Why was America able to become a super power after ww2 but Russia stayed a second world nation?

why was America able to become a super power after ww2 but Russia stayed a second world nation?

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Communism.

yes but that can't be the only reason

Cause Russians dont wave their dick at everyone saying look how much I paid for my shitty GM. They make a comparable product for less. Youre considered a superpower because you over spend on your military. You don't meed a 100k missile to kill 13 sandal wearing taliban squatting on the side of a mountain.

Chase the dollar user. Your whole military is a money laundering operation.

Second World is just the designation for the Comintern nations.

America is not a nation it is just a country.

>ywn be that snowglobe

does Russia even have a domestic car company?

Well Russia was way more wrecked than the USA. Large parts of the country were in ruins and they didn't get any Yanke money like western Europe. Also communism.

Yeah. Several. Cars are shit though, but their military hardware is reliable and gets shit done.

looks outdated to me

? Russia was a superpower.

large parts of western Europe were also in ruins, we even gave them rebuilding bux

>Russia was a superpower.

Until Ronald Reagan exposed them as a flimsy paper tiger. They had nukes and hyped up their army's capabilities, that's about it.

Yea. If you read my comment I mentioned that. Russia didn't get any rebuilding bux.

That's because Google search uses Newspeak instead of English.

but they absorbed eastern europe, pretty fair trade

Don't want to get some outdated toughts.

Yup. its called Lada

They had a nuclear powered bomber.
Something the US never did make work due to the weight of shielding.

The Russian solution was to remove the shielding put it in an warehouse then... leave it there.

jews

Slavs went down the collectivist way, while US went into individualism. Collectivism may make you happy, but it will not make you successful or rich.

Oh please, America couldn't even beat bunch of Rice Farmers in Vietnam.

they didnt snatch up all the nazi scientists.

Pfff, why? It's literally the only difference. USSR was fucked even before WW2 by the same exact communism.

This. Most of those western European countries and Sweden would be blue by now.

Russia up until the 80s was doing rather well--it's just that the rest of the USSR satellite nations weren't so lucky. Russia basically drained them of money, resources, etc until there was nothing left to drain. The commiebux then ran out and the communist system started to collapse upon itself. We look at Russian infrastructure nowadays and believe that it has always been in a shithole, but when it hasn't been maintained very well since the late 70s, it's obviously going to fall into disrepair.

You criminals lost to birds lol.

It doesn't help absorbing other countries that are also (half)wrecked from the war, no matter how much Moscow would be getting from the labour of the attached states - it's still a system that is rotten to the core and was never made to succeed. People keep blaming ((Russians)) for pretty much everything during Soviet times whilst forgetting that the average Russian didn't have a dreamy life at all - it wasn't just the Balts and others who suffered. Basically - the elite had it all. Everyone else had vodka and pickles.

The dissolution of the USSR was just a topping on the shitcake that the average Russian had to eat for the past century due to gommunism. Nobody was willing to understand or help a people whose values, morale and pretty much everything else had been systematically destroyed for over 70 years. Think about this, man..

Russia was badly damaged by the war, while the US wasn't. Russia is a frozen and mostly land-locked country, the US isn't. Russia was and is surrounded by potential competitors, while the US only had Canada and Mexico to concern them. Russia dumped a greater ratio of money into the military, which meant their long-term growth was significantly reduced.

And it turns out central planning doesn't work well in the long run. Especially when the leadership turns into a gerontocracy.

They actually did snatch quite a few, but they didn't get famous, since they "disappeared" in secret science labs called "sharashka". USSR kept it's scientific achievements a state property instead of making it a privately owned patent. It stiffled the innovation. Welcome to socialism.

>Collectivism may make you happy
Something must have went wrong with me then.

you faggots couldnt even get rid of a few lousy emus.
and im tired of this old meme.
if we lost because they backed out, so did you.

>russia is mostly land locked

No worries. Mommy will rescue Mother Russia. She is the hero we need

Yes, its basically mechanical constructor cars that are fairly easy assembly due to lack of integrated electronics and advanced mechanical parts. It's fucking 50 yo technology but it suits Russians because they love tinkering with that shit full time. AND NO CRUMPLE ZONE keeps the population level

May is not "will". Collectivism makes individualists unhappy, while bestowing boons on the Omega bottoms and Beta cucks.

post ww2 USSR was a super power you dumb fucking nigger.

America was THE only country in the world with an intact industrial complex. Russia had a few factories in the ural mountains. The rest of the west was a charred wasteland. Japan was recovering from nuclear and firebombed desolation. The turd world didn't have any industry to start with

America had ~57% of the global GDP in the fifties.

>Oh please, America couldn't even beat bunch of Rice Farmers in Vietnam.

