Hahahahaha, you retards are completely powerless to stop the march of progress.
Also: >Right after Trump got elected, the Quinnipiac University poll pegged support for building the wall at 42 percent. Since then it has dropped steadily, and is down to about 33 percent. (Sixty-four percent of respondents, meanwhile, were opposed.)
those polls were spot on though, the *surprise* results came from areas where there was no early voting or where the difference was too small to accurately predict.
PA, Michigan and Wisconsin (iirc) were won by a margin of 70.000 votes combined for all three states and FL was around 100.000 votes in favour of Trump.
Based on data present Hillary's victory was a shoe-in, Trump's victory was a result of relentless last minute campaigning.
If you were around for Brexit vote, you'd see that on the referendum's eve the polls started ever so slightly tilting towards LEAVE which happened in the end. Same with the recent French, Austrian, Dutch and German elections.
Connor Reed
The decline is primarily driven by Bernie supporters who feel the Democratic Party isn't left-wing enough, so it doesn't contradict the data in the OP.
Kayden Bailey
>liberal polls say drumpf is even more stumped than before
Caleb Perry
>99% chance of Clinton win >Polls were spot on >Trump is president
Hudson Richardson
right on cue a shill is here to tell us how accurate the presidential polls were! as if the media coverage of the presidential election never even happened.
Gavin Brooks
>2017 >polls sage
Charles Long
>polls were completely wrong >those polls were spot on though fucking retard
nah the clearly biased polling methodology wasn't biased
yeah it's much more likely that everyone's votes were swayed at the last possible second
Evan Baker
what is liberalism? socialism? Those wiley socialists are always wiggling into everything...
Jordan Johnson
>media phone call surveys
these are the same 900 people they called and said would vote for hillary
Carter Howard
>failing lefties being this desperate to change opinions
Henry Ortiz
You can add /worststate/ on there after the gubernatorial election
Evan Clark
that question is misleading. i'd be interested to see the answers if the question said "illegal immigration"
Chase Moore
>shill
He's saying the polls were correct in that Hillary would win the national popular vote
Connor Diaz
the media would never lie about something like this I always trust their polls I'm getting sleepy
Jayden Thompson
>WSJ >polls
Luke Anderson
You mean the polls showing Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote by 3% with a 2% margin of error, and then winning the popular vote by 2%?
:^)
Andrew Richardson
This is obvious. Anyone can see that Trump is breaking the GOP into factions and smearing them all through the mud. Trump has the left fired up and ready to fight. The anti-Trump backlash has spread to elections across Europe where conservatives can't win anymore. He was the worst possible candidate to elect at this point in history. The only wall he built was between conservatives and voters.
Lincoln Young
>liberals They're so desperate their now begging for attention to themselves
fucking laughing my ass off
Nicholas Miller
>Hillary has a 95% chance of winning >any poll having credibility again
Kek. Saging your shitty thread.
Parker Lopez
The manchildren on this site don't grasp the fact that a incompetent presidency can hurt an ideology more than it can help it.
You end up getting a shit load of disappointment well at the same time chasing middle of the road people to the other side.
Landon Nelson
Everyone calls each other retard here. You gotta try a bit harder to convert people than that.
Adrian Hill
fucking lol
Charles Wright
anti jewism is on the rise as well because people are sick of your shit. you'll get that 6 million eventually.
Jose Brooks
Except the polsters weren't accounting soley for the pop vote, as they knew the electoral college exists. They're models and selection of polling areas should have accounted for that otherwise they're retards. So either polsters were lying or incompetent. Either way they aren't to be trusted.
Jeremiah Smith
season your bread. let this one die.
Samuel Martin
>NBC telephone polls lol
Cooper Rogers
What kind of dumb ass thread is this, change the word to illegal and see how many people change their opinions. Stupid idiots can't tell a bias statistic to save their worthless lives.
Gabriel Ramirez
Hmm, we do have 6 million kikes here in the states. It would be pretty cool to help fulfill their prophecy they've been begging for (and pretending happened) all this time. We can even put up pic related
Cooper Myers
>source WSJ/NBC phone poll Lmfao
Angel Scott
Season Bread. Let this one die. >Season Bread. Let this one die. Season Bread. Let this one die. >Season Bread. Let this one die. Season Bread. Let this one die. >Season Bread. Let this one die.
Benjamin Perry
Yeah but they were still technically correct since she won the popular vote like they said
Benjamin Roberts
>900 adults >all of them living in Jew York
Not news worthy.
