Redpill me on Gadaffi, Sup Forums. Was he a good guy? Was he /ourguy/?

Redpill me on Gadaffi, Sup Forums. Was he a good guy? Was he /ourguy/?

He said that if he went down, Europe would go black. He was correct. Is flooding Europe with refugees the main reason why Hillary and the rest of (((them))) wanted to take him out so badly? Or was it because he threatened the petrodollar, and they didn't care about collateral damage?

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Gadaffi died in a very homosexual way.
Gadaffi is in Hell.

He was a good guy, in that he kept Africans out of Europe and generally kept the peace in the region.

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Also, during the Libyan "civil war", there were news articles about Libyan students in Canada who were worried because the Libyan government was FULLY PAYING for their education abroad, and they were afraid the funds would be cut because of the chaos at home or the new transitional government.

Disgusting man. Libya went from the best country in Africa to one of the worst. And because Gadaffi was taken down refugees are flooding Europe. I am sure (((they))) knew this would happen, but did not care. It was probably one of their goals.

What the fuck do we do? How do we restore Libya so that they can guard their borders again?

I think I can safely say all the rumors about him plucking women off the street and raping them are flatout lies in light of this.

Also, how does Chris Stevens and Benghazi fit into all this?

I have to wonder what the real story involving sadam hussein is at this point.

afaik he dindu nuffin

Iraq was a good country under Saddam

m.youtube.com/watch?v=RSh6QAs_my8

>saying he forced out the italians,americans, and british bases when he took power
>saying the libyan people earned their freedom with blood and deserve their country, it belongs to them, not to some troublemakers paid-for and drugged by foriegn intelligence
>he counts the names of his dead grandfather who died fighting the italians and is promising to never shame him by leaving Libya, and that he will stay until he dies
>he says he is the son of the desert, a son of tents, and a fighter, not a president and that if he had any official positions he would resign
>"libya was a symbol of revolution and freedom and now some people are trying to regress it to turbans and beards and humiliate it"
>also, saying he was the one who threatened the foreign powers occupying Libya in the 1960's and liberated it, and that it was not the fathers of the terrorists who did that, it was him
>If I fall, Europe goes black

Gadaffi was literally /ourguy/

I mean involving the Iran-Iraq war, the kuwait invasion, and stuff involving the kurds. I already know that the invasion was a shame and iraq was better off

He wasn't really a "good guy" but he wasn't "evil" either.

>why did America kill Gaddafi?

The gold backed pan African currency

Fuck the Iraq invasion man. Imagine we never went into Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya how much better the world would be. Fuck the deep state for doing 9/11, fuck the corrupt, lying media, and fuck our dumbed down population.

What did Saddam do to Kurds?

Apparently he gassed them, but I'm skeptical of pretty much any genocides, particularly those involving gassings. I even have my doubts about the armenian one considering making the ottoman empire look bad would probably be good for israel.

He threatened the banking cartels. Turns out without them you can have a nice economy even in a shithole.

They went after him for two reasons only...

>No Central Bank in Libya
>His gold

That's it...

He was a good boy who wanted to share his zone theories

Used (((biological weapons)))
False flag CIA excuse to invade so he
Couldn't change from selling oil in us dollars to the euro

then he says

>why do americans want us to hand over our oil fields and lands to lice-ridden Bin laden and to zawahiri?
>they want Libya to become a new Afganistan, a new Iraq
>we havent used force yet, he mentions examples of how countries react to terrorists, talking abiut Waco, and saying that USA Destroyed Fallujah, Russia killed everyone in a school during a hostage crisis, Israel destroyed Gaza etc.... and why are they allowed to defend themselves but Libya isnt?
>calling on the Lobyan people to mobilize and defend themselves
>the libyan oil before he took power was 90% fo the american companies and %10 to the libyan people, and now its 90% for Libya and 10% for american companies, the americans dont want this to continue

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Every one of these genocides are fake, including the holohoax.

Out of all these genocides though, the Armenian one is the most real.

Watch this documentary, OP youtube.com/watch?v=qVHzAinRH4g

Gadaffi did nothing wrong and was 100% /ourguy/. A victim of the globalists.

