Leftypol here, sincere question.
Why aren't you teaming up with the conservative muslims in your fight against the "decadent west", jews and feminism?
>ib4
>Wow, m8, I breathe the same air as muslims, does that make me a muslim, huh?
Don't give me this crap. We are talking about similar political beliefs . Not basic respiratory processes.
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I don't like dunecoons.
Just let Sup Forums and radical islam kill each other off, classic divide and conquer and liberals only win from such a scenario
Islam is for rape, murder, and pedophilia. I don't want any of that. Fuck off nigger.
Come back when you've learnt basic logic, you idiot.
Sounds more and more like Sup Forums, half of the insults on here are threats towards murder
>leaf
>Sup Forums is a single person
Typical collectivist lefites.
>at least we are not murderers
>yet you constantly agitate for the day of the rope
you know that a exaggerated myth you create to distance yourselves from the people you actually have quite a lot in common with.
But there is no C and B to begin with, your socio-political goals are essentially the same; you wish for a traditionalist authoritarian shithole based on ancient mythology.
What a big fucking straw man argument!
If we're supposedlly similar enough that we should be friends, then why didn't they get along with the Crusaders?
This is why I hate leftypol. Ignorant fucks who are only ironically left wing who can't make arguments because they know how dumb their ideology is.
If anything i respect in muslims its honesty.
However they are honest about wanting to make any country they go into a muslim country, and im afraid that i do not want to live in such a country.
Because traditionalism involves holding up our own history as an ideal, not some cucked generalized sterile vision of conservatism
What are the differences between you and the conservative muslims?
You never seem to make clear what separates your bigotry, antisemitism, sexism and misogyny, from theirs.
Maybe that we are not fucking muslims thought of that one?
False, we do believe in equal rights for women and men. If women wanna be equal to men, they're gonna get treated like men, which means no more female privilege
I give this bait a 6/10, maybe even a 7.
>hey you guys are almost identical to another group
>YEAH BUT HE HAVE A DIFFERENT NAME AND THERE'S SOME OTHER SUPERFICIAL DIFFERENCES AS WELL
convincing argument
Go back to the commune, you hippy.
Sup Forums and alt right is nothing but white radical Islam, and I'm not saying that because of this image, (even though its accurate.) Sup Forums and alt-right being white Islam/white ISIS was clear before with all the shit they post. Its been said repeatedly before.
But
>believes the liberalism is a plot to undermine morality
>degeneracy, traditional values
These fags do not have nor value morality or traditional values. That is the biggest LARP. And they are degenerate as fuck and relish in that fact.
>Conservative
>Muslims
Hey OP, they're all "Conservative" you Faggit.
Literally all of these, both sides, can be attributed to christianity as well.
Except with freedom to eat what i want and freedom to not wear a fucking towel on my head.
>rape, murder, and pedophilia
And there's tons of that in that alt-right/right wing
>freedom
Sup Forums users call that degeneracy
Because one results in my blonde white daughter in a wheat field marrying a 6ft all American white Chad with good values, while the other results in my future wife being Abdul's cum dumpster when I'm rotting in a ditch because we got overrun all before the future wife and myself even got the chance to meet.
>muh bacon 'n shieet
>muh towells
Minuscule differences. But you are still two roosters fighting for the same pile of shit.
real Sup Forumsacks want the muslims just not in their countries to preserve their culture, and otherwise have no issue with them.
we just want to get rid of the jews who are the reasons for the muslims comming here, for the mess in the middle east resulting in muslims hating us, and in general driving for conflict. if it werent for jews muslims would be no issue
if you want proof look in this thread
Islam is shitty religion, it promotes nothing but war and destruction. And people of Sup Forums want to preserve and build civilization.
I have never heard anyone say that not wearing a towel is degeneracy.
Furthermore there is a difference between being free to , lets say, drink alcohol and drinking alcohol every day for 5 hours straight and then being too wasted to do anything for another 2.
Everything in moderation. Excessive use of anything, id argue, is degeneracy but initially its not.
And further more, even though as an atheist i advocate for a christian society is because i live in one right now. If i were an open atheist in a muslim country id be long gone.
