Without resorting to memeing such as "he's a leftist so he deserves it" or shit like that

Without resorting to memeing such as "he's a leftist so he deserves it" or shit like that,

Justify this.

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>Has to rely on donations for something he doesn't have the money to pay for rather than the government forcing people to pay for it
>This is a bad thing

did they save money for healthcare? did they purchase health insurance? do they have a job that provides healthcare benefits?

sounds like an indictment on obamacare

Americans are simply retarded when it comes to healthcare cause of mug freedom so they allow insurance companies and big business to rape them.

Simple as that

Justify what? His lies?

Portland is in Oregon, Oregon had/has OHP - one of the most stable public healthcare systems in the US. So either he is a richfag and refused to buy insurance because it will never happen to him, or a poorfag that was too lazy to sign up for the free gimmes. Either way he is a retard.

We can have a better healthcare system if the people realized health insurance is a boomer scam and needs to go.

COMMUNISM

Seems like a fine use of the free market

I have health insurance because I know that catastrophic illness and injury can happen, and it would be devastating.

I also know that nobody is going to swoop in to save me. I am responsible for myself and my family.

The person stabbed did not prepare for the possibility, either out of arrogance or stupidity.

It is not my responsibility to care for him -- It is his responsibility to care for himself.

Righto.

I though it was because the happy sue culture of Americans forced their doctors to become robots who can only do diagnosis when they did every study available even if it's not practical.

it's this scam of "insurance" that is ruining healthcare

The dude should've thought about that before he got into it with a homicidal maniac.

I do believe we spend more per capita on healthcare than socialized nations. The health insurance industry makes sure that money goes to waste.

>dont purchase health insurance
>thing happens that requires health insurance

>guy decides to jump into crazy person's way as he is berating people on the subway
>crazy person is grabbed and tackled for yelling mean things
>crazy person, being crazy, responds to physical assault with retard strength and a knife
>kills 2 beta defenders, 1 in critical but stable condition
>this super liberal person didn't sign up for obamacare, doesn't opt into OHP which would have gotten him catastrophic coverage
>wants government to sweep in and pay for his poor decisions to start a fight with a whackjob on a train

No.

No one has a right to health care, food, clothes etc.
Why does this guy think private charity is a disgraceful? I bet if he gets the money he needs, he is not gonna conclude that Americans are compassionate people who help the people they think deserve it. He would be insulted that the state isn't paying for it.
The root of a lot of our problems are these things people have convinced themselves are rights, like social security, which is used to justify immigration regardless of quality.
News flash: social security is doomed to collapse, and if you import thousands of Mohammeds you are just gonna break down the communal trust and feeling that makes shit like gofundme work. You think Abdul is gonna pay for your surgery?
>muh retirement
People are too softhearted now. They want to abolish death and sickness for everyone, even those unable to sustain themselves.

If you want healthcare to cost less and be affordable, you have to start by getting rid of this institution

Bingo

you are supposed to save for emergencies so that you can pay them yourself

but people want to consume as much and as fast as they can and have security at the same time

people have this entitlement mentality where they think the government is supposed to provide everything for them, and then forget that this is going to only benefit parasytes who suck tax payer money

so why aren't we in favor of single payer health insurance??

>complain about things
>do nothing but have politicians try to fix it

Why don't you become a surgeon and increase the supply relative to demand, you god damn cunt.

I'm starting to not care much for left leaning people.

Socialized healthcare wouldn't work in america, way too many nogs and spics. Of course, this is not an acceptable reason to dislike it, so they go on about muh freedom and actually believe it. Public healthcare is a must for any homogeneous, united developed nation. The social gains make the unavoidable economic inefficiency worth it.
>Muh libertarianism
Stop.

This, is basically single payer, but voluntary and on a case to case basis, i think its perfect, crowdfunded healthcare

Taxes could also work like that, a voluntary honor system, and crowdfund individual projects like infrastructure, pf course that instead of regular taxes, no sales tax, no income tax, just crowdfund

Am i an ancap now?

