Will the US ever have universal healthcare?

Is it an impossible pipe dream at this point considering the state of our healthcare system?

Nigger do you even have a future?

>Americans spend the most on healthcare but doesn't have the best healthcare system

Why

Because we don't pay the most for healthcare.
Taxes count towards paying for healthcare.

Therefore we pay less since I don't pay taxes for healthcare.
Nor is my healthcare even that expensive.
Less than 60 dollars a month.

Barring a total reset of the American system and psyche to pre-LBJ standards, it is pretty much inevitable.

What are you talking about?
> Taxes count towards paying for healthcare
Fucking obviously, and people here spend more privately than they would in taxes in pretty much any other country.
The whole entangled mess, overcomplicated legal regulations that aren't designed well, regulations of the medical industry itself that make it not particularly transparent, the fact that companies aren't allowed to compete across state lines, Americans being incredibly fat, unhealthy, and violent, just lots of things in general really.

>the fact that companies aren't allowed to compete across state lines

So what happens if it was a totally unregulated market?

having universal HC doesn't mean its good coverage. If your measure for good insurance is by the number of people covered then there is something wrong. what the fuck do I know im just some white guy on Sup Forums

Totally unregulated market won't happen and is very bad because it increases information asymmetry, the important part is regulating smartly where it makes sense, like allowing customers to more effectively shop accurately, and de-regulating where it isn't needed or increases inefficiency. If healthcare weren't influenced by heavy lobbying from certain syndicates that work together against consumer interests like doctors and pharmaceuticals than we probably would have drastically decreased costs, albeit not as low as a country like the Netherlands, just because they have a healthier and higher-quality population overall demographically.

Universal healthcare is literally communism and Hitler therefore it will never happen

>the fact that companies aren't allowed to compete across state lines
Even if they were allowed, they wouldn't.

Each state would still have its own regulations making setting up a network of doctors across multiple jurisdictions a complete nightmare.

You'd have to forcibly deregulate healthcare at the state level and then regulate it at the federal level to create parity before companies would even consider multistate networks.

Unless you guys want to pay a huge hike in taxes, nope.

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There would actually be a net mean saving of money though. It would be like paying 5% more in taxes to increase your disposable income by 8-15%. I'm not using exact numbers but that's a similar example.

I don't know what kinda rates you guys are paying, but for example, in the UK National Insurance (that covers part of the NHS these days, I think 75%?) is around 9%-12% of your wage, on top of your 20% or so tax. And the NHS is underfunded. And a bit crap.

Insurance =! healthcare you dolt

it's a misnomer and it's not a dream you fucking piece of shit commie shill
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>Each state would still have its own regulations making setting up a network of doctors across multiple jurisdictions a complete nightmare.

I'm surprised to hear this is the case, so you're saying that a qualified doctor from California can't practice medicine in Texas for example?

Summer Shill

What's wrong with universal healthcare? It doesn't always even have to be government-provided or anything, look at the Netherlands' system, they aren't communist/NatSoc at all.

California will soon
400 Billion $ cost
The entite state's revenue is 200 Bl.
FREE!

i hope not

Only if you want to pay for it.

Whenever the government says it will cover the costs of something, immediately said thing rises in cost exponentially.

Take tuition for example. Federal government says it will cover loans for school. Magically the next day schools start jacking tuition in to the stratosphere because they can, there's no free market to stop it.

This is why medications skyrocket in the US too, because Medicare or some other Gov law says they cover the price of X, now X will inflate in price.

If you had 'universal' healthcare you'd be paying out the ass for it like we do in Canada. Quality of service would also plummet because then it becomes a numbers game, as the gov has fixed prices for procedures so the only way doctors can make money is to keep booking new appointments for everything. You can no longer go to a doctor with X and Y concern you can only address X per visit.

Preventative care also disappears under universal systems because there's no money in it. Instead private clinics pop up and offer $2k "comprehensive health examinations" to people who have cash or get it covered through third-party insurance through their employers.

tl;dr be careful what you wish for