Today, the Tories choose their new leader

So we're finally going to see who will be Canada's next Prime Minister.

I'm hoping Bernier gets it because let's face it, he's moderate enough to get normies, he's right wing enough to set things in motion for 10 years from now when a real right winger can take power, and he's addressing fucking immigration, even if not to a truly desirable degree. Beggars can't be choosers, and better a bit too many and moving towards a reasonable level, instead of more of "way too much and no one moving towards reducing it".

>I'm hoping Bernier gets it because let's face it, he's moderate

He's a LIBERTARIAN ffs. He'll be the first Quebecer to not win a single seat in Quebec and the Conservative Party will probably retreat to Alberta again

He only wants a 16% reduction in immigration btw, mostly so he can copy Harper's numbers like every terrible Conservative partisan likes to do

>He only wants a 16% reduction in immigration

That's still 16% lower then what it is, and like I said you can't just jump into the deep end, not with our system.

Anyone outright proposing good immigration reform has 0 chance of winning, these things don't happen in one leap and bound.

Bernier thankfully has no chance of winning a general election because of his non-immigration-related policies, but even his immigration numbers are so pathetically cucked it's sad. Like he obviously just wants to please his rich patrons while throwing a bone to conservative voters with things like a pathetic 16% reduction in immigration. Just like Harper did nothing but help rich people get richer while occasionally throwing a bone to conservative people.

I swear, Albertans ruined Conservatism in this country (and Bernier is an honorary Albertan as far as I care)

>that pic
Holy fuck it's real

>Bernier thankfully has no chance of winning a general election

I don't know, given how a snap election would lead to a Tory majority, I think he and any other moderate candidates would just have to show up at this point

Yeah, their convention for it is being held at the same place as Anime North right now, our biggest anime convention.

It's great

You're deluded if you think a libertarian would win. People don't go for that type of shit and it would be horrible for the country

The anime convention probably did more lasting good to Canada than the Conservative Party ever will

what's going on in Canada?

>try to redpill BC girl
>she says strong federal government is a good thing
>she says everyone in Canada agrees with this across party lines

What the fuck, Canada?

After the 2015 election Harper decided to step down as party leader and eventually leave politics altogether (it's up in the air if that's what our PMs will do when they loose given how often they stick around and become PM in 4 or 8 years again).

Today is the day the party picks its new leader, who is almost assured to become the next PM either next election or the election after that one.

The Conservative Party is choosing their new leader. Maxime Bernier is expected to win the leadership, but he's basically like François Fillon without any of the good qualities

Where you have "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", we have "peace, order, and good governance".

What we agree on isn't a strong federal government, but a competent one. She's an airhead.

Quebec is strongly against the federal government overreaching all the time

Of course I don't expect some stoner chick from BC to know anything like that

I've actually been trying to figure out Canadian federalism, particularly whether there's any libertarian thought anywhere in the system.

Actually she shits on QC all the time for fucking everything up. I got her to unironically agree that the frenchies should go home.

Though to be fair, the fact that they get three dedicated seats on your Supreme Court strikes the American in me as downright shocking.

Well fuck you

>We want the alt-right audience

Why does that anime sign not have French on it?

It's there but it's complicated to describe in American terms.

Something to remember is that unlike you (and it's actually because of decades of watching how it effected your country) we set out rigid guidelines as to what falls under Federal and Provincial powers in the constitution. Everything is already set in stone regarding which of the two it belongs to (with municipalities and regional governments getting their powers from deferrals from the province). The questions are thereform not if something should be under the power of one or the other, but how much power the entity it belongs to should exert.

There's wildly differing opinions. Here in Quebec we're seen as the socialist ones (though we're actually quite split on the matter, it's just that in the 80s due to separatism the right wing party died and only recently managed to successfully come back) while in Alberta it's basically Texas.

Because it's in Toronto, the Conservative one only has French on it due to the fact that parties always operate in both languages (Bloc Quebecois excluded)

The anime convention is probably in Alberta or something so it can be just in English, but the Conservative Party operates at the federal level so the stuff for their convention has to be in both languages

It's more because it's the only convention centre large enough for the venue in Toronto that isn't massively too large
>The anime convention is probably in Alberta

Nope, Anime North is in Toronto, it's at the big convention centre by the airport.

ERIN O TOOLE FOR A CANZUK UNION!!

Right, one of the main differences that hit me in your guys federalism was how "residual" powers are treated. In the US, all powers not granted to the federal government in the constitution fall to the states (or the people, whatever that means). I guess you guys work on the reverse principle: Any powers not granted to the provinces in your constitutional documents remain with the federal government.

Of course, in the US, we found that the commerce clause of our federal constitution puts almost unlimited power within the federal government's hands, and with the exception of a very few highly local matters, the feds could exert complete control over most functions of government. They have tried to reach many of those core local functions in the past, but the courts more recently have held them back. Like the Violence Against Women Act and this one law having to do with gun violence near schools, and of course the commerce clause portion of NFIB v. Sibelius.

It's definitely different. I know I'm getting a really distorted picture from talking to this BC girl too, but goddamn if she doesn't insist there seems to be no room in Canadian politics for reducing federal influence in local matters.

canada's people are ready for the redpill, hes going to give it to them

>Any powers not granted to the provinces in your constitutional documents remain with the federal government.

It's even more rigid then that: with how it's set up, literally everything that does exist or could potentially exist in the future falls under either explicit Provincial power, or explicit Federal power, with any unimaginable situation that somehow didn't fit under one or the other, or somehow under both, being determined by the courts.

>there seems to be no room in Canadian politics for reducing federal influence in local matters

That's a BC thing, they're very much in favour of centralised power, even their conservatives. However outside of them and arguably Ontario, no one else is, instead favouring regionalism or regionalism being at the very least mainstream.

>That's a BC thing, they're very much in favour of centralised power, even their conservatives. However outside of them and arguably Ontario, no one else is, instead favouring regionalism or regionalism being at the very least mainstream.

Thank god, I was starting to wonder if there was some kind of government mind control drug up there.

I mean other than that BC bud.

One thing I should also mention is that provinces work differently then states in a very odd way: we're all a region, or more then one. Unlike in the US where states tend to have bordering ones have a large overlapping culture, for us each province has a very distinct identity and subculture to it, and in the case of Ontario and Quebec multiple ones.

There's remarkably little travel between provinces outside of between Quebec and Ontario when compared to states, and the same applies to moving to other provinces. You're much less likely to have a good grasp of what other provinces and their people are like then you Americans are for people of other states.

I'm lucky in that I had to travel to other provinces regularly due to my family being spread out.
>I was starting to wonder if there was some kind of government mind control drug up there

Fun fact: in my province the CIA worked with our Ivy League university on just that.

>One thing I should also mention is that provinces work differently then states in a very odd way: we're all a region, or more then one. Unlike in the US where states tend to have bordering ones have a large overlapping culture, for us each province has a very distinct identity and subculture to it, and in the case of Ontario and Quebec multiple ones.

Ah, my friend has mentioned that. It reminds me of pre-Civil War American culture—people didn't identify as Americans so much as Virginians or New Yorkers or Missourians. That state-first attitude had almost completely vanished after WWII. In state politics now, you really don't hear much about doing the right thing for people in the state, but about doing the right thing in general.