Creating a nation

How would one make a new nation in the modern day? Would it be possible without already having a nation's worth of resources?

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I'm trying to think of the m8 who started his own very recently, he even got the agreement signed by the queen. It's basically NatSoc/Anarchism. Give something to get something in return

You'd have to wipe out or secure a country in a week or less if you want to do it silently.

Ask the Swiss

Not the one I'm thinking of, but close

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there are some pretty small island nations

I'm thinking, we'd have to rally the entirety of pol to create a strong enough standing army to actually do anything, and after said acquirement of soldiers, we'd have to find a politically weak country to overthrow. After that, we'd have to delegate leaders and shit...

In all honesty, I don't see it happening unless literally every NatSoc in Europe decides they want to separate themselves from the cuckery and violently overthrow a government.

this is some pretty interesting shit, but i feel like croatia or serbia are going to get pissed soon

Look here
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and start researching the countries

What about an uninhabited island?

Actually, I just thought of something, why don't we just take Hawaii? It'd be realistically one of the easiest states to take, given the fact that a majority of the locals don't have guns and the American fleet is allocating resources elsewhere at the moment. It would be a prime time to attack, Pearl Harbor style.

That's what I was thinking too, but there aren't a whole lot out there.

Unless you now, you guys up for retaking the Japanese Empire in the Pacific. I'd be down for that, if you guys don't mind living in a really hot climate. Plus I feel like I'd be finishing the job my ancestors couldn't. Stupid fucking Tojo attacking America when the IJA was already stretched in China as it was...

Well as i brought up earlier, instead of a state or nation we could grab an uninhabited island... also America tends to be fond of hawaii

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Uninhabited_islands_by_country
Here, we can pick the one whose mother country has the smallest military and go from there

Oh I know, but I'm not. Considering a majority of the population is Filipino over there, I could care less how many people I'd have to mow down in order to establish our own government there. As long as the islands end up looking like pic-related demographically, I'd be up for fighting.

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That's probably a smarter idea honestly, I'll do some digging and tell you what I come up with. Honestly my first bet is like Makin Atoll and Wake Island, but I'm probably wrong. Whatever the case, looking now.

Before I go crazy on my quest though, is there any place we'd rather be closer to perhaps grab more territory later?

>why don't we just take Hawaii?
>It'd be realistically one of the easiest states to take
I know this is retarded larping, but come on. This is the dumbest comment ive seen all day. Hawaii is literally one of our most important military bases, its pretty much home of the pacific fleet. You would get blow out of the water before making it within a mile of the shore.

well the pacific has lots of other islands we could take later, but really anywhere to get ourselves on the map, then expand our reputation a bit

I'm missing the Tuvalu threads, we need them back. The war is not over yet.

This is assuming we attack by air, we are not stealthy with our infiltration, and we fight conventionally. I don't see how the Navy could be used in a land-war for Hawaii. Unless they wanna risk major civilian casualties, which I'm certain they wouldn't want to for obvious reasons, there's no way the Navy could effectively be put to use.

Granted if we were fighting conventionally I'd wholeheartedly agree with you.

For a couple of million dollars you could easily bribe the government of some Caribbean shithole into making you the de facto head of state

Oh damn, you know that's not a bad idea... I think even a small force could easily overthrow the island. Does any larger country actually openly back Tuvalu?

I don't think so

>Tuvalu has no regular military forces, and spends no money on the military
It also has a population of like 10000

Hawaii doesnt just have the navy you tard. You do know its pretty much the navys job to get the other branches of the military where they need to go, right? I thought it would be obvious to you that navy=boats+marines+special forces as well as other personnel.

Checked your trips, has to be true information.

In that case, we need to start organizing. First of all, how many of us are financially capable of flying to Tuvalu and shipping weapons over there?

Probably none of us, but seeing as they have very few ways of stopping us, I think we would just need a small army or, because Tuvalu is very religious, a pro- our regime religious leader to persuade the people

You really like using "retard" as an insult.. I know the Navy isn't the only branch of military in Hawaii. It'd be foolish to assume that. I'm just saying realistically, how many troops could the Army field in an island chain? I guess that's a question for my ancestors, but I digress. It just seems like it'd be absurdly difficult to fight a conventional war in Hawaii. It would be a lot of guerrilla warfare.

> blackwater

you mean little green r*ssian invaders

I have at least 4 men with the combat experience and financial means of getting to Tuvalu with weaponry. That being said, it would be nice just to have a standing army over there should the more pacifistic route of puppet leadership fails. They're christian right? Could not simply install a Christian God-Emperor? One whom we could use to convince the locals that his word is the mandate of heaven or something?

ethereum

napalm my boy

mandatory military service forsure

We could, but I have no idea how fond of that idea the locals would be if we were going the pacifist route. If we were to do an armed takeover I'd probably want 1 soldier for every 3 to 5 citizens, meaning we'd need 2,000 to 3,000 soldiers to take it by force

Hawaii is an ecological bastion of endangered and rare species, I think it would be rather short-sighted of the United States army to use Napalm in Hawaii. I honestly think they'd just try Vietnam-era stuff and just throw their boys into the jungle. Or heck, maybe even drones. Probably drones honestly...

Locals wouldn't like drones. Loooootttsss of pot farms on Hawaii

This is true. I wanna check the Japanese soldiers needed to occupy the island though and I'll go off of that for the force necessary. Japanese army was pretty sparing in the Pacific theater for a lot of these smaller islands. Whatever the case, I'm open to more suggestions for mobilization.

Why the HELL would you want to make your own state, and have the entire world trying to fuck you over?