You make it seem like a religion can be put into 6 or so sentences, which is incredibly stupid.
They are far from minuscule, and as ive said, you cannot reduce a religion to less than 10 sentences.
You people have no knowledge about anything youre talking about and your main talking points are dumbing the concept down, which is incredibly pathetic.
>it promotes nothing but war and destruction
Half of the time Sup Forums is agitating for a civil war in the US where they collectively rise up and murder all liberals or whatever
REALLY makes you think
Mislims tend to be nonwhite.
I've heard many Sup Forums users say that "(((Freedom))) is degeneracy"
>Why don't you blow yourself up to put out the fire?
Because then I would be a dead muslim
stop remaking this thread
>False, we do believe in equal rights for women and men.
we do fucking not you cuck
>people of Sup Forums want to preserve and build civilization.
>by advocating for a race war.
Nice try, kiddo.
their skin is rather shitty
To protect their own land from kikes and their thralls destroying it. And islam is all about conquering and spreading other people to it.
Conservatibe muslims are bros, so long as they are not being imperialists, islam has much to teach.
>Mislims tend to be nonwhite.
Last time I checked Arabs were considered white in USA.
muzzies are shitskin.
Well if freedom in itself is degeneracy to those people, then what can i say other than that they are retarded and too like to dumb every topic they talk about down not to match their speakers but to match themselves.
If anything as you can see pol is not 1 person nor is it 1 ideology nor is it a single spectrum of the ideology.
I cannot argue for everyone on this website, i can only argue for myself.
Because conservative muslims want to flood the west with more non-whites
>agitating for war is ok if you just say you're protecting your land from kikes
muslims say they are protecting their land from crusaders too
lol you people are all the same
>half of the insults on here are threats towards murder
>words
>actions
Muslims do the things they talk about in a decent percentage. People on an user board? Not so much.
When you get down to it, most here are classic liberals that want to live around their culture, in reality and behavior.
Women in islam are as they historically were with whites same with all of their morals, islam was just a politicsl opponent to catholic kingdoms, atheists shouldnt care about islam.
>you wish for a traditionalist authoritarian shithole based on ancient mytholog
>you
Not all Sup Forums is one person, moron.
There's just as many classic liberals (which Trump is closest too when compared to Hillary), libertarians, and whatnot compared to socialists (all types).
Liberation theology is very recent and does nothing for white males and civilization.
>Atheists shouldnt care about islam
Except in an islam country if youre not a muslim your best case scenario is being kicked out of the house and never talked to by your parents, or anyone that hears that you are one, and a more realistical scenario is youre getting killed.
Because right now, we can't preserve and build our civilization, while currently, jews and mudslimes are screwing the world up.
Unlike muslims, we don't wanna conquer other countries. Basically: "Your ideology stays there, mine stays here, we don't cross paths, good day."
Unlike Jews we don't infiltrate other countries and sabotage them with degeneracy.
Right now, race war is inevitable. Had the jews remained in Israel, and Muslims never taken interests out side the middle east, we'd be 4th reich in our white countries.
Where were you when pol was against Trump attacking Syria? knowing well not to interfere, due to how refugees from there would be forced in white countries, increasing the chance of white minority.
Just like the crusades, we're counter attacking, not attacking first.
>strawman
>Sup Forums is one person
>bait thread
>lack of self reflection
Congrats, leftypol. You got the trifecta plus bonus. And teaming up with radical Islam is YOUR job, Mr. PLO+RAF.
the real difference is that we don't go out and think one day "hmm, its a nice day to blow someone up! allahu akbar."
Can you remind me how many crusades is currently going on?
because they're explosive sandniggers
you post this thread all the time and repeatedly get blown the fuck out, stop trying and go back to your dead board
Yes there is. The core of the belief you perceive to be Sup Forums's belief is the belief in a society only for white people. That is incompatible with the society muslims want, since the overwhelming majority of muslims are non-white. Therefore, it makes no sense for the group of people you perceive to be Sup Forums to 'ally' with muslims.