Very similar to Assad who they are using Isis as an excuse to invade so Israel can take Golan heights

>Or was it because he threatened the petrodollar
This

Rest in peace brave soul Qaddafi he really was /ourguy/

The golan heights is not even close to the only reason for the Syria conflict.

Absolutely. Read this one as well Gadaffi was fucking based

Wow. Fucking boss. This makes me want to cry.

"They"? It was *all* Hillary Clinton's idea. She wanted a tough "regime change" on her resume for her re-run for president. She was a fake SoS, Obama didn't let her do shit ... Hillary lobbied super hard to overthrow Gadaffi ... she finally convinced Obama. Rest is history

And fucking Hillary with the "we came, we saw, he died" while fucking laughing.

Fucking bitch.

>Afghanistan Dead
>Iraq Dead
>Libya Dead
You are here
>Syria

Regardless of the motives, we have a bad track record of intervention in the muslim countries and need to stop getting ourselves involved

He was an insane dictator who funded Black September, IRA, Black Panthers, Basque Separatists and many other terrorist groups. He's responsible for PanAm and the death of Yvonne Fletcher. He also kept women in a rape dungeon under his palace.
>He said that if he went down, Europe would go black. He was correct.
Yes, he made sure that would happen. He tried to profit off the west.

DIdnt say it was the only reason my foliage friend

So Hillary was 100% the reason for taking down Gadaffi? Are you serious? Fucking BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!

funny how these evil dictators can roam the streets freely

Pretty much.

Obama was actually very hesitant about the Libya situation and probably would not have gone were it not for her pressuring him so much.

t. the_donald

seriously how can you be so bluepilled?

He was good for Libya, bad for the French franc and globalists.

According to released Clinton emails, with 143 tons of gold and also equal amount silver, he was starting a new African currency (dinar) backed by gold. France colonized much of Africa and the last thing they needed was the franc to be replaced with a valuable currency they can't control. There were riots spawned no doubt by Obama/Clinton agents and Sarkosy (France) attacked Libya followed by NATO.
That was in 2011, a very dark period and reminder why globalists like Obama/Clinton are dangerous as leaders. We should've never let France drag NATO into what was an illegal war.

>he actually believes obama dindu nuffin

>Hillary
Nope pan African currency backed by gold

Hillary just works for the people who own the petro dollar

Strike 1: Having no Rothschild bank which allowed him to issue debt free money to his people
Strike 2: Trying to unite the Arab world in an effort to counter western backed wahabbist terrorism
Strike 3: The gold dinar

He was truly a great man. Libya was not just great relative to the region, but the entire world. Watch this video I'll link below and then watch a video about Libya pre/post Ghaddafi.

youtube.com/watch?v=VZZvPlGCt_8

I laugh every time I see Assad laugh at Ghaddifi. If only that fucker knew. hahaha.

>Gaddafi announced his willingness to negotiate for a handover to a transitional government, a suggestion rejected by the NTC

What the FUCK. Why did NATO not accept the truce? They could have installed a puppet government without Libya falling apart.

Here is the full quick rundown of the middle east that everyone should know. Pic related.

I'll give it a watch. Why is Assad laughing? At what is he laughing at?

He wanted to sell oil in Euros instead of dollars and wanted a new African currency. Ameritards only care about their own prosperity and not the fact he was preventing Europe being flooded by rapefugees.

wtf is up with that green flag?

ENGLISH SUBS PLEAAAASE!!!!!!

Christ Stevens found out about Obama admin/Clinton cabal moving weapons (stinger missiles and SARIN GAS...) to rebels in Syria. He was about to blow the whistle and had to die to cover it all up.

Some of those missiles were used on our own troops and recovered. And terrorists we support in Syria, that Assad is fighting, got their hands on chemical weapons from a stockpile from a country we destroyed with the same terrorists..... and that gas was used on civilians to false flag Assad.

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Hillary literally tossed it out the window to settle a personal vendetta.

She condemned a man to die and later laughed about it with the infamous, "we came, we saw, he died, HAHAHHAHAHAHA."

