him to just shit on liberals. News flash, trump's policies are fairly liberal

>Trump is the best ever.
>Obama worst.
>I enjoy every day Trump is president.
>Democrats are scumbags who should be exported.

Well peace by arming the richest supporter of ISIS seems...well.

He won't do shit. He's a dog on his son-in-law's leash.

The kingdom of Saudi Arabia does not fund Isis. I am against the arms deal, but it does have pragmatic value for us

BS. Trump is his own man. What makes you think trump didn't say "find me a better arms deal for Saudi Arabia"

>Donald trump is barely an ideologue
Nigga he won BECAUSE he was a populist ideologue. Do you think he would have won if he went around saying "maybe we will nuke ISIS maybe we will welcome muslim refugees, who knows?" or "America first, death to globalism but maybe we should also act like the world's police and be globalists?".

>he center is now so far left it a few inches off of full blown communism
Absolutely fucking insanely absurd. What the everloving FUCK are you talking about? The US political spectrum is WAY to the right. Obama is center-right wing any other place than the USA.

The tiny little irrelevant social issues like whether two dudes can marry are of very little consequence in the long term. The heavy hitting policies lean very much right wing, regardless of whether you're a D or an R.

But what can you expect when your politicians are sold to the highest bidder? Of course policies will start catering to the rich.

Arms sales have always been the primary function of the US government. Everything we do is an advertisement.

> he will do whatever is best at the time, whatever will get the best possible long term outcome, with sharp intelligence, quick wits, good instincts.
Nothing whatsoever makes me trust this. The man can't even speak. He can't form a coherent sentence. You think he'll act with "wit" and "sharp intelligence"?
He can't answer a straight question. Whenever you try to find out what this brilliant, long-term plan of his is, he flies off the handle and starts talking about totally unrelated stuff. I'm genuinely flabbergasted at how poorly he's able to express himself.
It's not "plain talk" either, by the way. It's just very nearly gibberish.

Trump countless times throughout the campaign said he'd deal with things as they come. Populism isn't an "ideology", it is whatever the population wants at the time. Trump's ideology is America first, and in his speech, said "Saudi Arabia, you deal with radical terror, not the United States" and then gained a profit to lower the national debt. Do I agree with the arms deal? No but it is still America first

Country has been going further and further left since FDR, then further and further left since LBJ, then further and further left since Bill Clinton and wayy left with Obama culminating in 50% of the United States supporting a self described socialist communist sympathizer.

I'd say the US is left of center. Even our "right wing" politicians favor government intervention in almost everything. U.s has become a semi socialist state. Literal national socialism

There is literally nothing wrong with selling arms to Saudi Arabia

Ive been lurking this forum for a while and can tell POL really doesnt understand how the politics of KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA work. Iranian weapons are used 90% of the time against coalition troops in sand nigger battles. Every soldier I know that has seen combat has confirmed Iranian weaponary was used against them and if the jihadist were saudi they were trained by al qaeda operatives that were trained and funded by revolutionary guard. The Caliphate is an off shoot of al qaeda but not friends or allies in anyway Saudi Arabia are at war with them.

>The kingdom of Saudi Arabia does not fund Isis
How can one man be so ignorant of what is going on in his own country? The Wikileaks Podesta email leaks literally confirmed that ISIS has received funding from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, which is something they have been accused of by individuals as early as 2014.

Yeah he's 70 years old with 4 billion in the bank. That doesn't come from being dumb

Hillary wouldn't demolish the US healthcare system even further and threaten to take millions out of health insurance

Hillary wouldn't hire Garry Cohn (the president of goldman sachs) to be the director of the national economic council

Hillary wouldn't remove net-neutrality like what trump is doing right now

Hillary wouldn't remove internet privacy protections (every single democrat in the senate voted against this, every single republican voted in FAVOR of removing internet privacy protections)

Hillary wouldn't cut the EPA by 30%, cut government programs to help homeless people, cut "meals on wheels" to help old poor people have food, cut the labor department and cut the education department while increasing funds for the defense department (aka more intervention in the middle east, yay!)

Hillary wouldn't put Betsy Devos, a christian fundamentalist school privatizer, as the secretary of education

Hillary wouldn't try to to crack down even harder on marijuana like what Jeff Session is doing right now

Not the Saudi government though

The weapon deal trump made with saudi arabia is literally TRIPLE the deal Hillary made with them

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Trump was necessary for the Supreme Court if nothing else. That is what will affect the US down the line. Getting one or possibly two conservatives on the Court is imperative to ensuring that we retain our freedoms.

That's because Hillary is a trendy bullshitter left wing/right wing flip flopper who needs a man to call the real shots.

Hillary would not be as bad. She world have been a continuation of Obama's policies. Trump took crony capitalism and kikery to an entirely new level.

