Why do conservapoors vote against their own economic interests?

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Tax cuts for everyone dipshit

>voting against their own interests
kys faggot

what did Jesus say about selling your soul?

morality > money

there's more to life than self-interest

*there's more to life than material self-interest

morality actually is in our self-interest, liberals are just too stupid to know better

Yeah. Those Trayvons and Mike Browns in the ghetto need to keep voting Democrat because if they do it just one more time like the previous 50 times it will all get better....

>Obama runs on a platform of reigning in Wall Street and demanding to bring back regulation on CDOs and other derivatives that crony bankers were using to make trillions and tank the world economy
>hires the same people that got the deregulation passed to Sec of Treasury, Fed Reserve etc in 2009
>nothing gets done
>people vote him back into office in 2012 and he sends us into the biggest financial bubble with consequences rivaling 1929 collapse

Because view what they earn as part of themselves
>I'm a truck driver. I make X dollars per year. The only thing that changes how much that buys is tax that it takes

Work is their identity and anything that diminishes the value of their identity is evil

It's the same thing with liberals. Except liberals, ironically, see categories as their identity and similarly hate anything that diminishes the value of that identity.

The bottom line is everyone wants to feel like they're worth something.
Conservatives take identity in their work.
Liberals take identity into their "category".

Both hate it when you attack their identity. For conservatives, it's their work.

It's called false consciousness
Look it up

It's simple. People who work and want to make something of themselves want to pay less in taxes so they can reinvest their money in the way the see fit. Loser who don't work and want givemedats want higher taxes so they can get free shit at the expense of the producers.

cuz they dum duh

Underrated post.

I don't get this concept. I just got my first REAL office job, and I fucking hate seeing money taken out for taxes. I want to pay as little taxes as possible. I mean my job gives me healthcare benefits.

I would never want to pay 40-50% in taxes. Affording rent is difficult as it is.

Except Conservashits actively vote for politicians that give their bosses leverage over them at work and let's them devalue their work

But you have no problem with your employer stealing 30% of the value you produce?
Hypocrite

That's not how they see it.
The only part that they see directly is the subtraction on their pay check.

Combine that with the cultural idea that comparing how much money you make with your friends is taboo, then taxes are the only concrete way of seeing attacks on your work identity

My stocks are up 70% since trump got in. You dont have a clue what youre talking about. By all means carry on though. Your ignorance helps the cause.

Educated people make more money than uneducated people
Educated people are far more liberal.

It's not a matter of people who make more money want to keep more money

H1b devalues peoples work
Illegal immigration devalues peoples work
Inflation and the subsequent taxes devalue peoples work
Out sourcing everything because corporate taxes are so high and our govt makes it cheaper to import shitty chinese goods devalues americans work.
These things are the biggest threat to the devaluing of american workers, dingus.

why do you post this thread every day? its not about personal and immediate gain sometimes, its about the betterment of the country long term. we got enough destroying our country for immediate free money the last 20 years its time to change course shareblue.

>Implying hoodrat niggers, white trash dixiecrats, and mexican nationals, dead people, cats, and parrots vote Republican
Those are all Democrat voters and you know it.

Liberals scare people to vote this literalllu happened last night

>liberal friend's spouse works at a university on a research grant
>grants been renewed like 20 times for ongoing reasearch for years
>the budget for the national health research institute will be slightly cut
>the lead director of the project tells everyone "they might cut our grant becuase of this"

Keep in mind that is simply wild speculations, there is no reason to think the grant they work on is going to go away. Literally fear monger if

>so now my libtard friend is pissy and thinks trump is literally destroying his wife's career

The left is disgusting desu

Q.E has put us in another bubble though. The rise before the giant fall.

The stupids think billionaires will take care of them. Stupids

There is 30 years worth of psychological studies on this question. Google "Altemeyer" "authoritarians" and read his book for a good summary.

The TL;DR is that they hate prioritize their bigotry over any economic interests.