Tyler Perez
>conservatives can't win >leftists in France did so badly they had to settle for a centrist
Your post is the opposite of reality
Austin Carter
GOP control:
>US Presidency >US House >US Senate >Supreme Court >Majority of State legislatures >majority of state governors
Yeah you're really reared up and ready to show us a thing or two! Just you wait!
pathetic
Sebastian Gray
They didn't say she would win the pop vote. Not explicitly. They said she'd win the election. The polls were hilariously wrong. She also only won the pop vote because California voting population is almost exclusively Democrats.
Caleb Thompson
>look at bottom >compiled by WSJ/NBC >turned 360 degrees and walked away
Jaxson Clark
>if you defeat your political opponents, they win
Carson Ramirez
>Anyone can see that Trump is breaking the GOP into factions and smearing them all through the mud. The levels of projection in this post is staggering.
Hunter James
ha ha - no one wants liberalism or your left wing bullshit - scoreboard bitch.
Liam Martinez
That was from before the Trump collapse. Things have changed in last 120 days. 2018 will be a Democrat landslide and Repubs will lose everything.
Jacob Anderson
Yeah, that's why you got spanked in both of those special elections a few weeks ago even though democrats all over the country sent their paychecks to their respective candidates.
Robert Morgan
>Quinnipiac Trashed
Austin Wilson
They predicted that there was a 99% chance she'd win the white house. There was actually a 0% chance she'd win. Polls are inaccurate and biased towards whatever the media wants popular opinion to be.
Gavin Edwards
CNN's polls are showing a 98% chance of support for liberalism growing after Trump's presidency, surely a republican will never be elected again.
Jason Phillips
Popular vote doesn't determine who is in the congressional branch or not either :) so your polls are still shit
Kayden White
Are you a dumb dumb? The polls always said she would win the popular vote and from there they assumed she would win the election. Stop being a faggot.
Andrew Morgan
>That was from before the Trump collapse. What collapse?
>Things have changed in last 120 days. Changed for the better so far user.
>2018 will be a Democrat landslide and Repubs will lose everything. Please elaborate, so we can laugh before ideologically destroying you.
Brandon Brown
The polls were actually accurate, they were just retarded and tricked themselves with their own polls. The pollsters usually had their polling techniques and demographics public domain and they oversampled democrats substantially. If you normalized the values it was clear Trump was going to win the electoral college as early as October
Aaron Wood
Seriously. They're even more biased than the official democrat PPP poll.
James Reed
They also predicted she'd win the popular vote, which is what happened.
That's not what anyone is saying though you overly-defensive retard.
Christopher Gomez
Some dumb aggregator being retarded =/= individual polls being wrong.
Brexit and the US election were all within the MoE of polls. The French election was skewed... in Le Pen's favor
We're not trying to farther an ideology. We're a reaction TO an ideology. It conquered every college campus in the western world, maybe you've heard of it
Josiah Kelly
You guys must be retarded or something? The polls showed Hillary had a 3%-ish advantage in the final stages of the campaign. She ended up with 3%-ish advantage, though it didn't matter since the distribution of those votes was fucked up for her.
>what about 99% chance of victory
Every single relevant poll, and more importantly early voting, gave Trump and advantage in Florida which he eventually snatched comfortably. Polls and early voting showed Hillary's advantage in Nevada and W.Virginia (iirc) which she won comfortably.
Where polls and pundits couldn't help were the crucial Wisconsin, Michigan and PA where there was no early voting and telepolling was too close to call it. In the absence of data for those specific states these self-proclaimed experts had to forecast using other data available, mainly the nation-wide advantage Hillary had, to assume she'd pick off enough states to win it.
If you redditor cucks who migrated here for ebin memems were around for the elections, you'd remember that Trump had like 5 rallies a day in Florida and Rust-Belt states and while Hillary stopped campaigning on the eve of the elections Trump held rallies in airport hangars. Again the margin for three big states was a total of 70k votes, it's entirely possible that those last ditch efforts were crucial in Trump's victory.
So if you were a pundit on the eve of elections you'd had the following data in front of you:
>early voting data and polls from most states being congruent >Hillary has a massive advantage that translates to over 2m votes over Trump >Trump's only road to presidency after failing to shake up East Coast states and not winning in CO, VA, NM or NV was to take *traditionally blue* states which voted Democrat for the past 5-6 elections
I know your first instinct is to knee-jerk and spout muh shills (like it would matter now lel) but you do realize that Trump pulled a miraculous feat by eeking out advantage where it mattered
Asher Long
how does polling works
Jason Lewis
>being this retarded
Clearly they polled people in places where a single persons vote matters more. Like Wyoming or Iowa, y'know.