>universal healthcare is a left v right issue
>the right automatically dislike universal healthcare because thats what the right does
>Sup Forums burgers are almost exclusivly right leaning and therefore echo the talking point
>Sup Forums burgers also believe they are independent minded

agreed

Especially a homocidal maniac trying to kill Muslim women. I'd have taken the knife from him and done the stabbing myself, not turn it against him.

yeah you really have the formula figured out man

The guy has a GoFund me.... Problem solved.

we kind of don't. for other nations, administration of healthcare is considered a cost of government, so it is not included when calculating how much is spent per capita. if you factor this cost in, it's actually on par with US spending. i'm in an MHA program and had an entire lecture about this and the lie the europe and japan spend so little on healthcare. japan basically owes $2 for every $1 it spends on healthcare, and with their shrinking population shit is going to hit the fan soon.
insurance ruining healthcare is so true. it's not insurance if it's paying for every little thing. US should remove the employee/healthcare connection, start promoting HSAs, and remove the artificial state lines reducing where companies can compete. those three things alone would drastically reduce costs

Sounds like he should have been more protective of his health. ...considering he had to choose to be uninsured....but yet his bill will be paid....further proof that ACA is a joke ripoff.

Human rights are a social construct.

> America spends more per capita on healthcare than socialised healthcare nations
> Americans will defend getting raped by (((insurance companies)))
> Americans will gobble up the "not muh responsibility" argument despite the fact you already pay for government services you don't use that much
> Americans will defend the "job creators" meme

You guys are eternally cucked

Sounds like horseshit.

First off, I am one of those lucky fuckers in the 25% tax bracket that has the privilege of actually writing a check to the US Treasury on tax day, so I can listen to a bunch of burger flippers and Bernie neets complain about muh gibs.

Second, muh healthcare is a meme. There is no such thing as "healthcare". What people are talking about is medicine and medical services. When someone says "free healthcare" what they really want is free medicine and medical staff to work for them for free. Commies.

In America, anyone going to an ER is treated regardless of ability to pay (in other words, I get to pay for it).

If you want medical treatment, someone is going to have to pay for it. Either you, your employer, or the gobment. If this neet doesn't have medical insurance, then he should be on welfare and signed up for medicade. It is that simple.

The whole fucking "cant pay for my healthcare" is bs. Yes, you can pay for it if you stop buying a new iPhone, craft beer, fairtrade free range sustainable locally sourced organic small batch coffee, and $10 avocado toast.

>the supply relative to demand
But then you would need a higher percentage of people NOT bitching about burritos and puta games and films and stuffing drugs up their arses and all of the other trash American Brats get baited by the government into doing. So of course you are going to need a centrally planned everything provided via the government.

Why doesn't he have the legally required medical insurance?

because there is nothing in the constitution that allows the federal government to do such a thing
states can do it if they want idgaf
Cali and Mass already do their own thing

>ancap

This spic gets it.

He's a leftist so he deserves it. Not even memeing.

He should get health insurance.

yay someone gets it

Most states have a violent crime victim fund that pays for medical expense and compensation for lost time at work he could use.

he's right you know. people now have the right to donate, no obligations, that does make america the best country in the world

>muh doctor shortage may may
federal government keeps the number of physicians artificially low user

>#MAGA
>sucking Saudi dick for the lulz instead

the problem is the healthcare monopoly bureaucracy thats spending most of its money on life extension of 90yo's
theres nothing capitalist about the healthcare system so theres no point in letting private corps reap the benefits

Look ay moldy locks, clanton, or any of the rest. As soon as they get famous for being a SAW they all create GoFund accounts.
Moldy locks for something like $60k for getting punched in the face and claiming she had hospital bills she couldn't afford.
We have terms for things like this here.
>dipshit just won the nigger lottery.

>waah, charity is making socialism unnecessary!

Isn't the NHS failing?...

>Put yourself at risk for harm
>"Wow dude I have to pay for my medical expenses! I'm a hero!"
No dude, you're a normal fag just like the rest of us, welcome to the world bud.

>Says something provocative
>provides no reasoning on how that is or evidence

>didn't bother to ask the hospital for a waiver to cut down the fee dramatically
>will probably end up using the gofundme on shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the bills
and idiots will give them money anyway

this twink should delete that tweet

If this face doesn't scream cuck I don't know what does.