Not enough
>muslims want to flood the west with more non-whites
tfw when you wan't to biuld a society that would resemble a traditionalist authoritarian 3rd world patriarchal shithole, but hate brown people at the same time
>it's the year 700
>the caliphate is tightening its grip on iberia and is trying to invade it
LMAO WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE THE CURRENT MONARCHY AND THE CALIPHATE ARE SIMILAR
I've explained it in more detail in this post
Excellent bait, ironic leftypol
This is about our collective cultural, historical, genetic survival. But you are a lefty so you shared your wife already
Well, i can't argue this.
>opposed to other cultures mixing
a muslim would help a white convert (a traitor) over a non-muslim
It's not a shithole because it's a traditionalist authoritarian patrichary, it's shit because it's 3rd world
*patriarchy
>Leftypol
>leftist politically incorrect
>left
>politically incorrect
Haha *breaths* haha
Why do bears and wolves fight over slain meat even though both are carnivores?
We think of the basic structure of our beliefs that overlap to be the most truthful and sucesfull ways to preserve a society. Beyond that-and there is much beyond that- and over settling rights we squabble.
not really, pic related.
That's like saying muslims respect christians, just like nazis respected asians(and other races), and we know only one was true.
>Not all Sup Forums is one person,
>pol is not 1 person nor is it 1 ideology nor is it a single spectrum of the ideology.
Like clorkwork. You fags really think this is some golden cop-out. Like it erases the sweeping and general ideas and beliefs here. You treat Sup Forums like the identity and ideology it is all the time, yet which someone calls you out on it and btfo you, suddenly shit shifts and "b-but Sup Forums is not one person!"
There is a general consensus here but dissent is also plenty amerinigger
The muslims zakat (charity) ramadan (fast) hajj (pilgrimage) should be part of catholic law.
Radical Islam: Believes in global caliphate
Sup Forums Nationalism: Believes in a strong nationstate
And this is the difference, and also why you lefties are on the same side of radical islam because you're both globalists.
I can't talk for Sup Forums but from a trad catholic pdv, Islam is bad because there is no distinction between the city of God and the city of man, hence the idea that all aspects of life should be regulated by the divine law in order to instore a perfect society. This is dangerous and stupid because, evil lies in man and no perfect society can exist, and the law is certainly not the solution to attain it. I put Calvinism and Islam in the same group : political-religious ideologies that ends up with the ban of art, of pleasures, of love and in the end of God, because god speaks to the hearts and not to the courts. And when you think you can heal the hearts with the law, that man can heal man through, you forget God.
Of course.
We have a spectrum of ideas here, some cinflicting, but with enough similarities or a related reasoning to back them that we cooperate under the umbrella of Sup Forums in spite of the left which eats itself over the nuances of hoxhaism in comparison to radycal fymynist anarchothirdworldism or having transgressed some taboo that isolates a faction as x-phobic.
What about Ba'aathism?
>Arabs are nonwhite
>Arabs are white
They are from a different race than the people of the countries they invade.
Accepting getting invaded by other peoples is ethnic suicide.
exactly.
leftie OP can't refute this, his liberalism is aiding Islam by opening borders, while pol wants to focus in its own country, not invade others.
In context the global caliphate meant to remove all seperatism from semitic peoples and assimilate other caucasians in europe and abroad to ne Arabs and follow Arab interests, there was no ideology better than islam till maybe fascism
because Muslims are brown and if we all turned Muslim they would be allowed into our countries.
Simple question, why are all muslims democrats then? If we are truly so similar? You don't have two fucking clues as to what "traditional values" are.
>Why aren't you teaming up with the conservative muslims in your fight against the "decadent west", jews and feminism?
Because we want to deport them out of our countries. Are you retarded?
Ba'athism is secular and not radical Islam.
thats the backup plan.
But Arabs are white. If they are not white, then Spaniards and Italians aren't white either.
The baathists tried to imitate western nationalism (or some pan derivate of it similar to panslavism/panturanism/pangermanism) with their own cultural spin. They failed as they were caught between the fronts of the coldwar and because guys like Saddam made it one man shows by slaughtering most basic even collegial opposition like mao did to red thinkers.
