Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
>give me your redpills /leftypol/ Specifically, the work you do is always worth more than what you are paid, because the capitalist can sell whatever it is you produce for more than you were paid in wages. The productive forces of our society are controlled by a tiny elite instead of by the people, so what ends up happening is that millions of proles sweat their lives away while the porky bastards windsurf in Hawaii. To put it in terms you might be more familiar with, capitalists are the ultimate welfare queens. >my stance on hatred of jews and niggers will never change. To say that your position on any topic will never change is to declare yourself to be beyond reason. That said, those "jews" and "evil niggers" are your natural allies regardless of what you think about them, because they are being exploited just like you are. The leftist position on racism is as much about pragmatism as it is about a commitment to equality.
The basic gist is that capitalism is inherintly broken. Companies want to make as much money as possible which means paying works the smallest amount possible. Eventually workers can't afford to buy things, meaning the whole system collapses. Currently with automation we are going to see a huge loss of jobs that will make the concept of full employment obsolete - so who is going to buy things? Communism isn't some grand fucking conspiracy about race or western civilization - its just a question of economics.
Nathan King
nice quads, James
but we did a) manipulate Germany into not attacking us (in part by the help of our royal family), b) spy on them for the Aliies, and c) get some sick trade deals with Germany for profit
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Aiden Rivera
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
> They pay a catalonian to spam these threads, daily. > Ironically, it's a thread about communism.
Shareblue niggers need to leave.
Jack Lewis
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Mason Reyes
oh boy another commie thread
Henry Taylor
Are bullets spooks too?
Elijah Thomas
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society >Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished,
How do you propose this happens? Having read the Communist Manifesto, the procedure seems flawed at a fundamental level; >Marx's ten-step plan consolidates control over everything and everyone into the hands of the state >revolutionary vanguard overthrows the state, seizes the means of production >bolsheviks wield now effectively absolute power >bolsheviks must now voluntarily surrender this power to the body politic and dissolve themselves to achieve True Communism This literally never fucking happens in practice.
Jack Parker
>when your ideology is so shit you have to force everyone to accept it
Jace James
I have a question.
What do you guys think of Trotsky losing his shit over Western gradualists like the Fabian Society for not being revolutionaries & the progress the Fabians have made since his death? (welfare state, labor parties, tax payer funded healthcare, demonization of business', infiltrating Labour Unions etc)
> Specifically, the work you do is always worth more than what you are paid, because the capitalist can sell whatever it is you produce for more than you were paid in wages.
...and I can sell my house for more than it cost to build it down the track & then someone can then sell it for even more than I sold it later on.
Dylan Bell
Computerized planned economy is the way to go, we must continue what the soviet union should have done before collapsing.
Benjamin Parker
Another victory for the working class!
Brandon Mitchell
>Computerized planned economy is the way to go I might be inclined to agree with that, with the caveat that it's also the only way for communism to be even remotely viable; you need the quantum supercomputing to simulate the billions of interactions taking place in the economy. You didn't actually answer my question, though.
Jace Murphy
>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
People keep saying this, but it never happens.
Chase Gonzalez
>comrades >you are the only one who is posting this shit thread
It is time to let go
Gavin Long
>Computerized
How do you get around Arrows Impossibility Theorem?
Nathaniel Nelson
Is that Leorio?
Ethan Thompson
Are you commies prepared to kill me? Because I will never accept communism.
I will either overtly oppose it, in which case you will have to kill me. Or I will covertly oppose it, sabotaging you at every turn, and you will have to catch me and kill me.
I will not be taken prisoner alive. I will fight the commies and your cohorts until I am dead.
And there are millions like me.
Can you take us all?
We have the will. We have the balls. We have the guns and ammo and are steeped in this resistance shit from the time we are in diapers.
Do you limpwristed commie sacks of shit want to test us?
I seriously pray that you do. I am fucking itching for you Marxist perverts to line up in the streets and march to my doorstep. I swear to baby Jesus it will be Lexington and Concord and Fort Sumpter set off at once.
Please oh please try to start your pissant bolshevik revolution in my city I am begging you.
Robert Fisher
Both communism and national socialism have failed before replacing G_D with a human figure will always lead to disaster it has happen before it will happen again theres only one true path
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Gabriel Turner
The system designed by the vanguard party must absolutely guarantee the dissolution of the state over time and must protect itself from corruption, once set up there got to be mechanisms to avoid some corrupted member of the party to modify the system in his own interest. I think this is the key to make it possible ,and then, you will have a gradual change of a socialist society aided with supercomputers into communism. As crazy as it all can sound there were examples like cybersyn working in practical cases like a truck strike, there are algorithms to democratically vote in order to decide what needs to be produced, etc. The internet is already everywhere, people have computers in their pockets and there is promising advances in technology with benefits that we just need to re-target to make them in the service of society rather than in the service of capital.
