What is the fucking point?

What is the fucking point?

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Stupid, uneducated retards are more likely to vote Republican

deny leftists as much government money as possible

not like this idiot can get any legislation passed anyway

What's the point of giving them so much? What break through did they make in 2016 to justify a larger budget?

If they aren't getting results they shouldn't get paid plain and simple

>don't believe leftist lies during election cycle
>start believing leftist lies after election cycle

Kill all newfags

Are you an expert on the matter?


And if we'll spend money, rather in science and medicine than on the military and foreign aid bullshit

Dude read the budget, this isn't a lie.

to worry me about job prospects after getting my PhD..
most people in research are not inherent leftists. Real researchers do not let their political agenda affect their research. especially in medicine/disease prevention. If a drug's properties cannot be reproduced it will very quickly be noticed, these fields are not as open to subjective interpretation like climate science.

>cuts to science
Nigger there's no such thing as one "Science", there are fields of study. He probably cut gender studies and climate change shit that has nothing to do with actually fixing climate change, like 2 million to research hermit crabs moving north or some bullshit.

He got NASA off their retarded attempts at pro-Islam propoganda and teaching "earth science" to schools (the school's job) and back on track of going to Jupiter's moons. There budget was not reduced, their mission was fixed.

Trump is pro-"science". The scientific endeavors that matter and make a real change.

Except most people in research positions are liberal. In fact, the more education you receive, the more likely you are to vote liberal. PhDs are 80% liberal

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now you trully be the 3rd world.

"giving them so much". if you worked in research you would realize how much failure there is in order to produce success. drugs are expensive, animal care is expensive, labor is expensive. demanding a "breakthrough" for the money thrown at research only encourages false result reporting. It sucks but in order to fund research you have to be willing to incur a lot of sunk costs.

No, he's cutting the American Cancer institute, and the American Heart and Lung Association. Can you read or no?

That's right. You need to be a REAL MAN and work in a manufacturing plant all your life while chewing tobacco

Last I checked throwing money at cancer doesn't cure it.

They've had a big enough budget for the last 10 years they needed to get cut long ago. What they are doing obviously isn't working. All these dollars spent on them and they have nothing to show. Not a single strain of cancer has been effectively cured without invasive procedures.

yes because the very nature of "discovering new knowledge" is a liberal mentality. Science wouldnt progress with a conservative attitude. But to say researchers, especially in the medical and disease prevention fields, produce the results they produce BECAUSE of their liberal thinking is completely false. In climate science, yes that's absolutely true though

>cutting bloat
>a bad thing

Obvious propaganda. The bill reduces government spending. Government has no business with private research.

Kill yourself newfag. Relativism is a lie thy poisons the mind. Leftist media thrives on spinning ANYTHING as being BAD TRUMP or GOOD GOY.

Trump gave millions to starving kids? Trump gave millions to kids while he kept billions.

Trump told someone he loves them?
Trump sexually harasses someone.

Trump tells the world he's cutting bloated federal spending and overhead?
The sciences are now being defended by Trump.

Sure, TECHNICALLY those statements are true, but PRACTICALLY they have no relevance to the real world and their contexts completely negate the meaning derived from such a thing without context.

You're an idiot

Ah yes, two separate funds spending millions upon millions of taxpayer money to cure nothing. Bio-pharmaceutical companies create cancer cures while these "organizations" launder money to super PACs.

*defunded

Medicine and research is a process. You make progress towards the next thing through many failures, you don't put your dollar in and get a working pill. That's why even private businesses pour cash into the same thing for years and after 8+ years they finally get something useful, that they then test for another 7 years to make sure it doesn't turn you into some sort of monster.

After 15 years and a billion dollars they put a label on it and it's sold. The first pill to come off the production line to be sold costs a billion dollars, but each one following it costs less than a dime, simply because of the research needed to make that first one.

> Not a single strain of cancer has been effectively cured without invasive procedures.
but throwing money at cancer has produced insane results. Herceptin lowered breast cancer deaths by an enormous percent. It's just very very hard to elucidate a drug which works on most/some cancer types, as cancers are insanely heterogenous in nature. You have no idea what you're talking about if you think the end goal of cancer research is to cure cancer without invasive procedures.

the weak should fear the strong

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lol is that why were seeing all these "studies show" to prop up obvious leftist bullshit like gender fluidity?

its getting as bad has the media's "sources say" crap.

The hope is that with less money they will prioritize the really important research, and all the bullshit fluff will go away

I am aware, but those are simply excuses. I don't care about your pitty party animals or how expensive it is. Some Results should have been obtained to some degree. The bottom line is we have other things we need to spend our taxes on, and this is simply a giant waste

Where is the Jew Post getting this info?

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Not an argument. These groups do nothing and claim to be the good guys. It's been the liberal dogma for decades.

chances are is that there's a whole lot of bloat in those fields that produce nothing tangible but skim enough from the government to get buy.

