"I have already spoken to three US presidents. They come and go, but politics stays the same at all times. Do you know why? Because of the powerful bureaucracy. When a person is elected, they may have some ideas. Then people with briefcases arrive, well dressed, wearing dark suits, just like mine, except for the red tie, since they wear black or dark blue ones. These people start explaining how things are done. And instantly, everything changes. This is what happens with every administration."
He isn't wrong. The US never steered off course when it comes to Russia, same old Cold War era views. Every reset failed, despite the presidents being initially optimistic about it.
Ian Bailey
I hope Putin Wins the Trumpbowl
Fuck the EU
Hunter Davis
HOL UP SO WHATCHU SAYIN IZ WE FINNA ZAP U?
Adrian Wright
Putin's mad our beaurocracy won't let him roll over ukraine, donbas, and the baltic states? boohoo
Hunter Cook
It's not the FBI, obviously. They're there to take focus away from the people who really run the system, the CIA.
Cooper Thompson
they are representatives of the elite class. we ive in ancap society and the rich got you(unwashed masses) by the balls. THE RICH HAVE THEIR PRIVATE MAFIA (governament)
Ryan Murphy
Yawn
Evan Ross
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Woodrow Wilson
Bentley Anderson
That interview was a good read. Thanks for posting it here
Hunter Barnes
Nothings changed since his time, eh?
Michael Hernandez
he is joking, but there is a kernel of truth in that joke
there's a government within the government
this sub-government is a by-product of a system where advisors and outside affiliates often do more to influence things than the governors themselves
all the rich old family assholes, mega upper echelon business tycoons, and spook-connected defense contractor conglomerate bosses are in on it
if the president does shit that they don't want him to do, the president gets reminded of certain things
no one really knows what those reminders are, but they're what kept every president since WW2 on a nice centrist course even after they all talked so fucking much about how they would change shit (see: obama, trump)
i would never want to be the president because the president no longer has power
checks and balances have failed us and now hold us hostage to a system controlled by special interests
we need to burn it all down and install a fucking king
Luis Butler
Exacly. Men in black=deep state
Ayden Gutierrez
I guess not. That was also a time of massive change for the US, away from its roots.
Austin Jackson
If the United States collapsed I'm almost certain most governments would revert back to some type of monarchy or merchant republic.
Gavin Hughes
CIA faggots basicly
Connor Evans
This is true. Look at the WW quote alongside some of the Putin stuff from the interview and it is patently clear that Democracy under a the yoke of modern capitalism is a failure. Elections are pointless. Those who really rule do not appear on any election day ballot papers
Nicholas Kelly
Deus Ex had this all figured out years ago.
Leo Wright
crazy how the cia didn't exist until trump was elected.
Evan Bennett
PUTIN BTFO.
lol thought having a stooge in the white house would help him control america. Dumb ass didn't realize we have separation of powers. and checks and balances lmfao
hopefully that's what this is about and not him trying to stir unrest and galvanize people in the direction of his own line.
Would that be weird or what?
Landon Thomas
He's absolutely correct. The more research I do on the intelligence organizations' history in the US the more certain of this I am. Makes sense that it would become like this given you get a new administration every four or eight years. (They) stay for life unless they are fired or voluntarily quit or die.
Oliver Young
Tbh neither Trump nor Obama promised to tear down the governmemt. Obama promised healthcare which he somehow managed and Trump promised a wall which will probably we built. Neither of those two things are really dangerous to the elite.
Liam Thomas
Your meme is so low energy Shoo Shoo memes goblin
Liam Lewis
But the show sure fools the general idiot and keeps them busy with their rah rah nonsense.
Daniel Allen
American Council of Families
Jonathan Gutierrez
>the guy to the right
Xavier Perez
>The US never steered off course when it comes to Russia Why should we have, what would we have gained?
Gavin Gray
Will Smith?
Gavin Wilson
Seems plausible that Putin expected a new day with Trump in office only to find it's just the same old shit with different packaging.
Leo Gonzalez
>Clash royal OUT
Brayden Harris
What are we gaining by fighting with them other than a bunch of defense contractors making billions?
Cameron Price
what would you identify as the ideological reasons behind, or the events interfering with, the rapprochement in 2008/2009?
Bentley Cruz
WTF is wrong with these Liberal memes They do terrible memes
Nolan Lewis
Not getting cockblocked in Syria, not getting vetoes on your UNSC resolutions, economic cooperation in the energy field, etc. It was doomed to fail, by 2008 Russia was fed up with putting in the effort to approach the West and get nothing in return, which happened on and off in the 90s and 00s. But more importantly, the core differences were never settled (NATO enlargement, ABM shield, US influence in post-Soviet states). The US was never committed to integrate Russia to a degree that we would be able to let these things slide, even when we rolled over and only ceded influence.
maybe he'll take out a page in the NY times and deliver a message to the people lol
Anthony Davis
Fuck him, he sold the country to International Finance. On Christmas Eve, no less. I hope he's burning in hell.