Yeah because they couldn't tell the difference between the gooks and kept creating new insurgents. Plus they shouldn't have been there in the first place, it wasn't their war. If Vietnam was a serious threat to the US, they could've just dropped daisy cutters and napalmed the entire area. Guerrilla warfare in a jungle they knew better, was the US weakness

mummy is ukrainaian actually

About 80% of the Russian population lives in the European part. The rest are frozen wasteland.

>China suffered greatly
>China has less access to sea
>China has less fertile land per capital then Russia

Say what, bitch? The only difference is that China went full capitalism much earlier

She is probably Ethnic Russian who lived in Ukrainian.

Mommy is Russian ethnicity and became Russian Citizen in 2914. She can run in 2024. Based Mommy too good for evil neonazi facist country like Ukraine

ethnic polish akshually

Russia's economy actually grew at about the same rate as the USA's for something like 2-3 decades.

The USA was just so far ahead to begin with. Our GDP was half of the combined world GDP by the end of WW2.

European part is not land locked though. Baltic Sea, Black sea, North Ocean, lots and lots of rivers like Neva, Volga, Ob, Enisey, Moskva-reka, Don.

Just go fuck yourself already, mate. You ate too much communist shit for breakfast.

Communism and Snow

theyre not famous here. most people ive talked to, didnt even know we did.
only famous one is von braun and thats just on Sup Forums.
anywhere to read up on sharashka? or is there just creepypasta lol.

USSR stole our nuke sekrets which we stole from Germany. Most rocket technology was developed by Germans too

There's also the matter of the Soviet Union losing more of its people than all of the other Allied powers combined.

People still use 1st 2nd and 3rd world incorrectly?

1st world nation
Allied with america/nato after WW2

2nd world
allied with USSR after WW2

3rd world
Did not ally with either or did not exist

Russia was on a war footing for the entire Cold War, (45% of economy going to military spending). US blocked Soviet colonialism b/c of Domino Theory.

Price setting in the non-military part of the economy meant prices could not convey information about what to produce. (Hayek)

1 - Lots of immigrants working really hard to make money (which in turn makes the country rich) - the "American dream"

2 - Lots of refugee jews with lots of crazy efficient ideas on how to make money (which also makes a country rich) - also following the "American dream"

tl;dr: lots of people materializing the "American dream"

Pull up a chair, son...

You can start here russianhistoryblog.org/2011/03/the-sharashka-phenomenon/

I think that people like Einstein and Von Braun had tens of scientists with them taken from Germany. I would imagine all countries would just have put someone native in charge of a research that has been conducted by the "liberated" or by "refugees"

It lost mindless drones though. Their total level of education and productivity was on the same level as their combat efficiency

Yeah, I know, but to steal secrets you need someone to make sense of them. Those people were the ones "liberated" from the Nazi.

Why would you ask such a retarded question? Did you switch from asking about why millennials do or don't do "x"?

Because Russia had a bolshevik revolution that destroyed their religion and their will.

I just wanted to post mummy pics ok

Google what first second and third world actually mean.

Anyway the answer to what you're looking for is communism

Ok youngster Von Braun is known much farther and wider than Sup Forums and perhaps it's just a generational thing but most Americans were VERY aware of how many Nazi rocket scientists we took over.

Yes but they could have recovered if production was more efficient, people were better able to innovate on old tech, and trade was better. Those were commie problems.

Her new haircut is so cute.

>calling her cute

Fucking retarded question...first world implies US and its allies NATO/ANZUS, second world implies ussr and Warsaw Pact buddies... third world are the unaffiliated. That's fucking it. It was a shit way of describing the Cold War political climate.

She is SUPER cute okay shutup.

Totally different starting positions + communism.

If you want to make an argument for 'muh free market's' consider Nial Ferguson's assessment of north America vs south America.

What the fuck do they teach you kids in school these days.

mum is growing hair out again

That is the only reason. Part of the definition of 2nd world country is that it is communistic.

fpbp

Tfw Russia has longest, international land borders and not considered land locked

Soviet Government discouraged smart and innovative people while encouraging conformist dullards.

Why so mad, leaf? Our military might is the guarantor of your sovereignty. Hopefully you won't sell it to China. In that case said military would be forced to roll north and annex. Although there are a fair number of Canadians that would like that anyway, so maybe that's the plan? Anyhow, don't be mad. :(

around 1500 were supposedly taken. it wasnt just scientists either, there were engineers, technicians, probably whatever they could find honestly.

Because the west defined first second and third world
Second world literally means Russia and anything like Russia

>So much thirst in this thread.

Because we fucked with Soviet Russias ego and made them waste their entire capital on a space race, when we stole the technology from the Nazi's in the late 40's.

Faggots bankrupted themselves and their government fell apart.

I bet she smells like vanilla :3