Why are people poor?

Seriously. Why are people poor? Sure, shit happens. But aren't most people poor because of bad decisions in life?

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People don't like doing shit that will only benefit them in the long term.
They'd rather be comfortably miserable forever than awfully miserable for a few years and then 100% comfy

>Pay 50% of your income or get beat
Sorry I choose to be a neet

Millennials don't know the value of hard work. This is why they aren't buying houses.

Former poorfag. Can confirm, partying took priority over paying bills in a timely manner.

Aside from the taxes we pay, most of the time it is from poor spending and saving habits.

* Inability to delay gratification
* Financial illiteracy
* Social pressure

I'm a millennial who bought a house, checkmate

Plenty of people get screwed by having shit parents or shit genes...

>But aren't most people poor because of bad decisions in life?

Most of them, yes.

Some people are also just too lazy to do what needs to be done to be above poverty level.

Others are just too fucking stupid.

But, almost everyone who is poor is a victim of their own choices rather than "the system", I've never met anyone who works hard with ambition who wasn't successful to some degree.

Poorfags, get your shit together and stop fucking up.

People spend poorly because due to welfare, they don't have a existential need to be thrifty. Even in expensive places like Alaska, foods such as carrots, potatoes, and bread ingredients are very cheap. Someone who wants to improve their life can easily learn how to make stew and bread for a low cost, but they choose to spend it on fast food or drugs.

C'mon, give the poor guy a break.

He was jus' sittin' on his front porch eatin' his McDonald's

poor decisions

Because there's a finite number of resources, resources exploited by the rich.

Vicious cycle. Poorfag parents give birth to kids and teach them fuck all. Kids grow up to be poorfags, and their kids will be poorfags too.

Poor is relative, there will always be "poor" because there will always be people who have more than others.

American poor in particular live the lifestyle of the wealthy in most other places
>most don't work
>spend their days consuming prepared food and professional entertainment
>morbidly obese
>climate control is considered a right
>most own cars
>most have decent or at least functional luxury items such as game systems, smartphones, etc.

...

They don't have financial education, they also work for the money and think this is real.

Housing market is fucked around me in shithole America... Kinda sucks cause I have the funds but don't wanna be in a shitty deal.

Becase we want to

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Eastern block?
Gommunism.
Western part of the world?
Idk

The only reason Americans are poor is because of a lack of budgeting skills. Minimum wage is enough if you cook your own food and refrain from having more than one child. At 18, I had an apartment and paid for my tuition out-of-pocket with only a minimum wage job. But I stayed single, didn't have any kids, and lived off beans, rice, and tuna. It was tough, but worth it when I graduated with zero student loan debt.

Basically, black people. They want it all without actually doing anything.

>I stayed single

Oh gee what willpower you have.
Or maybe cuz no girl wants to be seen with your broke ass.

>niggers are poor because they are genetically predisposed/inferior
>poor people are poor because they just don't work hard enough
10/10 logic right there

Your youth doesn't even work anyways.

Taxes and cost of living is just high. Some people just don't have good jobs. Other people just suck with money and are selfish with it. Some are just comfortable living how they're already living and see no use or have no motivation to live any higher than they do.

You would be surprised how many people my age work. It's crazy.
Like a month ago I met some friends of a friend, we were 8 people, only I didn't have a job. Akward.
For the record, 23 yo, they were +/-2

>But aren't most people poor because of bad decisions in life?
Wow. Sup Forums is pretty stupid.

>shit parents or shit genes

Here is your answer OP

If you don't have parents with a work ethic you won't grow up with a work ethic. If you have shit genes you will end up with mental illness.

Graduated at 21 and had a gf my senior year faggot. Better than becoming a debt slave like half the millennials my age. And most college students are broke.

Minimum wage is not enough in some places. It's $7.25 in KY. That's $1160 a month IF you are able to even work 40 hours a week. After taxes, it's just not enough to live off of. I don't know how people say minimum wage is livable, even when you're single. Rent, health insurance, food, gas/transportation, emergency expenses, etc, how do you make that work?

>Millennials don't know the value of hard work.

Sorry, but value of "hard work" has gone down to zero in the past few decades. You don't get rich through hard work. You get rich through a random stroke of luck, and more and more people are starting to realize it.

my parents have no work ethic because their parents had insane work ethic. Now i have good work ethic because my parents are depressing and pathetic. Its a cycle

Because class and social hierarchy.

Started at community college and transferred to in-state school. Tuition was extremely cheap. Apartment was only around $400. Had no health insurance though. Also, Natty Ice.

Smart work, not hard work.

depends
not a lot of upward mobility right now
if you're born poor you probably stay poor
some people do actually make dumbshit decisions of course

lol look this faggot
another egotist with a degree in cultural marxism
>SEIZE THE MEANS OF REPRODUCTION!

