Sup Forums communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=Rh-4gsDjAKg
youtube.com/watch?v=zZ7cHBFuKCc
youtube.com/watch?v=-Z0yhw5Xt7M
youtu.be/eDvSrMnL-8M
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/
gommies.gom/ohfugme/
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
youtube.com/watch?v=VK4lJt5w1MU
youtube.com/watch?v=X7MtydR-fiI
foreignpolicyblogs.com/2009/11/03/better-red-than-unfed-a-survey-of-post-communism/
youtube.com/watch?v=dbZXFjIzzzc
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

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Real shit though. Why in the hell do you think this would ever work?

>Victims of Communism

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Joseph Stalin is 5x worse than Hitler.

MUERETE DE UNA PUTA VEZ HIJO DE LA GRANDÍSIMA PUTA Y DEJA DE HACER ESTOS PUTOS THERADS DE MIERDA

Taxation is theft

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Hey Sup Forums,my apologizes for this retard,this butthurt always post this shit because the good side won the spanish civil war

Lol fag

bullshit
youtube.com/watch?v=Rh-4gsDjAKg

That's why Marxist-Leninist states did their best to lower taxes

Ignore the deaths plz! Look at this industrialization! Mao and Stalin dindu nuffin!

>Using capitalist products to sperg about capitalism

Commies never change

Well yeah, lowered taxes as a whole by killing millions, kind of the wrong way of going about lowering taxes, but yeah. I see your point

>It's all a capitalist conspiracy!
I'm not watching this fag lol

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Your image is as retarded as you are

Communism was always about leeching whatever capitalism produced and giving it to everyone because we wuz workers we want!!!
Even Marx's original thoughts were that a society must be first capitalist so the proletariat can steal, ahem, redistribute... the wealth produced by capitalism

youtube.com/watch?v=zZ7cHBFuKCc

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Don't be a tard.

youtube.com/watch?v=-Z0yhw5Xt7M

thread theme:
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

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Communism Doesn't Work.
Communism Has Never Worked.
Communism Will Never Work.
Communism Doesn't Work.

But... But.. Shhhh! Communism. Doesn't. Work.

these aren't wrong

thank you

>implying capitalists are human

When are we going to start discussing the issues that REALLY matter in these threads?

No, at that point they just classify their trust fund as personal property instead of private property so they can still be a faggot, but pretend they aren't a hypocrite.

>meanwhile Communist blame their own death on communism when they send many to death in work camps.

Pedro, every time when you cucks got burrowed into dept you start sucking on socialism and drain money from loans - start working already enough siesta

(((Ganowicz)))

lol meant to spell capitalism, I guess only see communist as slavers and murderers that they are.

>sperging this hard over polish names

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>implying the thing on the right isn't a dirty crossdressing commie

Today just so happen to be Maurice Bishop's birthday
youtube.com/watch?v=VK4lJt5w1MU

youtube.com/watch?v=X7MtydR-fiI

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>this lie again
CIA fabrictated history isn't what really happened my friend

is a libertard pseudo-leftist

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It actually has unusually high test levels for a leftist. You should be proud to claim it.

What's your opinion on the Shining Path?

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dead commies aesthetic

Serious question, /com/

I tried starting a thread about this, but got zero replies, posting it verbatim

Sup Forums, hear me out, I have an idiotic theory.

What if all this gender-queer-transsexual-racial-feminist bullcrap was artificially created and nurtured by (((them))) to divert us from the true conflict of our society - the class conflict. Now with gender/queer/identity politics the higher class can continue to enjoy lawish lifestyle and accumulate wealth, with morons on facebook preocupied with arguments about bathrooms.

What if (((they))) can use these diversions up untill the technological singularity, which will happen in 15-20 years anyways. And when it happens, they can employ technology to directly control the public anyways.


I am pretty sure Karl Marx said something about the (((higher class))) spurring nationalism/racism/antisemitism to do exactly the same trick back in the 19 century

I thought Nazbols supported Strasser, Rohm, and Goebbels

When did you post it? Right now is a good time because the amerikiddies are out of school and the yurokiddies haven't gotten tucked in for bed yet.

Problem pinko shitter?

I don't you understand, people here don't like the ideology in general.

Your idea is that identity doesn't exist outside of class? That any conflict outside of class conflict is created by them? In-group preferences don't exist?

Anti-Communist memes go here.

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1) Well, the idea that (they) create conflicts is an extreme oversimplification ofcourse. I don't argue that they literally manage such conflicts.
2) I don't claim that identites do not exist, not at all! it's a psychological thingie, people identify themselves as Americans, or gays, or transsexual, or appache attack helicopter.
3) My point, i guess, is this. I remembered that Marx said something along these lines: nationalism/anti-semitism is usefull for the higher class, because it diverts people's attention. They see enemies in jews/germans/whatever, while their real enemies are the elite.
What I am trying to say here is, that to me this identity/queer politics is just so ridiculous, with people arguing about bathroom use, that I kinda think that the elite is actually fueling this debate of feminism vs. non-feminism, or LGBTQTRETEHFD vs everyone, because it's useful. It's artificially fueled, while (they) continue to get richer, and also wait for the singularity

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I'll just leave you this here.
foreignpolicyblogs.com/2009/11/03/better-red-than-unfed-a-survey-of-post-communism/

>their real enemies are the elite
Not the invading horde or the liberal communists that let them it?

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>Sup Forums communism general
>both sides autisticlly sperg memes at each other for hours
>why

>liberals, conservatives
pro-property, pro-market, pro-capitalism
>communists
anti-property, anti-market, anti-capitalism

It's like your arch nemesis has more in common with you than you'd thunk.

Consider myself a different communist then.
What do u think (((Stalin))) would think of liberal communists' ideology?

You want to steal my toothbrush?
No?
In what way are you anti-property then?

There's a difference b/w personal property (toothbrush) and private property (factories, workplaces, land).

I don't want your toothbrush as long as I have mine.
But the moment you forcibly take my toothbrash away, and leave me penniless so I can't buy another one, and you've never used YOUR toothbrush (otherwise it would be gross) I'll take yours, sure

I have yet to see new information posted to this site in years. It is the same thing, over and over and over. Why should I bother to argue things I have already worn out? It is exactly like that hitler quote where he talks about even when you get them to admit they are wrong, the next day they come back and pretend nothing happened, starting all over again.

At least memes are funny.

you have your arbitrary line and they have theirs.

I am also communist and like most of us communists we despise the feminists and sjws however unfortunately they just join because they like us think that there are multiple flaws with capitalism

It's not arbitrary at all. One holds social value and is involved in the reproduction of the social whole (factories, farms), the other holds individual value (my clothing) and has no social worth in the former sense. This is a distinction made by economists and it makes perfect sense.

It's been a while, the 'tism meds wear off?

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one day you'll grow up and get a job, it's just a matter of time

Can we have a good conversation about communism for once guys?

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Sure, tell me what it means for the people to own the means of production. No platitudes, rhetoric or sloganeering either.

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Ceausescu was a tard. Probably yugos, GDR and hungarians had it best.

kys
youtube.com/watch?v=dbZXFjIzzzc

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beautiful

>When you live in a false dichotomy fantasy land where the only choices are bolshevism and capitalism

The problem is trusting those doing the revolution. A similarity can be done to the actual capilalistic system, where clearly they act for they own interest and not in favor of the population.

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