Fuck that, if he fans the flames over there by selling guns he can justify dropping more bombs on them. It's not like we need the guns, he could just chip them and sell them then home some missiles in on their tracking chips once they get spread around to enemy military locations.

When's the last time we profited from a military operation?

This. I voted for trump for three reasons ONLY.

1. Drain the fuckin swamp please, no more shit politicians, time for real people in government
2. At least one possibly multiple Pro-constitution conservative Supreme Court picks
3. Bring our economy back to the right.

Hillary was a literal crony capitalist. Learn what that is before you talk nonsense

Posting in a shareblue thread

You fucking shill are you even aware of the form of government SA even has? You are talking about various individuals and factions all within the royal family of Al Saud that hold copulus amounts of power and money. Even if a single one of them decide to fund ISIS you are talking about half their expenses right there and there and ALL of this without even taking into account the rising public pro-ISIS sentiment.

Fucking members of the state Ulema have gone public with their support and you are standing here sprouting your uninformed opinion.

>appointing the PRESIDENT of Goldman Sachs to National Economic Council director
>appointing the CEO of Exxon-Mobil to Secretary of State
>appointing George Soros' fund manager to Secretary of the Treasury

You're a fucking retard dude. This level of blatant cronyism has never been seen before.

yea but hillary "lost" 250 bil as secretary of state

so without a deal and not as president 2.5 times the value of trumps deal vanished. negative cash flow...

You could have prevented this.

Just like the idiots who fall for obvious bait and then tell each other it's okay because Poe's law. It doesn't make a difference to me whether or not you elected him, but whether or not you had the foresight to understand that our current state of affairs would be how things would go.

There was an incredible amount of delusion in the election cycle. Fourth Reich my ass.

>3. Bring our economy back to the right.
>"I just REALLY want to have less money"

Radical Sunnis. Trump just sent a message to them either way.
They're rogue. That's like saying John McCain was giving Vietnam money and resources and you blaming the United States for funding Vietnam.

It's a fuckfest of Muslim ideology and a check on Iran who is also fighting against Israel and Saudi Arabia. Remember, Saudi Arabia and Israel are allied against Iran and the shia's.

Trump inherited a foreign policy mess is what this all boils down to. He also ran on being israel's strongest ally.

He's using their experience, he's not using their business to profit the government. They don't even work for those companies anymore.

get buck motherfucker get buck

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let's get ratchet

>thinks artificial inflation and higher taxes plus more welfare leads to richer individuals

>unironically phoneposting a screencap of an image
>a strip of Redpanels no less
Well maybe Trump isn't an idiot, but you're not doing much to dissuade the notion that his supporters sure are.

Europeans just like to pretend that America is some ultra-far right conservative traditionalist place when in reality we are more left than many European countries socially (with regards to Abortion and fag marriage) and further left economically than all of them in some regards, like our corporate tax rate which is so high that our companies move their HQs to Europe to avoid it.

But these Europeans still like to jerk themselves off over how much further left they are then us when in reality it's nothing but a stale meme.

>Well maybe Trump isn't an idiot, but you're not doing much to dissuade the notion that his supporters sure are.
but i heard on kikebuk dat if trizzump had just invested his ducats in the average S&P and nasdack dat dat nigga be much mo richa?

mane clearly daz pruf

I'm a lefty and i actually don't want Trump to be impeached. because Trump is so horrific that he actually completely kills the right wing.

From now on in every US election lefties will be able to point out how terrible Donald Trump was to scare people from right wingers.

I can already see the argument...
>The last two republican presidents were Bush and Trump, do you really want to elect a republican again?

Thank you Sup Forums

You should also remember (or be informed more likely), Saudi Arabia and Israel are allied against Syria and Assad. Even if you are so partisan you are unable to grasp to extent of SA aid to ISIS you can't deny both their and Israel's involvement with the Syrian rebels looking to overthrow Assad and turn Syria into a Sharia law, muslim shithole.

And we are just talking foreign policy not even about what a human rights violating shithole SA is to begin with, meaning that by dealing and giving them weapons you are legitimizing their backwards, Sharia infested practices of mutilating, human trafficking and suppression of free speech, all things I assumed America stood against. I assumed wrong it seems.

You the_Donald faggots are becoming a fucking caricature of yourselves.
If you were a genuine Trump supporter back in 2015, you would hate him now (unless you're a sycophant).

let the middle east destruct themselves I don't give a fuck

I've gotten so bombarded with "ur shareblue" type posts on here that I'm starting to think that anybody that criticizes Trump on here IS shareblue, even though I myself never supported Trump from the beginning.

Well akshualey I heard from a Redpanels strawman, (after I pledged to his patreon of course; also after he finished lifting his content straight from Sup Forums for pandering purposes) that those people are wrong.

