90,000 cargo ships facilitate global shipping

>90,000 cargo ships facilitate global shipping
>1 maersk vessel emits 50,000,000 times more pollution than a car, annually
Buying domestic reduces fewer emissions importing. Globalism is literally destroying the planet

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These should run on nuclear reactors like submarines

But then Somali pirates could jack a nuclear reactor

A car cannot drive 160 Dead Weight Tons through the pacific,

This. Container ships should be banned like Incandescent light bulbs and plasma TVs.

Put a CIWS at the bow and stern, problem solved.

165,000 DWT

Are you retarded? Cargo ships carry immensely higher weights when compared to submarines or aircraft carriers (which also use nuclear reactors).

>wannabe state scum
the whole point this fag is making is that with Nationalism in mind and keeping products predominantly domestic, there wouldnt be a need for shipping across the Pacific

Just let the boats defend themselves, and sink those water rats.

a million cars could.

My thoughts exactly. Hehe fact that there is no movement to do just that shows you just how concerned with carbon emmmissions and global warming the elites are.

We need 100% tariff on the EU now!

>civilians owning guns
You overdosed on Emu milk m8.

>Sevmorput is a Russian nuclear-powered icebreaking LASH carrier and container ship.

Nuclear reactor have larger carbon footprint.

Corporations can do whatever the fuck they want, are you living in the same world I am?

Could easily have a fail safe to flood it with salt water, would basically gut the reactor.

We should flood the jewbook with memes on this idea. Get the norm it's screaming about the things that ring them iphones. I'm sure the greenness could be brought to purpose without there realizing it,

>civilians owning guns
>problem
It's really not bad unless you forget to wear body armor on the way to class.

because it's not feasible you dumbfuck

Nimitz class displaces about 100k tons at full load, capesize ships go over 200k tons

No they can't.
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>bin that knife!

We should flood the jewbook with memes on this idea. Get the norm it's screaming about the things that bring them iphones. I'm sure the greenness could be brought to purpose without there realizing it,

So put 2 reactors on it then?

>it's illegal to protect yourself

If any faggot tried to arrest me for protecting myself, I'd proceed to protect myself.

Those were "vigilantes", not an integrated weapons system on a coporations ship.

Nimitz has two reactors

for fucks sake do you guys actually know anything or do you just parrot random shit that comes to your head

so 3 reactors then?

More convinced by the lad OP here than by any jew funded "climatologist"

Fug that, how much pollution does a ship shipping ship emit?

more is always better

MOL Triumph
Installed power: 82 MW

Nimitz-class
194 MW

Look at this guy actually looking up numbers instead of just talking out of his ass. You're a wild man, you know that?

>Those were "vigilantes",
They were PMC working as guards on ships. Now they are shit eaters in some Indian jail.

>integrated weapons system on a coporations ship.
Guns are guns and will bring same weapon charges.

Relax, the container lines are scrapping some of their overcapacity as we speak.
>90,000 cargo ships
There are only about 5k active container ships which tend to be as large as won't run aground on their routes. A lot of oil ships are just parked as floating storage.
>has never heard of a power law distribution

????
No they dont. Where the hell did you hear that insane lie?

Paid vigilantes, then.
Good riddance to that whole industry.

Get out of my country, bootlicker.

The logic is undeniable.

Also, there was a nuclear powered merchant vessel in the 60's from the US called USA Savanah. It was more a cruise ship than merchant so it didn't have as much cargo space, and pretty oil crisis it wasn't cost effective. But after the oil price skyrocketed it would have been competitive if it where in service. And if it where optimized for space and benefited from economyou of scale it could be competitive today as well.

Our russian friend is right, skippy. Give up.

>implying goods and services don't decrease with globalism
>implying more efficient methods of transporting goods won't be invented

>bootlicker
If the police won't protect you, maybe you're not worth protecting. In fact, let's double down and call the merc industry what it is: treason.

They're actually not that much heavier than a carrier, and they don't need to go as fast. I really don't think that weight is the reason why civilian ships (outside of icebreakers) avoid nuclear power like the plague

What's a more efficient way to get large amounts of shit across the ocean than using big ass ships? Bigger ass ships? A fucking hole through the planet?

