Why did American got btfo so hard by some asian farmers?

Why did American got btfo so hard by some asian farmers?

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Ideological subversion

The Gooks were Campers, and the USA got sick of playing.

because the US army is filled with manlets

They didn't just lose Vietnam, they caused the Camodian genocide by stupid bombing tactics and created the Khmer Rouge and caused over 2 million deaths

Why did French got BTFO so hard by some goatfuckers.

The viet cong were willing to fight at a loss, a severe one at that, something like ten to one and in a protracted war of attrition. The war of the weak is fought in a altogether different manner. the political climate in america, being bogged down in drawn out guerrilla war, made continuing war a increasingly unattractive option.

The soldiers had an ideological disconnect from this war. If they don't want to be there at all, compared to something like WW2, it's going to have a major effect

The French caused Cambodia mate

cause they don't know how to war

They didn't

They basically won, but crying hearts of libruls got them recalled. If there were no internal subversion in the US vietcong could not stall at the peace talk, and would have to capitulate.

You know who got btfo'd bu those exact same asian farmers?

Cause rules of war.

Didn't those same farmers beat the hell out of the French first?

You think that's bad, the Chinese got their asses kicked by the leftovers.

Goal of the war was to keep South Vietnam independent

South Vietnam was independent when Americans left

here's the best part
>United States lost in Vietnam almost 2,300 aircraft, helicopters and 578 UAVs (554 over Vietnam and 24 over China).
>South Vietnam's army lost 2,500 aircraft and helicopters, excluding number of UAVs (incluld 1,018 aircraft and helicopters lost from January 1964 until September 1973
>North Vietnam lost 150-200 aircraft and helicopters.

Because they had to treat asian farmers as civilians until they weren't. Even then, the US ultimately kicked ass.

The major problem with the war was not military capacity, but internal political forces within the United States.

That's the problem with democracy.

You realise the Vietnam War started in part because France got BTFO in Vietnam right?

>what is first Indochina war.
Didn't the French also get btfo by viet?

It is well known that kissinger created the khmer rouge to overthrow the monarchy and used the illegal invasion to radicalize the farmers to join them. Stop making shit up.

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Yes, it was in Indochine.

Oh I don't know, maybe because the Vietnamese farmers knew how to make these

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They literally cucked themselves and gave up on their ally because of some baby boomers protesting.

Quick history lesson for people who might not be aware:

During WW2 the US provided material and training to the Viet Minh, supporting their guerrilla war against the Japanese. Ho Chi Minh at this time was very pro-US, not only because we supported him against the Japs but because we were truely ideologically aligned. Minh was a big fan of the Constitution and the idea of natural rights, and even quoted the Declaration of Independence when he declared that the people of Vietnam would not suffer foreign rule but would fight for their self determination. This was all well and good until the war ended and France wanted Indochina back.

So, instead of supporting a true ally, a nation that had fought a war against a foreign oppressor in the name of freedom and self rule, we ditched Ho as a favor to the French so they'd play ball with US in Europe. Charles de Gaulle was notorious for antagonizing NATO and promoting French self-sufficiency. Not necessarily a bad thing for the leader of a nation to do but it didn't exactly help present a united Western front against the Soviets.

So we sold Ho's country out from under his people and he was rightfully pissed. When the French came back the Viet Minh, now very skilled in unconventional war due to years of fighting the Japanese, continued their underground war. With US aid cut off due to geopolitical realities, Minh went shopping for foreign aid and found a very willing donor in the Soviet Union. This is where Minh went Communist, because they (ironically) were the only people willing to help him liberate his people.

The 1st Indochina War culminated in the Battle of Dien Ben Phu, where very shitty tactical decisions by the commander of the main French military installation in Vietnam led to the total defeat of French forces and the overthrow of Colonial rule.

At this point the country was partitioned between the Communist (damn shame) North and the Southern republic, which was led by Emperor Bao Dai.

Bao Die was a puppet leader installed by the Japanese and had abdicated the throne at the end of WW2. In 1949 the French asked him to serve as the head of state of their Indochina colony and he was happy to resume the role. He spent most of his time travelling outside of Vietnam and living a playboy lifestyle, and was very unpopular with the people of his country. After the end of the 1st Indochina war he served as the leader of South Vietnam.

Dai was eventually deposed by Ngo Dinh Diem via fraudulent referendum. Diem was a staunch catholic and anticomminust who ruled with a heavy hand and many of his religious policies did not sit well with the mostly Buddhist populace. This further deteriorated the already-unstable situation in the South and Diem was eventually overthrown and assassinated via a CIA-backed coup, with rule transferring to a military junta.

This is the point where JFK dies and LBJ becomes president. A false attack known as the Gulf of Tonkin Incident occurse, in which a US Navy ship was claimed to be attacked by North Vietnamese PT boats. This claim is patently false and many high level officials have since admitted it. It served as a foil to invade Vietnam in the same way 9/11 served as a foil to begin the Middle Eastern War.

That pretty much covers it in terms of background, after Tonkin came the mass deployment of US troops and the rest is history. To think, all of this could have been avoided if the frogs would have been able to keep their hands to themselves.....

Check the casualties for the VC and compare it to American casualties. The South Vietnamese lost and the Americans gave up on helping them.

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> be France
> get involved in Vietnam
> get btfo
> ask for help
> USA sends weapons
> get btfo
> ask for more weapons
> USA sends tanks and shit
> get btfo
> ask USA for more weapons and some troops
> get btfo
> ask USA for more troops
> ask for more troops while quietly having most of your troops flee
> do this until US troops outnumber French troops
> "uhh, hey. yeah you guys got this, r-right? we give up, we're going home."
> go make crepes or something
> get wilfully taken over by muslims
> go on Sup Forums, start thread about Vietnam
Do you even history? No. That's why you open your window and smell curry.

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They won in strict military terms however they lost politically and thats the true determining factor in victory

all this could be avoided if burgers minded their own damn business

for claiming to be the world police, you all sure are the biggest modern day terrorists yet

Because America sucks at waging war. Their army is shit. They can't even win against a few 3rd world sandniggers. Look at Afghanistan, it's literally Taliban-country thanks to the power of FREEDUMZ.

> be France
> get involved in Vietnam
> get btfo
> ask for help
> USA sends weapons
> get btfo
> ask for more weapons
> USA sends tanks and shit
> get btfo
> ask USA for more weapons and some troops
> get btfo
> ask USA for more troops
> ask for more troops while quietly having most of your troops flee
> do this until US troops outnumber French troops
> "uhh, hey. yeah you guys got this, r-right? we give up, we're going home."
> go make crepes or something

>US kills 3 million
>loses 60k
>"war is so bad we shouldnt fight, pull out now" -faggot hippies and frenchmen


> US pulls out
> "y u lose war lol?"- faggot hippies and frenchmen