Blindly being pro "science" can be as damaging as being a free spirit crystal fucker.

Throwing money at defense contractors and the military hasn't ended terrorism. In fact, it keeps getting worse. Why is it okay for us to keep throwing even more money at it?

Maybe now private companies will stop plagiarizing university research and do it themselves

because there will always be certain fields of science which are used to "factually" prop up social issues when in fact they are not as factually concrete as they claim. There i no biochemist or biologist who would claim this gender fluidity bullshit, that's all psychologists, psychiatrists, behavioral experts, ect. Until there is a biochemical link to show gender fluidity, most people involved in real, repeatable science wouldnt comment on that shit.

there is no political agenda being played by trying to cure certain diseases/cancers. Trust me, researchers are just curious people who want to figure shit out when it comes down to it.

Burgers just keep getting wrecked lololol
Fucking relentless lolol

>post-industrial economies becoming ever more sophisticated
>biotech, high-level computing, rocketry, semiconductors, medical research, nanotech etc.
>require increasing numbers of highly educated citizens to keep them running

Let's cut the funding, lads.

My fucking sides.

This is fake news dipshits.

Partial truth is often as false as outright lies. The (((media))) has mastered this practice.

Don't believe a Jew ever.

>only the government does research

We don't throw money at the military to stop terrorism. We throw money at the military to stop other countries from thinking they can attack us.

>biotech, high-level computing, rocketry, semiconductors, medical research, nanotech etc.
Yeah, for total 2 million people in the world.

i know, it goes over most people's heads, but just realize that literally every bit of technology required "money to be thrown at it" in some way. The computer you're using, the pills you ingest on a daily basis, they are all the results of massive amounts of failure that took money. I do agree that there is a lot of bloat and waste but that's only to ensure some insane safety protocols which, if compromised, could potentially cause massive damage to the world.
You can cut funding to all this if you want, but then we will be at the mercy of the rest of the world's biotechnology, not our own, and have to pay for their research and development (through high prices) instead of our own

No it hasn't, but it has made us a superpower in the world. As well as keep our country safe. Developing weapons yields profit for our country. It is a more stable means of income then the guess work of medical science.

In the end its spending money to keep us in the global playing field is a good choice

should have gone to law school. you specialized in an irrelevant field for your own personal interest. if you wanted to be a scientist you should have moved to japan or germany first.

Federal funding of scientific research is unconstitutional.

>Washington Post
kys

Dude law is one of the most oversaturated fields at the moment. Science at least benefits society

nice rebuttal, nancy.

great post dude. 10/10. science rules.

>just throw more money at it
Liberalism is a mental illness.

im not in it for money, i dont need to worry about financial support. I did it for my own personal interest, im a curious fucker, and love biochemistry. After graduating im most likely moving to Singapore or southern France. Germany is awful for biotechnology, they have extreme fears of transgenics. But to say it's irrelevant is absolutely false, unappreciated sure, but not irrelevant.

i don't see any lawyers on Sup Forums complaining about not getting their government gibs dats.

In a peaceful time it would be one thing, but in today's world there are medicine corps doing the same thing. We need our taxes for infrastructure, education, protection from foreign threats, etc the list goes on.

At the end of the day it takes the back burner. Until the game changes this is the way things need to be.

whatever, or dont, and enjoy paying insane prices when china and other countries develop new technology. At least research labs dont artificially inflate their budgets as badly as the military does, where they will literally buy garbage to keep a budget. At least we just buy surplus chemical which can be used in later experiments.

>But to say researchers, especially in the medical and disease prevention fields, produce the results they produce BECAUSE of their liberal thinking is completely false

Good thing I didn't say that

>why dont we just sped and borrow infinite money, wtf

Oh noes
No more tranny research?
No more funding for sex changes?
No planned parenthood?

How will Bill Nye tell my kids about their sex junk?

Fucking word games.

But is Trump really doing that, or is the Washington Post running a deceitful headline? We have to find out.

>Are you an expert on the matter?

As if you are. Get fucked fag

t. slave
How about you try to make your brain work ?
16 years wars in the middle east that you all paid for that by far exceed EVERY AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU COULD THINK OF.
Because of that you now activated the globalist plan of world wide mass immigrations of African regions and the Middle East. And now with some master mental gymnastic move you able to make yourself believe it somewhat of a success.
Wake up fucktard.

Exactly this. The science community is so bloated, nothing but throngs of gooey, pseudo-intellectual spergs ooze out of the arteries. Science journal peer reviews are a fucking joke these days, sometimes taking a decade to get something published.

>or is the Washington Post running a deceitful headline?

Of course they are, it's WaPo

private companies do research, you could work for one. don't expect the american public to care though about your passion project.

But were these breakthroughs the result of govt or private funding?