Yeah but i don't like big corps the being able to capitalize and muscle out smaller competition.

Is there a middle ground?
Do you engage in "ethical"/tactical stock choices?

If you care about America surely you don't want to invest in some SJW prone corporation.

Economics is hard to understand for OP because he works for parks & rec in his municipality and is currently working towards a bachelors in art with an emphasis on Woman's studies.

If OP ran or helped run a private business, at any level, small mid-size or large, this thread wouldn't exist

>not wanting your country over-run with violent and uneducated muslims and illegal mexicans who depress wages is bigotry
That's only the tip of the iceberg of why people voted for trump. We shall see if anything changes. We saw how Obama did literally nothing to change how Wall Street runs our government. He did however hire all the same bankers that got everything deregulated and laws changed to protect themselves from prosecution back into the positions of power to make sure nothing changed though.

What do you mean?

How is a company supposed to grow and/or protect itself from hickups if it does not do this?

If anything this is just a company being responsible.
Over the top bonuses/wages of bankers/ CEOs is something to think about.
As are stocks But investing in stock options has always been an option and people can also do that on the side with other companies anyway.
Especially if they are not taxed.

Look at this fucking meme.

I don't mean reserves. I mean profit. Where does profit come from? From underpaying you. Say you're producing 30$/hr worth of goods, your employer will pay you 10$/hr, 10$/hr for upkeeping of the company and 10$/hr he will legally steal and call "profit"
He's a parasite, a leech

Still waiting on any evidence for trickle down being a thing chief


Meanwhile we have literally dozens of examples of lowerd wealth i equality and publics works projects leading to healthier and better functioning societies


Our countries collapsing from being pillaged by kleptocrats and you still drink the koolaid from the 0.01% , way to go

This is bait. Avoid this poster. I want to bite so hard but I know it's just an illusion. No one is this stupid.

Question for you champ

Without having to google it

What is "income elasticity of demand"?

You might want to learn somethings about economics from surces other than Sup Forums and reddit before running your mouth off to the o

The problem isn't going to come from lowering corporate taxes from companies that actually produce goods and services. The problem is coming from a deregulated financial institution that runs on fake money, controlling the government and allowed to steal peoples money without consequence. Some guy owning a fucking business isn't kike kikensberg financial making trillions on unregulated wall street while everyone else loses out.

What do you not understand? I can go in more detail if you have questions?

>trick down
>an economic model

You are a fuckig retard, trickle down isn't a "model" of economics it's a descriptive metaphor of how money flows through the econemy.

Because literally when a billionaire has a shit load of money it doesn't just sit in a bank account, everything he invests in gets that money to spend, businesses, funds, government bonds etc

And his accountants and shit make commissions

And all the shit they buy and services they buy goes in the pockets of other people who in turn spend and save and invest on and on and on it goes

Now you sound like an idiot with "mug trickle down" bullshit

poor people voting for capitalism are voting in the econmoic interests

gibs stolen from producers crash economy, so short term thinking is why demcorats and socialists are fools

you dunce

Because it makes you angry and you're a faggot

but I'm a conservarich

Rich people are better than me. I can live with them screwing me, but I will not get screwed by a fucking smelly nigger.

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because Liberal giving money to terrorist group, is much better?

>poor urban niggers vote democrat for generations
>they're still poor
:thinking:

but there are rich people in capitalist countries!!!!!
MUH INEQUALITY
fuck off you braindead shortsighted jealous petty destructive commies

why did i watch that 900 times

When the economy as a whole rises, so does the quality of life of everyone else.

Like the rising of the tides, from the smallest skiff to the largest yacht, everyone lives better.

The corporations creating and renovating ideas that make my life better, and in turn saves my time should be relieved of all the constraints of innovations.

If this isn't bait then you don't understand how even a small business works let alone one that hires thousands of people.