Jaxon Johnson
>intentionally leaving out the word "illegal"
James Hall
1post ID
Gabriel Jackson
>Links me to polling data Are you fucking retarded dude?
John Watson
Liberals aren't for liberalism. Take the time to look up what liberalism is.
Robert Harris
Lol "They got the part that matters wrong... Disastrously wrong, but they got a completely irrelevant part right, so polls are accurate xD"
Juan Ward
Sup Forums - STRAWPOLL DONT BE A LIBSHIT - IT TAKES TWO SECONDS!
Even in the 50s this would be embarrassing. 900 people? Wow what a great sample size to extrapolate for a population of 330 million
Also, nobody uses telephones anymore.
Parker Jones
...
Adrian Perry
>He thinks liberals are leftists
Carter Collins
>polls indicate trump has no chance of doing well in the primaries >trump does well in the primaries >polls indicate trump has no chance of winning delegates >trump wins delegates >polls indicate trump has no chance of winning the presidency >trump wins the presidency >polls claim support for liberalism growing >....
Color me skeptical, but I have a hard time trusting polls after this past election.
Isaiah Young
In the US, the two terms are used interchangeably
Nathan Jackson
Ok so they were incompetent because they didn't account for the electoral college (the actual election) in their polling. Either way they're irrelevant like I said.
I assume the polsters would be intelligent enough to account for the physical location of the people they're polling to determine the likely hood of the candidates winning that person's electoral vote.
I make this assumption because the last time the Democrats ran a candidate from inside the previous administration for a 3rd term win they got btfo by the EC while winning the pop. I can't believe someone who's job it is to account for all of this, wouldn't.
Camden Thompson
>mfw people butt in and reply to posts that weren't meant for them
Julian Ramirez
No I mean the ones saying she would win Pennsylvania Wisconsin and Michigan
Asher Anderson
Just because the neoliberals aren't as far to the right as the conservatives doesn't change the fact that they're both right-wing and that's the whole reason the economy has gone to shit. But keep thinking that going farther to the right will fix everything, I'm sure that wealth will start trickling down any day now
Oliver Watson
after trumps win, never trust polls again.
Jonathan Carter
>>polls indicate trump has no chance of doing well in the primaries >>trump does well in the primaries >>polls indicate trump has no chance of winning delegates >>trump wins delegates The exact opposite, you retard. Trump was always leading the GOP primary polls.
Evan Edwards
leftism is defined by SJWism not economics. just look at the working man's party in Trump for proof.
please continue believing the same polls that said Trump had a 0 percent chance to win :) I love people like you bb
Lincoln Campbell
Pollsters start with a conclusion and work backwards until their data set fits.
Brayden Lopez
this is akin to exclaiming support for consanguinous marriage among muzzies is on the up the sleeve
Noah Ramirez
Don't worry Bosnia. Sup Forums will never understand the reality of Trump's victory until it bites them on the ass. Until then we can enjoy more polls to be reasonably accurate.
Jayden Harris
according to you people, trump has been "collapsing" for over a year now
>b-but this time it's a really real collapse! Drumpf is finished this time! No, really!
Kevin Collins
>wealth will start trickling down any day now name one right wing economist that has claimed trickle down.
Just got a sample today and there's a ton of shitposting candidates.
Funny thing is that the demofaggot candidate is second to last on the ballot
Isaac Jones
For the final fucking time, that isn't a poll. Bosnian user is right.
Josiah Phillips
but you see that poll is actually very accurate because many reasons
Lincoln Green
>900 17-20 year olds >having opinions that matter or based on reality
Yeah you sure got us running shill. You are asking people who dont work about bringing in people who might work and you feel their opinions carry any weight?
Charles Morris
I think the gov's mansion is in or near Island Beach, isn't it?
Hudson Bailey
>leftism is defined by SJWism not economics. Do you even know what "left-wing" and "right-wing" mean in political terms? The terms came from the French revolution, the revolutionaries who wanted the working class to control society were the original left and the monarchists who wanted to keep society under control of a small ruling class were the original right. It has nothing to do with retarded identity politics bullshit, that's just a way for the rich to keep the working class fighting amongst eachother while they steal the country out from under you. When the conservatives are in power, the corporations win and the working class loses, and when the neoliberals are in power the corporations still win and the workers still lose, just slightly less. If you don't want to end up as soylent green for trust fund kiddies you need to look into the real left. >nypost.com/2016/12/09/trump-is-turning-the-gop-into-the-workers-party/ Kek, that was from before he got into office, you need only look at what he's done since then to see that he's just another Wall Street puppet
Jacob Morgan
There were polls in PA, WI, and MI and they were all wrong. Esp. WI.