That line will be her "let them eat cake," for all eternity.
>That line is actually misquoted.

Fuck off hillary don't you have an sever to wipe over with bleach and a cloth?

You'll see. Notice what Ghaddafi is talking about when Assad laughs.

>We can't trust the west. Saddam was a piece of shit and not all of us got along with him, but he was a friend of the west and they betrayed him. The leader of an Arab nation was killed by the west and we sit by and laugh
>It could be us next!
>Cue Assad laughing at the suggestion of this by Ghaddafi
>Cue what's happening in Syria now

I have summarized it here and here and this is the final part:

>talks about qatar and arab news and asks them for whos sake are they lying
>also asking his fello arabs "why are you against us and not with us? Is this the brotherly bond between us?
>"one day, you may regret what you are doing on a day when regret cant help you anymore"

Fucking based.

Fucking pathetic. Gets me so mad. I want to see those responsible executed.

Why didn't Stevens blow the whistle sooner? Make a facebook video even?

Not the only reason but it IS a pretty major reason. Look up Jared Kushner's connections to Rupert Murdoch who sits on the board of Genie Energy, an Israeli oil and gas company, along with Jacob Rothschild. They were granted permission to go there and found tonnes of extractable oil in the region.

This is INSANE.

This.

Welcome to the party, pal. Getting mad is the first step. Never stop fighting to put these people away. I, and many others on this board, have been following this all since it started 6 years ago. Many have been playing catch up over the last few years.

I think about it every day. I'll never forgive them.

Sup Forums never had country flags until recently you redditor

The flag is Libya. Their old flag.

When did he say this quote? Can these people be brought down?

Color of Islam, and the Green Revolution

Why would general Wesley Clark be allowed to keep talking about the US plans to invade 7 countries in 5 years?
Clark has been on every mainstream and alternative news site and talk show for years repeating the exact same prepared speech, and he is embraced by the truth movement, yet still remains an inside, high ranking official, and expert on US foreign policy.
Why isn't he on the run like Snowden, or at least shunned by the US government and the mainstream media?
This is classic limited hangout from the cointelpro program.

>libyan flag was just all green until 2011
that was leaf tier potato nigger

he was planing to create an economic union for the maghreb and stop neo-colonialism of France and other european countries in africa and he didn't like the world order. in France there was years of propaganda against him but nobody believed it, the government just didn't care about what we were rhinking about that. bernard henry levy, a jew philosopher, told our president sarkozy to send the army, he always tries to destabilize anything who is a threat to the nwo. some rumors also say that kadhafi paid for sarkozy's presidential campaign and he didn't want to pay back.

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This is from BBC

The model that was created in reality was an ultra-hierarchical pyramid - with the Gaddafi family and close allies at the top wielding power unchecked, protected by a brutal security apparatus.

In the parallel world of the Green Book, the system is called a Jamahiriyya - a neologism that plays on the Arabic word for a republic, Jumhuriyya, implying "rule by the masses".
Image caption Gaddafi's 'system' as envisaged in the Green Book

So the long-suffering Libyan masses were dragooned into attending popular congresses vested with no power, authority or budgets, with the knowledge that anyone who spoke out of turn and criticised the regime could be carted off to prison.

A set of draconian laws was enacted in the name of upholding security, further undermining the colonel's claim to a champion of freedom from oppression and dictatorship.

Legal penalties included collective punishment, death for anyone who spread theories aiming to change the constitution and life imprisonment for disseminating information that tarnished the country's reputation.

Tales abounded of torture, lengthy jail terms without a fair trial, executions and disappearances. Many of Libya's most educated and qualified citizens chose exile, rather than pay lip service to the lunacy.

My favourite is how the good guys always win and love always defeats hate.

>They secretly imprisoned and tortured perceived enemies of the state.
So basically like every other country.

He got killed by (((them))) for switching his currency to be backed by a gold standard.

Well. Sure. Why did Flynn have his security clearance renewed under Obama at the end of 2016? Or Mattis? These were people who were reprimanded and fired by Obama's admin.