>Pricing your local industries out of competition
>against your own interests
Fighting for 15 dollars an hour is not in anyone best interest

yes lets cut taxes on minimum wage. you save 2 dollars

the reason why white people vote for republicans is because they dont want dindus and beaners moving to their street and steal their jobs, rape their daughters, devalue their house

republicans is the white people party. they're far from perfect. they should focus on body slamming guardian reporters, making laws allowing people to drive over communists in north carolina. that's why people for republicans

that's why trump won, by the way, despite ignoring the "conservative" ideology. the problem is he, and few others, are alone, surrounded by god's chosen

appeals to authority and credentials are not an argument

>multi-national corporations pay next to nothing
>small local businesses crippled by 35% business tax
>lower enitre tax rate
>remove multi-national loop-holes and kickbacks
>16% > 0%
>Save small business lots of money
>make shit loads more from the multi-national kikes

>What are cooperatives?

retarded people are poor irrsepective of good economic policy, access to resources, etc.

because STIGGINIT

Nobody earns minimum wage except liberal baristas.

Well, BTFOing you was pretty easy, thanks for putting up so little of a fight.

if youre a small business why would you incorporate and pay the 35% tax when you could just be a sole proprietorship or partnership and pay just income tax like everyone else?

Coffee shop for you sweetheart :)

Yeah, the middle-class should love paying more taxes and having 6,000 dollar deductibles thanks to Obamacare! Wtf is wrong with them?

yes, let's vote to a party (democratic) that wants to:

>>> arrest people for "hate speech"
>>> take away their guns
>>> give infinite quotas and affirmative action to every shitskin, especially women
>>> giving amnestia to 11 million illegal aliens

yes, that's how they should vote for their own interest!

Sorry, but the labour theory of value is objectively false. Your labor is worth exactly what you are paid for it, and by definition it cannot be any more or less than that.

Maybe instead of using non-empirical nonsense definitions of Value written by fakes like Marx, you should study economics and discover the truth.

> arrest people for "hate speech"
That's what Trump wants to implement in the US actually.

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>I get my information from Sup Forums the post.

In america there is a thing called the "self employment tax". Its fucking retarded and if you don't make a good bit of dosh as an LLC you get swallowed up by nickle and dime taxes. Small business owner here. I didn't make much first 6months in business. 15k. I paid over 3k in taxes. Not including insurance and registration fees. Also every year you pay to keep your DBA name which isn't much but all these things combined fucking suck. If you want an employee on the books oh boy....you're gonna pay. Contracting is fucking annoying too because you're competing with illegals who don't have insurance or give a flying fuck about on-the-books taxes and the home owners who hire them don't know any better.

>your labor is worth more than you are paid for it

Then why don't you just do the work alone and make the 30$ of profit yourslef? What about people working in non production administrative or research roles?

>my house is worth 1billion dollars, but those greedy capitalists will only pay me 225k!

Such injustice

>study economics
Oh you mean the bourgeois propaganda?
Sure I want to be a good consumer.

>Then why don't you just do the work alone and make the 30$ of profit yourslef?
Because capital is concentrated in capitalism. And gets even more concentrated(monopolisation) thus I have to sell my labour value to the propetary of capital

>muh corporations

We don't give a fuck about taxes, just voted for him to ass blast faggot leftists like yourself

Why do shills post the same slide threads every day?

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im surprised obamaleaf is in here. he must have gotten banned

voting republican isn't against their economic interests. the policies of the democrat party are against their interests; open borders, tpp, anti-coal, anti-pipeline, high taxes that drive out manufacturing. blue collar workers udsed to be the dems bread and butter, they switch to a pro gay, pro trans, anti-Christian, pro muslim, open borders, anti-business, feminist, sjw, anti-white platform, which has flipped the voters.

You don't believe capital is concentrated in a few hands??

it's in big corporations' best interest; that's why they lobby for it.

How did it get there? Let me guess it was "stolen" from the proletariat right?

Why do white liberals commit self genocide?