Kill yourself

Shit happens. A lot of shit. A few poor decisions may happen because we're talking about humans, but it's not all that simple.

"Hurr durr, faggot!!" You sound bitter. Sallie Mae fuck you in the ass too?

because of class struggle due to capitalism. duh

poor because if you dont have any money, you cant make any. Then they drive the prices up so the money you do manage to earn is devoted to goods and services. If you are allowed credit its enough to hang yourself. real tough glitching the matrix

You've never seen how the poorest live in the US. Some people literally live hand to mouth, have to skimp on climate control, and can't afford healthcare.

Most poor people are stupid and/or lazy.

Some, may be as the result of bad circumstances, but the vast majority of poor people that cant manage to make it by in the wealthiest society that the world has ever produced are just too dumb or too lazy to do so.

plenty of intelligent or hard working poor people make it out of their situation for me to believe that it is impossible to escape.

Capitalism doesn't work without most people being poor, so that's how it's set up.

If I'm going to die why should I spend my life accumulating money, possessions, or having children. I'll be dead and I don't care.

People are poor because they are lazy and afraid to be uncomfortable.

Nice self defeating nihilism. Why dont you just kill yourself and be done with it?

So you're not miserable in this life?

Depends on what you define as poor I suppose. Most of the people I know who I would classify as poor have terrible spending habits. The type of person who blows all their money, rent and food, 14 days into the month. They buy shit with money they don't have racking up debt.

I don't know anyone who started out poor, they didn't spring up from a hole in the ground, most of them have or had parents who also had poor spending habits and/or are white trash. Stupid and wasteful. If you go way the fuck back you could probably find some peasant or farmer legit oppressed by the government or some lord (stealing profit/too high taxes etc.) but in the last 50-100 years? Nah.

ITT we larp as 6 figure maker and trash talk the poor to feel a mediocre superiority feeling because your life itself is pure shit.

You know always blame the poor if you don't understand what's going on. It's a safe bet, an easy target.

People trash talking poor and using generalization and poor stereotype to blame poor for being poor and the faggot who are not brave enough to take on the source of the problem itself, the system. Bullying the weak because the strong make them afraid.

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You'd do well in an 1800's social Darwinism think-tank


(Take me with you)

Because what you consider "wealth" is an unnatural thing. The world is poverty. Without poor people there can be no wealthy people. In Feudal Europe, is it the peasants fault they were poor? No. There was genuinely no way they could not be poor.

And fuck you and your Jewish capitalism.

>"the system"

yeah, right. I mean, it would be strange if everyone had the same wealth. When they have so different priorities and skill levels.

The only thing niggers can complain about is diving below the threshold of cutoff. ie. they're so useless nobody even employs them. Not like their counterpart is employed in africa, though.

I don't understand how poor people can't manage their money.

My wife and I are both full time college students working part time, living in a very nice apartment outside of the city (more white people here, nicer area) and we are swimming in cash when we only bring in about 26k after taxes.

We own a new car, we going on weekend trips every month or so.

What are poor people doing with their money that makes them so disgusting?

Is there anyone who...
1) has good parents, guardians, or role models
2) graduates high school
3) gains more education through attending college or training
4) doesn't have kids out of wedlock
5) keeps themselves in decent physical condition
...and isn't doing well? Or if not a great success at least making it? Of course accidents happen. Injuries happen. Mistakes happen. But otherwise as long as you follow some basic guidelines you generally have no excuse to be poor.

more importantly why are you lying

Millions.

Fuck, being a model citizen with a physics degree doesn't even guarantee you a floor-scrubbing job these days. You don't understand how bad the market has become.

there is little room for promotion. most people in america die in the socioeconomic class they are born into. american government figures on the subject prove it

wealthy and upper middle class have more choices because they have enough money for real colleges not glorified trade schools like most states colleges are

do many miss the 1 in a million chance that few will ever get ? sure but who wants to keep buying lottery tickets when the bills are pilling up? most wont even pick the right combination for a win found in a 10 year span of time most likely. its like phone numbers. guess mark smiths phone number in newyork

Can you prove that I am?
Nope.

the poor HAVE to exist. You can't have a dollar store without some poor asian kids working for 10 cents a day. if every human on earth was getting paid 10 bucks an hour then we wouldn't be able to buy a fly swatter for 99 cents, they would cost 20 dollars at least. Inequality and exploitation is what drives humanity forward, not equality.

So basically your advice is just get the shittiest, cheapest version of everything

People are poor due to a lack of education in an applied field, lack of connections, and lack of capital (see: lack of connections). That lays the ground work. Then you add in a government that is at odds with the prosperity of its people and that implements quasi-socialist (keep breeding black people!) and bizarro-capitalist policies (lol monopolies are good! regulate competition out of existence!) that manage to bring out the worst in both systems while subduing the benefits of either and bankrupting itself in the process. Top that all off with a culture that has its priorities completely out of whack. Sprinkle in some mental illness. End result, a lot of fucking poor people.

this. FUCK the poor.