Flynn and his son were vocal about Pedogate, ISIS, and knew more about Benghazi than anyone. He was dangerous to Obama's admin (Which is why Obama begged Trump not to hire him). Yet still was allowed SC..

And it's not like what Clarke says doesn't have a observable reality backing it up.

Both, He created the dinar gold backed currency which attacked the petrodollar, in otherwords, another adversary like Iran, and it also stabilized the region and prevents ISIS from spreading into Africa.

This was all planned from the beginning, though, Europe is collateral and the powers that be make big bucks on shipping illegals into Europe.

Has anyone here read Gadaffi's Green Book? It's in my to-read list. Has only been mentioned in this thread by a chilean guy copy-pasting from the BBC (fake!). I bet an honest assessment of the contents of the book is what this thread needs.

Was Ghadaffi a terrorist? I'm the guy who copy-pasted BBC's stuff back there.

I only would like to know more.

It's a bit boring and technical. It doesn't really contain a lot of philosophical meat and potatoes. And it's all
>muh God
sort of crap.

Also it's only 40 pages and out there in pdf form

Well, what this thread has settled is that Libya was definitely going well under Gadaffi in general terms. What isn't clear is if he was murderous or anything like that (I even doubt we that we could know for sure given that since "we came, we saw, he died" Libyia has become NG Wild). As I understand it, Gadaffi realized that both capitalism and communism were doomed to fail, and thus he created his alternative and expounded it in his Green Book and applied it to his country. So as I see it we have either just another murderous dictator or someone we need to take very seriously (sandHitler).

As far as I can tell from talking to Libyans that still show up from time to time (although I doubt many gaddafi loyalists survived the purge after the war, so it would be hard to get a completely unbiased picture) things were pretty provincialist there. People living in the Tripoli area were immensely loyal to Gaddafi and lived the good life for it. People living in the Benghazi area were less than pleased with the state of things. And Benghazi was home to all of the organized crime in Libya, such as human trafficking primarily in the form of selling passage to Europe via sea for African migrants. (which Gaddafi ended up shutting down with regard to a treaty with Italy...and then promptly resumed when he was taken out)

> What isn't clear is if he was murderous or anything like that (I even doubt we that we could know for sure given that since "we came, we saw, he died" Libyia has become NG Wild).
You also have to remember that the region is a total shithole and Libya was great when compared to the whole world, not just that area. There's no doubt he had his fair share of
(((freedom fighters))) in his country that needed to be subdued. I wouldn't call him murderous. He was a 'benevolent' dictator who actually cared about his people and that says a lot for a leader in the Middle East.

And he took responsible for the Lockerbie bombing only because doing so would lift the (((sanctions))) placed on him. Along with the conditions of giving up his Nuclear program and downsizing his army... so they would be too weak to fight the terrorists we supported that killed him and left the country in ruins.

>Gadaffi realized that both capitalism and communism were doomed to fail, and thus he created his alternative and expounded it in his Green Book and applied it to his country.
He was lucky enough to have oil subsidize it all t b h desu. Still shows how he used all the resources of Libya to benefit the people of Libya, which adds onto a little bit to my first point.

>So as I see it we have either just another murderous dictator or someone we need to take very seriously (sandHitler).
I'd definitely say more the latter than the former. It's easy for people to say somewhere in the middle and that he 'was better than the alternative' thanks to all the propaganda we consumed to demonize and dehumanize him. Libya itself along with Syria was the biggest wake up we've had in terms of Western fake news media. It's easy to forget it was as bad then as it is now, we're just more away of it. Like an optical illusion; once you see it you can't unsee it.

I apologize for being basic on the topic, but what is the general consensus on dictators that were demonized by the west?

Afganistan - ??? - ???
Iraq - Saddam - shit
Libya - Gadaffi - /ourguy/
Syria - Assad - good
Turkey - Erdogan - shit
Russia - Putin - redpilled or controlled opposition
China - Mao - ???
China - Xi Jin Ping - ???
Vietnam - Pol Pot - shit
Best Korea - Kim Jung Un - ???

Can anyone fill me in?