Jeremiah Wilson
DELETE THIS
Owen Cox
>Install a King
Yes, let's give one person absolute power so the deep state has power over literally everybody.
Because they can't influence a King right? Don't be fucking daft.
Jonathan Rodriguez
They've had a firm grip ever since his death. I don't even think it's Israel, I'd say they're a pawn too.
Christopher Ward
This. I see Russia and Putin as bro tier, oh well see you on the battlefield Ivan
Landon Bell
It's not that ghastly Moriarty fellow, is it?
Mason Bell
They'd have no leverage over a king. We'd just have to be careful not to install kraut royalty like Britain did.
Ian James
Can we please ban faggots that do this?
Gavin Rivera
>No leverage over a king
A king isn't some magical untouchable being. A king has a family. A king has friends. A king has hopes and dreams. A king can be killed. A king is human, just like the rest of us. The difference is?He stands alone against a horde of fucks trying to take him out.
When you have actual modern ruling systems it's a lot more complicated since there's a lot more people you have to keep in check.
1 person is weak. 1 person is nothing.
Brandon Roberts
Is there an argument in your post? Perhaps you want another chance to make your argument more coherent.
Justin Sanders
Are you retarded? You said they have no leverage over a king, he just gave you multiple examples contrary to that. Kings generally didn't have absolute control even back in their heyday, they were also controlled by advisers and such. Not like this is a new thing that just started happening, there were always puppets and puppet masters.
Josiah Butler
Without supporting the idea of some Illuminati or Brain Trust or whatever, he isn't wrong.
A new president doesnt mean much. Your day to day won't change for you and me. One or two policies might trickle down and affect you slightly. It affects the ultra elites the most.
Nathaniel Price
NAME THEM
Easton Morris
Non-trolling question: how would anyone expect it to be any different? Can anyone here name a politician that made it to President knowing everything a president knows before he got there? Do any of you not understand the scope and effect of state secrets (even the legitimate ones)? How could a person actually formulate a plan of action and then adhere to it when the circumstances for execution change, potentially very drastically, when the full picture is received at the time for action? Not trying to make excuses for deep-state fuckery here, but even on a good day in honest terms the logic here is flawed. Putin never dealt with the deep state treatment because he was ex KGB. He IS the deep state in his country.
Caleb Morgan
His examples are ludicrous. Their leverage is that they can kill the king or his family? There's a much higher bar to removal of power for a king than there is for an elected official. That he has to be killed to be removed is an advantage.
He still has to maneuver politically to accomplish his aims, but he isn't beholden to campaign donors, nor does he fall prey to short term economic trends.
There are disadvantages to having a king, but you cunts aren't articulating them.
Nathaniel Fisher
The aliens want a one world government, this is why everything in the world is irresistibly going in that direction.
Cooper Adams
Generally more power came from people around the king. Religious advisers for example tended to hold much more power as they could easily make the king out to be a heretic and everyone would go against him. Then you have other influences from other nobles that had various levels of control, just like now. King was a figurehead, no different than a president now.
Jack Cook
We have had alien visitors for a long time. President Eisenhower signed a treaty with them. It allows them to run tests on humans. In exchange for that we are given advanced technology. The world is a much darker place then most people can ever imagine.
Connor Brown
Do you?
All you have said is "they can't do anything to dur king hurr"
What is stopping them from influencing a king? Can you tell me? They're just as vulnerable as the rest of us. If they can influence every leader ever since 1945 than what makes a king different?
Angel Lewis
yeah john, we know
Jackson Hill
they collect stem cells and are adapting their DNA to this world with ours. children have the most. the only way they can survive here
Brody Jackson
Rip in pace
Eli Reyes
Back to /x/
Isaac Bailey
jews have a lot of the alien DNA which is not alien but old humans that were here before the cataclysm. they're not aliens and use temples and underground caverns to control humans because the sun burns them now our planet has been changed since the cataclysm
Michael Sanders
>Kings have no power over than God over them
W-what? So if a King's family is threatened, or his friends, or his life, he won't back down? Once again, don't be fucking daft.
Nathan Green
more like radiation. but they give us tech for sacrifces of blood of the young which gves them valuable stem cells to go to the surface
Nicholas Harris
kings have God over them. No powers of men. The kings don't have special interest groups powers over them, they merely have some royals and nobles around them.
Hunter James
>The world is a much darker place then most people can ever imagine. The pedophile Podesta can't stop talking about aliens. He has a difficult time giving any straight answers on whether we are being visited or not.
I don't believe in alien shit but I believe what he says. That's why literally every election the politicians have these grand ideas but the moment they are put into office they change on a dime.
Chase Martin
I remember Jesse Venture talking about this going back to when he was governor.