Well bad situations are part of it, the other is dumb choices. But then again the problem is compounded. I've never had any big money and I know guys who have.

For example, I went to college with some guys. A couple of them were younger, 19 and 20 while I was 24. Two guys who were 19 came from a rich part of the country and the two other guys who were 19 and 20 came from the same suburb I grew up in. One lived with his divorced mom and the other both his parents but both held shitty jobs. The guys from the richer part wore nice clothes, already had a drivers licence, car, motorcycle licence and spend times doing trips. They held a steady job. But when I inquired about allot of the shit they owned, they told me their parents payed for it, or they tried to hide it but it was obvious.

Now the other two friends of mine who lived in my part of town wore cheap nike clothes, mainstream budget wear from the H&M etc. They bought brand shit from an Asian web forgery site for bottom prices. They spend most of their time going out and drinking. While the rich guys went to dinners and took day trips. The guys from the rich part of town were physically and genetically pretty much identical. One was a manlet and a bit growth stunted, baby face etc. The other was pretty tall, looked mature with a full beard but otherwise had an ugly face and shit body. All of them had girlfriends.

And yet the differences in life choices were obvious. It was a fascinating study to watch them up close. The rich guys looked more healthy, the poor guys were more red pilled. The rich guys held a better status student job but generally didnt peform any better than the poor dudes. Whenever we were done and getting ready for the weekend the guys from the fancy neighborhood always had obligations and plans. Dinner dates, family gatherings, having to be home to open the door for the guys doing a kitchen remodel etc. While the suburb dudes lived in the moment, were tons of fun to hang with.

because the nature of wealth means that not everyone can be wealthy. If we all have money then none of us are wealthy, but if a lot of us have no money, then a few of us are wealthy.

wealthy people know this so they do everything they can to keep things the way they are, the system makes it possible for poor people to become wealthy through hard work, but that also is impossible for everyone to achieve.

nah nigga fuck you, violent mob putting wealthy heads on pikes when?
wealthy people need poor people so that wealthy people can exist.

Only idiot, lazy and unlucky people are poor. I hate poors.

If a billion african poor died tomorrow would you care?

This isn't a terrible question.
I make under 30k and i have 2 kids. Wife is currently out of work. She saves us money by using clothe diapers instead of disposable ones, and finding cheap ways to feed the family.
>we make it happen
We moved to Tennessee because of the low cost of living
>also mountains
And my job is slowly becoming more and more profitable every year. One day we will escape poverty, it's just going to take time.
Basically, poor people may be poor from bad choices, but they poor because of poor planning

true

So to summarize, if you get a leg up in life it's easy to start off as organized, long term thinking, money smart/saving. You reach certain life goals easy on the back of your parents and your children do so on your back. Developing a fashion sense, eating healthy, getting your drivers licence and car, holding a good job, getting a house. Generally relaxed. But the trade off comes in other areas.

If you're poor you are so pre-occupied with dealing with things which are in the moment that it becomes impossible to look in the future. You get the shit job because it pays quick and they took you. You wait with your drivers licence because you have to fix your bike when it breaks and you cant walk to work. You dont pay attention to dressing nice because there's no point if you can't afford it. Etc.

If there's one thing I learned though is (I work in the military) that whenever I need to get a high stress job done. I can always rely on the average Joe to perform. While the spoiled rich kid suffers from insecurities, confusion, lack of aggression, experience and so on. No conviction or social savy.

Being poor still sucks and I'd pick rich over poor any day. But it should be self made. Look at Trump, just a small loan of a million and he had to do everything himself. It makes a man. Giving a child everything it needs means it doesnt learn basic shit. You can be poor for 1/4th of your life and make it around your 30th year and you will be A-type captain america. While a jewish millionaire will still be scolded by his wife until his deathbed.

>born in some shithole ghetto
>shit genetics from lowlife scum
>substance abusing parents,
>good chance you came out retarded
>lucky if your daddy sticks around
>only go to ghetto shitter school where all you learn is petty crime and what gangs are recruiting
>you could get some minimum wage job but fuck that
>no skills, no talents, no knowledge of anything
>your entire environment is trying to drag you down and hates you for studying
>every single friend,family member, contact and reference point for you is also some ghetto dwelling poorfag
>why bother with anything, just get some ho, knock her up and live off welfare, trying to better yourself will just waste your time and money anyway
>HURR WHY DONT THEY GET A WORK ETHIC AND WORK 23 HOURS A DAY TO MOVE UP IN LIFE LMAOOOO POORFAGS ARE TEH STOOPIDS XDDD

Yeah, cause when someone is caught in an equilibrium trap and learned helplessness they will surely go aganist their entire socialization and life experience and get good jobs.

THEY KNOW
>SHUT
>IT
>DOWN

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