>tax cuts for the rich make poor people poorer
>tfw too dumb to understand liberal economics

it's called the Pareto principle

You're labor output is more or less constant, but the more capital you have the more you ""make"" thus it's exponential

youtube.com/watch?v=Wlv9gKcnLGk

Where does the pareto principle come from? It has no theoretical underpinning. Just like Moore's Law

what's your point? that it's hard for poor people to take the same risks that rich people can take?

A company that produces shit should be paid well. The engineers should make more than wall street criminals. It's not that way though. You're against the wrong thing and your idea is retarded. End wall street deregulation and lower corporate taxes for manufacturing and REAL services in America. The wealth is owned by jew bankers. The CEO of Boeing used to be top engineers climbing the ladder. Now it's jew bean counters and they're falling apart. Get yourself sorted out you angry little retard.

No. We demand that the Revenue Act of 1913 be repealed entirely. We trust private citizens to spend their own wealth far more wisely than the state.

I always see these threads and I just want to ask. If voting Republicans is voting against their economic interests, then how would voting Democrat be in their economic interest then? Would Democrats create high paying, labor jobs by the hundreds of thousands so that the low earning can get better jobs? How would they go about doing this?

Or are you just saying that Democrats would help the poor by taxing middle to high class workers to high heaven to help pay for the poor, creating more poor in the process? Cause I'm a middle class worker, working hard NOT to be poor.

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like evolution, it's an observed phenomenon that can only be "observed" after the fact. there's no way to predict evolution (bubonic plague immunities, for example), but evolution explains it.

pareto is the same; you can't predict who or how, but it's pretty consistent that 20% will own 80% of the wealth.

if you are living off the fat taxpayer subsidies, you have to expect that at some point you will fall off the gravy train. the real problem lies in the fact the state is paying any money at all into what should be private sector ventures while simultaneously not doing things that it is constitutionally required to do (ie protect the border)

This. I'm climbing out of poverty and it's fucking hard as shit when i'm taxed to eyeballs because i'm self employed.
IMO they just want everyone to strap themselves with debt and become a slave to the jew banks. Look at how many people are now employed by a bank and work in manufacturing compared to say 1960.

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I'll tell you why OP, because as Americans we can say whatever the fuck we want, unlike the Eurocucks who can't say shit or they go to jail if they criticize their Islamic oppressors. Europe is lost and btw eurocuck, we are FULL>

Like marx your observations are somewhat true but your conclusions are wrong

Wealth is concentrated and it's easier to make money when you already have some but you make two flaws

1. You assume malicious intent on the part of the rich
2. You assume this is a perm want situation

Factually individuals move in and out of the wealthy class all the time, and it isn't the result of malicious intent just rational self interest and quite frankly many rich people are simply lore capable than poor.

And even with how "unfair" our system is modern market capitalism provides more wealth and better living than any system humans have yet lived under, your average person in the west today lives at a level almost nobody in human history has ever lived

And hundreds of millions of people in Asia, Africa and Latin America have been risen out of poverty due to capatlist principles in the last 20 years or so

You can rage about capitalism all you want but it's the best we got so far

>inv4 communism

It's been tried and it sucks and is more unequal

you assume the government is infallible and incorruptible when it comes to distributing money. Wrong and sage. Look at what happened to social security, they spent it all.

trick question. no politician is capable of creating jobs.

murderers don't get to claim that they created life when they decide not to murder someone.

trust me, with that one we are better off.

but my Uncle still gets it, 1800 a month. Y lie??

kleptokrats go hand in hand with big state and big financial. in America you get to choose between two. the fact that we seem to arguing about them being different is a joke, they are the same. until someone gets in there with balls of steel and a plan to dismantle the beast nothing will change, and all of this red versus blue is just wasted keystrokes. it is the illusion of dichotomy being produced by the kike behind the curtain.

because they dream that one day they'll be rich and they covet the liberties and power of the rich