Thanks leaf, that's pretty much /thread for me. Although you do have a point about the purge.
I guess reading the damn book sould settle the matter for me (I didn't know it was 40 fucking pages, now I feel lazy!)

I would say that Saddam was extremely useful. Kept his people behaving. Same with Gadaffi for sure. Assad is probably one of the last pillars of support for stability in that region. Without him, the dam holding back the waters of radical terrorists will pour out for sure.
Also, it's rarely talked about, but I believe Assad stopped accepting US currency for oil in 2011.

Erdogan is also correct. Good job, user.

thanks. have any knowledge on the ???s on my list? I must admit, even after lurking and sponging up threads for so long, there's still so much to learn

Bump

Wish Trump didn't take down Flynn. He was truly /ourguy/.

I'm sure Flynn passed on what he knows to Trump

Gadaffi was based

Interesting ( I didn't even know about the Lockerbie bombing baka). And oil is a huge factor, you're right (making the Venezuela situation even more pathetically hillarious).
Would you care to expand a bit on Assad? I honestly haven't been able to see through the bullshit on that.

>Afganistan - ??? - ???
Total shithole.
>Iraq - Saddam - shit
He deserved to die. He really was brutal and deserved to be hung, but we should have never went into Iraq regardless.
>Libya - Gadaffi - /ourguy/
For the most part, yes.
>Syria - Assad - good
The last bastion of strength against Western/Wahhabist imperialism. Yes.
>Turkey - Erdogan - shit
Yes.
>Russia - Putin - redpilled or controlled opposition
Knows about (((Them))). Supports /ourguys/ in the ME. He is redpilled. A very useful ally, for now.
>China - Mao - ???
Deserves a million deaths.
>China - Xi Jin Ping - ???
Deserves a million deaths. The Chinese are locusts when it comes to natural resources and commie pieces of shit.
>Vietnam - Pol Pot - shit
Commie scum who deserved a million deaths
>Best Korea - Kim Jung Un - ???
You'll get mixed feelings on him. Commie scum who terrorizes his people but also sticks up the (((them))).

Probably good compared to whats there now

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really nice breakdown, thanks. can you elaborate on afganistan, previous and current china?

Trump didn't want him to go. He actually asked to stay. Flynn resigned out of his own volition to not tarnish the Trump admin image. It was already bad with the Russia accusations before hand. It seems ridiculous in hindsight but you have to remember how rabid liberals were to start. Now even the most ardent Trump hater is skeptical of the Russia thing but follows it anyways to cling to something to support why they should hate him.

Like I said, Flynn was dangerous to Obama's admin. We got scandal after scandal pouring out every week. It's why they had to unmask him and take him out. Getting caught unmasking him was nothing compared to what would have happened if he stayed.

If that 0% interest from state-owned banks is correct, I can see why (((they))) would have a problem with it.

He was convinced to stop his nuclear weapons program in 2003. In early 2011 NATO powers used airstrikes to prevent him from putting down a rebellion. By the end of the year he was beaten by a mob and dragged through the streets.

If I were any other leader considering giving up my nuclear program in exchange for promises of aid from the west, I'd really think hard about what happened to Gadaffi.

if he was such a nationalist hero why did his citizens kill him in the streets?

Read the info in my two pics here:
He was a Baathist Alawite who ruled Syria and was secular about it. He was like Gaddhafi in that he was a 'benevolent dictator'. He did a great job of protecting religious minorities and keeping out the terrorists. For the shithole that region was, all the religions within that region actually co-existed peacefully with little trouble. It wasn't until we armed wahhabist/salafist terror militias via Saudi's that Syria went to hell. So basically we've been destroying actually moderate, peaceful, stable, somewhat democratic countries under the guise of bringing (((democracy))) on behalf of rat holes aka Saudis/Qataris that need ((democracy)) the most.

The Webm is actually the freedom fighters we supported that is mentioned in the /sg/ rundown in that caused the international outrage.

youtube.com/watch?v=rUhe87r5bEE
Check out this quick 3 minute video.

And to add to this here: See pic related in this post.