>They actually think they're changing our opinion
We can see right through your bullshit.

hillary wil never be president, try running her again in 2020, we dare you

I'm not partisan. Look through the thread and read that I don't support the arms deal. Of course giving them weapons is super risky, BUT it has potential to work in our favor.

Saudi Arabia and Israel wanting to turn Syria into a sharia law Muslim shithole is going into conspiracy level territory. Why would Israel want another sharia law country right on top of them? They both want new leadership. Don't forget Saudis Arabia and Israel are still technically enemies. It's because of Iran, and assad's alliance with Iran.

Shameless liar.

4D CHESS YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!

MAGA
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>Saudi Arabia and Israel wanting to turn Syria into a sharia law Muslim shithole is going into conspiracy level territory.
Nigger do you even follow global news? Assad and Syria is LITERALLY the biggest opponent of Israel, he even said he will launch SCUD missiles the next times he finds evidence of Israel tampering with their internal affairs like supporting the rebels because to them the rebels and ISIS are useful idiots while SA wants Syria to stop being a secular state which can only be achieved by supporting ISIS and/or the rebels.

You are clearly uninformed and unwilling to be informed so I see little point to continuing this.

>Nigger do you even follow global news? Assad and Syria is LITERALLY the biggest opponent of Israel, he even said he will launch SCUD missiles the next times he finds evidence of Israel tampering with their internal affairs like supporting the rebels because to them the rebels and ISIS are useful idiots while SA wants Syria to stop being a secular state which can only be achieved by supporting ISIS and/or the rebels.

I seriously doubt SomethingAwful cares what Syria is doing bro, unless is funny "memes" for photoshop saturday, like "I can haz cheesburger" lol that cat is funny bro


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fuck you faggot ass nigger lololol

You're simplifying this whole situation. One reason I liked Obama is because he wanted peaceful foreign policy, but he was so fuckin incompetent at it, it led to bigger messes, and here we are.

Saudi Arabia is not against Assad because he is secular. That is a huge simplification. There are plenty of reasons why Saudi Arabia is against Assad. And him protecting Shia is just one of them.

>Saudi Arabia takes in trillions in oil income, stealing the wealth of Western nations
>America steals $109 billion from Saudi Arabia selling them surplus military shit the Arabs will never use because they're fucking incompetent

Even if you hate Trump, I don't see the problem here. That $109 billion is really going to be $112 billion after they get done hiring all the Western contractors to make their bullshit actually work.

And this deal is better than what Israel does for us, which is: Steal American tax dollars by lobbying Zionist/neocon members of Congress, and then hand them back to us for free shit.

>retain our freedoms
Which are? The GOP is the party that passes anti-constitutional laws like the Patriot Act not the Dems. You think the party that hates freedom is gonna put a judge that is for it?

What he meant is constitutionally conservative. Neil gorsuch seems he'd rule against the patriot act. From what I see

>be liberal
>hate guns
>hate Trump
>Trump sells tons of guns to foreign country
>less guns here in the US
>more money for the US
>be liberal
>get mad for some reason

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The was a primary you know. Could have had an intelligent conservative like rand paul or ted cruz.

>Yeah he's 70 years old with 4 billion in the bank. That doesn't come from being dumb
Can you honestly say he doesn't sound mildly mentally disabled? Tons of people earn money in their youth and then go crazy.

Trump's speech is borderline incomprehensible. It's not normal. I'm not claiming he's demented, but it's either something like that or he's just really, really uintelligent. Either way, it's not good.

>I'd say the US is left of center.
You'd be monumentally and laughably wrong. No serious political scientist will agree with you.

Do you even really know what "communism" means, or is it just a catch-all term for "wanting the government to do stuff that I don't agree with"?

More than that they got something like $350 billion for the deal. Another 200 billion is used to invest in american infrastructure. There is literally no downside to this since the money and jobs are strictly american and are used to kill muslims.

except that is exactly what is going on. All this money just goes to the military industrial complex, the #1 tax dollar sink in America. These people just use this money to get more lobbyist to increase their budget and take more tax dollars.

You are so blind to the system it's a fucking joke.

We were given a choice:

1)A guaranteed terrible choice, Hillary, who would've presided over the end of this country
2)A candidate with whom we could actually roll the dice (Trump)

Trump was never guaranteed to be a great president, he was just someone that had the potential to be (in spite of his many flaws).

>earn money in youth then go crazy

Trump has steadily increased his net worth over the years and is now one of the richest businessmen in the world. He's a straight talker who isn't great with language. Never seen that before?

Having escaped from Cuba, I think I know what communism is. I never mentioned communism though, weird that you mention it. I said Bernie sanders was a communist sympathizer. He actually likes Cuba just not their authoritarianism. Naive as fuck. He also honeymooned in the Soviet Union and visited lenin's tomb. That's pretty communist. If you don't believe the US has been more and more to the left since FDR, you gotta keep learning.