What you really want, my child, is to be totally off the grid. That's when you can really live however you want,

How do you propose we do that, exactly?

Oh I know, Hawaii is my home-state. I just hate it. The degeneracy there is staggering. It's almost not worth taking unless you can mass the Japanese/Okinawan and Chinese populations together under our new regime. Based on my interactions with both groups, realistically, they're the only ones worth saving. Besides based Aryans of course.

not posting about your plans on Sup Forums, for one lol

You'd need one of the prevailing superpowers to back you into the UN.

Otherwise you'll just be ISIS tier. Or Taiwan tier. Or so on. You might have de facto control over an area but that will never turn into de jure control without international support.

Ergo shooting up the joint and declaring the new white ethnostate is extremely counterproductive.

Well yeah, but what would being "off the grid" entail? there are a lot of different interpretations of that

Man's got a point. But how else would we organize? People would go absolutely ape-shit if we did this in public. And we'd probably also be arrested...

That's why we're also planning a religious revolt instead

Aussie's right, there's not way in fuck we'd able to garner international support the way this plan stands unless we literally take every fucking island in the Pacific and raid cargo ships to establish our infrastructure. And even then. who'd support us? North Korea? Jesus christ...

You aren't planning anything you fucking LARPer.

We start in Niue. Tiny island nation with 1600 people. Extremely easy to overthrow and take over. From there we island hop our way east, through the Cook Islands and Pitcairn.

The ultimate goal will be to wake up on Easter Island

why easter island?

You don't need (((de jure))) control. You don't need to obey their system. That's the catch. If you have actual control of an area, you may do as you wish.

It may or may not have international consequences. If your region is viewed as good, not even (((they))) will be able to intervene without being denounced. Of course, if you're planning to fund something ISIS-tier, then they will have plenty of reasons to invade you.

This world was never meant to be globalized. Before we had kings and kingdoms, and not a single king or kingdom, and you were to do as you pleased. I really hope the globalist system crashes down someday, and that I might live to see it happen. If I'm young when it does, even better.

>He isn't familiar with Sup Forums memes

>You don't need (((de jure))) control.
Point to a single successful nation that doesn't/didn't have de jure control over its territory.

But we don't need to be successful, just away from the shitty global political climate

If that's the case why not just head out into your back yard and go camping?

I think the point is to go camping with a group of people with guns in a foreign country with intent of occupying that territory and establishing a new Right-Wing government in its place. It is a total fucking LARP idea, but I will admit, I like the idea.

because if we gather those like minded people into a nation we can gain economic support and flourish in our small nation without expanding out too far. Think of it like going camping in someone's backyard forever

Sounds like the story if Israel in a nutshell.

>and establishing a new Right-Wing government in its place.
That's my question: to what purpose?

The answer is that there isn't one. It's just a big dumb joke. If you were serious you'd realise that you need to succeed for it to be worth it, and to succeed you need international support, and that immediately precludes establishing a white ethnostate wet dream.

Nope. See above. You will not get economic support. You will achieve absolute-poverty subsistence living like the niggers you make fun of because you cannot just pull industrial society out of whole cloth and nobody will be permitted to sell to the literal (if small) Fourth Reich.

Of* sorry.

Besides you, who's to say we won't have international support in the first place? It may not be from a super-power like America or China, but according to what you're saying, we just need international acknowledgement right?

And are you saying that we can't use the existing tourist exploits as a means of revenue? That just seems absurd.

What if the point is not to effect the big players in world politics. Let them have their stressful and tiring political feuds while we just chill in our small but still good enough eutopia

Also i wouldn't say it's a white ethnostate, as most of the population there is polynesian

Tell me which nation will give international acknowledgement and support to a small group of far-right white nationalists.

Chile I think would most certainly acknowledge us. We would be in fair proximity to each other after all. Closer than say, Russia. Granted, I'm doubtful Russia would back us unless it planned on using our territory as a launch pad for other operations in the Pacific.

who the fuck said we'd be white nationalists. Also, if we go through the existing government in Tuvalu we'd already be recognized

you can create your own town in america you dumb nuts, communist do it, you'll have the protection of the american army while you grow, then if you're wealthy enough you may have your own air force just like texas

That's a smart idea. Thanks Mexianon.

Bud the last 90 years have been Japan and China trying to do so

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You have to win a lot of tournaments and attend a lot of feasts so you can get enough right to rule that way most nations will see you as legitimate and so you aren't fighting a 5 front war

Invade us,but no bully,we want equal representation as you all.

We will have strong race mixing laws as well.

I like this idea too, as India has a fair some of natural resources. If we could have strict race-mixing laws I'd happily live over there. If we were able to take the northern areas, we'd be within a good striking distance to the rest of SEA, should we want to expand.

When has China tried? Citation please.

find an unused oil tanker and put a funny flag on it.

I thought of this as well, but seems absurdly difficult to maintain. It would have no soil, barely any usable space, and most importantly, no naturally occurring sources of fresh-water. Not to mention the fact we'd always have to be moving, so fuel would be an utter pain.

This. It's all about dem feast mang

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we Sealand now

You could build a city at sea using the oil rig model.

fuck off nigger

>not just taking over all of Australia and making it a white land only with an immigration policy that says "fuck off we're full".

ITT people unironically considering the violent overthrow of several US states.

Prepare to be v&

Not feasible the salt and current corrode any structure. You would have enormous maintenance.

We will be claiming Madagascar for the white ethnostate. Making states is what I do, believe me.

#MMGA

Fuck off burger, we're full.