This. Or he's lying about the whole thing to get free money and demonize GOP.

You know with Trumpcare all young people will get a $2,000 dollar refundable tax credit (i.e. free money) to use on health insurance.

So he's still expecting others to pay his hospital bill, instead of doing it himself...

He doesn't have health care because he didn't want it. Pretty simple.

>snark
>sarcasm
>irony
>penis
>vaginas
>butts

Is this all the manchild left has on their minds?

why should people be forced to pay for the stupidity of a white knight?
you don't see me fighting crime wearing a mask and requesting the government to finance me

This is actually a good point.
99.999% of hospitals will dramatically reduce the price of procedures if you just fucking ask.

Their pricing structures are nebulous at best and completely made up on the fly at worst. There are many times where they'll run tests that were unnecessary then just waive the cost because you didn't ask for it in the first place.

the "muh freedom" era in US healthcare ended in the 1920s

the AMA has been strangling the supply of physicians ever since

the fact that the guy that killed those cucks was white and hated muslims will only give leftists more ammo for their whining.

I saw some spic saying that trump supporters are worse than ISIS and hundreds of similar sentiments in a news thread about it on kikebook

>Am i an ancap now?

No, you're still just a moron.

99% of GoFundMe pages are a scam everyone uses it to rip of bleeding heart idiots and if they don't take advantage of their local public outrage event a scammer will for them.

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i'm sure you'll figure out how the internet works one day

Except there are millions that can't and whose problems aren't as colorul to get a single dollar through such sites

It's a fucked up system

>When your wait times are lower than the rest of the 1st world..
>..because people have to decide whether to go into crippling debt to get healthy or stay injured.

>Socialized healthcare wouldn't work in america, way too many nogs and spics.

/thread.

Should have called the police instead of playing Superman, that way everything would have been taken care by the tax payers.

They need to extract the most possible from anybody with insurance in order to cover cost from non-paying patients

If he's so wounded how did he have time to set up a GoFundMe? Checkmate, atheists. Just another scam for the goyim.

Unless you're dying of a terminal illness, medical costs aren't even that bad. I'd rather have to pay for my own medical care a couple times a year than have to pay higher taxes all year.

Man i really hope it was worth shilling for people that murder our children.The reason why the US cant have a real health care system like Switzerland is because of rent seeking 3rd worlders sucking the white hosts dry.So...Justified.Anything else left Schlomo ?

>allow insurance companies and big business to rape them
Actually, getting our government involved is why we are getting raped.

>muslim states allegiance to ISIS and kills 50 people at a nightclub
>mental health problem
>insane white supremacist tries to kill muslims
>domestic terrorism

Oregon has had public health coverage for over 20 years but soon after it was created so many scumbags moved to Oregon to get it they restricted it and a single white man who does not get in trouble could not get on

>allowing people to voluntarily and directly donate to some cuck with similar beliefs to theirs is worse than expanding daddy government and using a gun to forcefully take cash from everyone all the while taking a bit off the top at every bureaucratic step in the least efficient manner

That's much better than forcing others to pay. You wouldn't say user?

Socialised healthcare is good if it's only given to those who actually need it. However, no social policy ever is limited to just the people who need it. Not because of leeches, but because your government is willing to cite any excuse to take more taxes out of your pockets.

Here in Germany, nearly everyone is forced to rely on state healthcare. You can get private insurance, but there are limits on it - you can only get off the state insurance if you're an above average earner. What sick logic is that? It's simple: Given the choice, Germans would prefer private over state, even though it's basically twice as expensive. Medical workers in Germany are fleeing this shit system to places like the USA, where you have the power to escape the state from meddling in your business. It always ends up in a fucked system that only exists to max out taxes. The government doesn't give a fuck about you, it's your money they're after.

know how to defend yourself when african american white supremacists attack. stop being a victim!

That only worked because it was a public case, no one will pay for another person apendectomy.

Bla bla bla niggers, the problem they have with health care it's the cost of it, if the goverment had to pay for the current market value of health in america it will go bankrupt, anyone will, the costs are so excesivelly inflated that are beyond the average citizen.