If you would look at /sg/ you see people here defending Bashar al Assad last Baathist in power.
The only two systems that worked in the 600s-1500s with return of absolutism, was islam and byzantibe centralization.
Why would you want to deport people you politically agree with on 99% of the issues?
>3rd world
Yes Europe has been a 3 world shithole and is now getting culturally enriched, so it while finally advance to modern civilization by highly qualified Arab rape scientists.
Half the people on Sup Forums are ex leftists.
You are projecting that Sup Forums wants a similar scenario to conservative muslims. Conservative muslims want Sharia law.
The conservatives here want nothing like that. For the most part people here are interested in maintaining their history, culture, and people. Teaming up with conservative muslims would deliver the opposite of that.
I don't care what muslims believe as long as they keep it in their countries.
I don't care what you believe as long as you realize you're literally following a nonsense ideology. One that has been coopted by corporations and the state they own.
Western culture is in complete capitulation to the left and its fucking dismantling it. By the time someone like you actually wakes up and sees that utopias are a lie and that the only thing that matters is your family and your extended family (your race)
It will be too late.
What will the left do without white people to direct every angry notion of inequality at? It will implode. There is no utopia. People are not all the same. Some people are vastly superior to others. The left seeks to make "fair" what never was to begin with. They are literally the enemies of reality.
Communism is a crime against nature Its as gullible and dishonest as it gets.
I am not talking about law abiding muslims, who keep religion an intimate thing.
I am talking about radical muslims who envision a society based on traditionalist patriarchal precepts - with them you seem to share a lot of similarities.
If Im defending the west from islamic extremism, because it want's to take away "degenerate" things such as LGBT+, women equality - then I will fight against you guys also, because your worldview is the closes we get to radical islam.
Protip:
Only newworlders care about whiteness and make exceptions only if significant westernisation of thw whitish guy in question is there. You seem to be a cultural illiterate so thinking about the differences of the old west, the orient and the east beyond "based on traditions! Traditions bad!" Is probably beyond you and I advise you to pick up a book.
Maybe something from peterscholl latour or any other guy who travelled a lot in his life and knew some history.
Here its a more archaic tribalism. I dont want to be replaced by white anglos either even though they would be better inheritors.
You neither. Libertarianism isn't traditional. Capitalism isn't neither. It's litteraly the same cancer as Communism, it's even worse in a way, because while Communism is officialy materialist, Capitalist is more subtle. But in the end, the same goal : death of the sacred, all things reduced to their material value.But how would you know ? Your nation was founded on the wrong and modern philosophy of Locke and on the depraved theology of Calvin. The founding fathers were the SJW of their time. Most burgers ends up being conservative, because they can only cherish their false and degnerate values that they think are traditional. In order to become traditional, a burger must understand that America was, indeed, never great and act to form a real ethno-state such as the one that was in formation in the south with a new aristocracy before the Jewnited states put an end to it. Only hope of white burgers to do this is futurism, but as long as you continue to conserve old liberalism against new liberalism, you will be damned.
>ahmed
>macaroni
France is dead. It is dying since 1789 and is nothing more than a sad corpse today. I already know that. That doesn't make my point invalid.
Mislims rule in their home, euro nationalists rule in our home in alliance against communism, capitalism, liberalism, liberation theology.
Why isn't autism mentioned?
We don't agree with them on 99% of issues and most of the people here are ethno-nationalist.
We don't want Europe or America or Canada or Australia to have minority white populations and they shouldn't. All the defining wars and culture in these places are white.
>INB4 colonialism
There was no australia or america or canada before white people created and fought for them.
race is real faith is not
You have weird ideas about capitalism.
To exchange things of valur to motivate you to produce it is a rather old concept that stretches back to the fucking bronzeage.
You can nuance capitalism to a great degrer.
Race is a social construct. No one has defined white yet. A guy got beaten in my country while mistaken for being a refugee - turns out he was south Italian.
Why are lefties constantly betraying their own culture and team up with muslims?
Why they go to insane length to defend the barbarism that comes from islam?
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Capitalism as in the power of a few over the trades and lives of others with the only value to this power coming from
Material wealth must be destroyed