>Trump defunds medical funding

There's no other way to spin this, though. Trump is just a bad person who doesn't want a healthy nation.

T. Tinfoil


When you make 7 figures come talk to me again

Yeah let's just keep increasing spending on everything forever that couldn't possibly go wrong.

Why don't we just print trillions and pay for EVERYTHING up front?

Want to study something? Here's a million bucks from the taxpayer, don't worry about securing funding and being profitable.

what's your problem then. You just dont like people being liberal at all? It inherently flaws their data if they dont believe the same thing as you? You complained that people in research are liberal so that must influence their results, im telling you they dont, especially in medicine/disease because that shit isnt subjective at all. personal opinion wont stop a drug from working or not

You mean its unpatriotic to get the govt to pay for Bradley Mannings hormone treatments?

The only problem is the cuts don't go far enough.

Holy shit the jews were right
you are literally dumb cattle you peice of shit

Yea and what happens when private companies do research? their results are automatically subjected to a bias, leading to consumer distrust.
frankly the american public has no idea what should be focused on from a medical standpoint.

>billions of dollars squandered by liberals sucking up grants to research niggeraids, or pocketing 90% of the funds given for "breast cancer (((research)))."
>zero accomplishments for decades

>cut most funding from the government teat
>private industry steps in
>companies that have to deal with actual budgets and not endless waste know how to get shit done
>in just a few years we've got reusable rockets capable of falling out of LEO and touching down on a ship bobbing in the ocean

Except when that same research aids in the construction of better infrastructure and medicine for combat medics.

I can see the reason why we should cut gibs and shit like it. But unless we are cutting useless research on something that isn't productive to research on there should be no real reason to not fund research. Innovation is what makes a country great, among other things.

The fucking point is that less than half of biomedical and psychiatric experiments replicate, especially the ones in high impact factor journals, because modern scientists are shameless whores that don't give a shit about the truth, only getting tenure and backstabbing their rivals for grant shekels. Think about it. You could learn just as much about the world by writing research hypotheses down and asking a magic 8 ball for the answer. Now, you might say there is useful information in the paper beyond the "is p

>John Hopkins and the Dr. Who pioneered sex change operation condemn the procedure and say it doesn't help the patients.

How can people suggest sex change in children but ignore the above? This is what that person meant about liberals.

privitization of everything only (((google))) and (((23andme))) should use all the data they've been collecting. etc.

Trump also has no concept of public goods

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Cancer treatment

No, it's unpatriotic to not realize that you're a mentally ill T R U M P F A G that needs help from those researchers

america making itself less of a world leader?
good

Imagine being this assured of your narrative. You do the reverse of the MSM. While they say literally everything Trump does is bad, you say literally everything Trump does is good. You're both cancer, kill yourselves.

>don't believe a Jew ever
>believes Trump

And being leaders in industry and science and technology somehow prevents us from being on the global playing field? How?

The problem really lies with government contracts. Government Research spending reports are always slimey when it comes to frivolous spending. If you're looking at blaming someone blame your colleagues.

The same is true for other areas as well but at the end of the day other fields have something to physically show. While medicine can have literally nothing but failures to show.
You shouldn't expect a raise if there is noting to show you deserving one.

>doesn't cut military spending
>complains about the debt
Lol

When the dude with the bigger stick says he's gonna only pay table scraps for it or he's gonna pound you to dust and take it you do what he says.

Having a larger stick means we set the ground rules

In fact, he's increasing military spending

USA USA USA

If the price is right they will say anything.

You try to make such claims then I see shit like this

the world doesn't work like your potato-brained caveman fantasies. You can't just say you call the shots because you have the best helmet, especially when there's no objective best for somthing like that. You can't just go around threatening and beating up countries like some bully even though Trump probably wants to. If we take from other parts of ourself to build up our military our whole machine will suffer for it.
A big military won't get us shit. We can't tell Britain to give us medicine or we'll nuke them. That's just not how the world works and no offense but only a literal idiot or someone being willfully ignorant to all the factors at play could think otherwise.

yea but he's a joke.
>Dr McCarthy elaborates his astonishing hypothesis in an article on Macroevolution.net, a website he curates.

it's like this guy Douglas Axe, who uses science to prove god's existence. his only publications are in journals he himself created, with the motivation to prove god's existence.
most non idiotic people can spot those biased reports a mile away. and hopefully the people who make decisions actually read the research paper, as im about to go do with the one you linked, because holy kek.

read this rationalwiki.org/wiki/Eugene_M._McCarthy

I was going for a simple explaination
If one of the small countries in Africa or south America discovered the key to space or time travel and didn't have the means to defend itself I guarantee all super power countries worldwide would invade it to get their hands on that technology.

If you want to keep the goods you have or make you must have a means to protect them. Not everyone plays by your scouts honor rules.

It's as simple as thay