America's economy depend on people buying shit, if they save all their money to properly pay for their medical insurance, they won't have enough money to buy shit and the economy would simple collapse, cause rich doctors aren't going store from store buying every little thing.

Turn off the tap before you mop the floor, anons.

Jews are the brains, money and media coverage behind the anti white movement. White self haters are the muscle that protects the non whites. (Think about when the National Guard force integrated Mississippi. Think about all the Cops who enforce white displacement that lower class whites don't want.)

If you do anything other than take the fight to Jews and white self haters, you are not fighting the cause of the disease that is multi racialism. You are fighting the symptom of the disease that is multi racialism. To do anything other than remove Jews and white self haters from positions of authority and influence is to do the anti white movement a huge favor. You provide them with not only a massive propaganda victory, you also take the troublesome children off their hands. That frees them up to be much more effective in fighting you.

TLDR: Jews are the primary target. White self haters are the secondary target. Anything else before those two does the anti whites a huge favor.

if he had a job it could help with expenses

>save money for Healthcare
>Hospital bills racking up to 60-70k

I bet you think if people stopped buying iphones they could afford Healthcare as well

>the two dead libcucks are being "hailed as heroes"

Lel for what? Standing up to the big bad racist? Look at this cuck

>Has to rely on donations for something he doesn't have the money to pay for rather than the government forcing people to pay for it

With all your expenses combined, you ameriniggers are paying more taxes than us. You wish someone was forced to pay for it, cuck.

Maybe he shouldn't fuck with dudes with knives if he couldn't afford to get stabbed.

Obamacare has been law for 5 years now I want the IRS to audit this guy and make sure he didn't lie on his taxes saying he had medical insurance.

Yeah because things are so much better in your country bong

>look, free healthcare!
>but your government is consuming 60 percent of the national inc-
>OI YA WANKER I SAID IT'S FREE

>people who need it
>need

That is the problem. It seems everyone "needs" someone else to pay for their medical needs.

There is no "health" in "healthcare". They are talking about medicine and medical providers. Most disease and injury are the result of bad decisions.

Niggers get into a gun fight, somehow now the govt has pay for their medical attention. 300lb lard ass expects someone else to pay for their beatis, dialysis, knee replacement, and that little scooter they roll around on.

True socialized medicine would be like best Korea. All of the people in the projects would have to wake up every morning, exercise, and eat the govt provided food. Ever see a fat nork?

>a fucking deutsche-LARPer

It's pretty funny when there was talk of PP being defunded, all the leftists chipped in to fund it, then used that as a way to say "take that Republicans" when in reality it just proved that PP doesn't need public funding

Liberals struggle with irony though

If you have health insurance, that isnt a thing

>if the goverment had to pay for the current market value of health in america it will go bankrupt

I don't know the fiscal intricacies of America too well. I can only refer to what I know. For example, I know the quality of German medical services can never play in the same league as US equivalents. It's especially embarrassing because German medical engineering is top notch and would dominate the world if it weren't for our horrendous welfare state.

it's impossible to justify because it's the way it is from leftist economic policies

> t. train stabber.

He got his throat cut, so he ain't singing now.

He was a proud white man, Sup Forums have told that they aren't the problem, why should I distrust them?

He couldn't talk so maybe it was a confusion.

But still you don't have people randomly dying in the streets, you don't have mug victims bleeding out and a bunch of other things americans take for granted, don't you think millions of people would rather have slightly inferior medical equipment, if they could actually afford being treated?

so is it a bad thing that people are willing to charitably give to help another human being out?

>The whole fucking "cant pay for my healthcare" is bs. Yes, you can pay for it if you stop buying a new iPhone, craft beer, fairtrade free range sustainable locally sourced organic small batch coffee, and $10 avocado toast.

You are currently disconnected from the current state of poor and middle class Americans if you truly believe this statement.

I do none of those things, and had I not had insurance, I would have had the option of either forking over 36k (which I didn't have available) for the night my wife spent at the hospital for getting mauled by a dog so badly that she required surgery, or filing for medical bankruptcy and putting the bill on you instead (which is irresponsible).