Finally an intelligent post about the real causes of pollution. BTW - the reason why they emit so much pollution is because the fuel they use is literal oil sludge. It's so dense and crude that they literally have to heat it up inside the tank so that the engine can use it : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_oil

Meanwhile these faggots are parading around some fancy ass climate change bill as they continue to produce shit in unregulated countries dumping waste into the ocean and shipping it around the world on cancer barges.

Whats wrong with mercenaries?

Mercenaries fight for cash
US soldiers fight for gibs and free college.
I fail to see a difference, cept maybe the mercs are a little more honest about there motivation.

No, nuclear power is an enemy of mother nature.

Mercenaries break the law and are enemies of the Constitution. Therefore, treason, therefore, torture them to death in a prison camp.

This is an awesome idea, but have you ever met some of the people that work on these ships?

Are these ship shipping more ship?

Autonomous wind sailed ships.

>Globalism is literally destroying the planet

yeah no shit. If government actually cared about climat they would be pushing for people to make community gardens instead of buying all their food from superduper marts who haul 80% of the shit from halfway around the world.
Or they would be trying to make companies make higher quality stuff instead of cheepo garbage that breaks every other month. I swear i buy headphones every year because they break from regular use but the ones my dad had in the 70s are still fine.

As it is you can actually get in trouble for making your useless lawn into a garden and trying to be self sufficient if city haul feels it makes your place look worse and lowers property prices.

Everythings fucked

It only sounds intelligent until you think about the numbers. While there are quite a few giant ships in the world, there are many millions of times more cars out there.

Are you high?

city hall even

Wind ship need a ton of repairs, in the end they will pollute far more.

>yeah no shit. If government actually cared about climat they would be pushing for people to make community gardens instead of buying all their food from superduper marts who haul 80% of the shit from halfway around the world.
b-but that's socialism! If you're not dependent upon some feudal lord to be starved as a means of moral instruction, you're a commie!
Are you a high-value target or do you just work in the industry?

It barely makes a dent, Satan trips.

Consider the following: disposal by scuttling into the Marianas Trench reduces the carbon footprint of the nuclear reactor significantly.

This is a great point

outsourcing to China and other policies promoted by the Paris Accord are in fact increasing the amount of Carbon emissions.

The only way to actually decrease carbon emissions would be for western populations to domestically produce their own energy and do so in a way that funded technological improvement.

But you can't really do that when your entire economy is based on outsourcing every job possible to Chinese sweatshop labor.

So yet again Globalists find themselves in a pickle

If they support globalism that means supporting more carbon emissions from asia and CHina

They they reject globalism and try to limit carbon emissions they aren't being very good globalists/neoliberals since domestic protectionism raises wages for labor(which is bad)

They're in a lose/lose situation.

>literal oil sludge
The real question is if an abbo huffs it will he reach dreamland?

Nah, I just like laughing at you while you think you're begging the question at every step of your argument.

so your suggesting globalism is whats causing the pollution...not me driving my PZEV vehicle and running energy efficient lights pc/tv?

Huehuehuehuehue

This is /nupol/ and this is what we do.

Run the numbers yourself w.r.t to what global production and shipping does to the environment.
(((I'll wait)))

Also, w.r.t to cars, you fail to acknowledge the natural efficiency baked into a competitive market : pewtrusts.org/~/media/legacy/uploadedimages/peg/publications/fact_sheet/clenfueleconomychart650jpg.jpg

There are no rules places on shot barges shipping products across the ocean thus why they use the cheapest, shittiest, and most polluting fuel they can get their hands on.

Further, as fuel prices rise, technology will naturally produce a more efficient product. You don't need subsidies or laws to force it. Just let the market sort itself out. When gas hits $5/$6 a gallon for regular unleaded, there will be solutions just as there are for any market.

Meanwhile, in mexico, they use the shittiest and cheapest cars they can find as they have no regulations. Meanwhile in India.

The US has regulations. Has been a good steward of the environment and is one of the top innovators in green technology. All we need to do is export and sell it.

Pretty much exactly what trump said in his speech and its the truth.

>enemy
>sun bombards our planet with more nuclear energy than we could ever produce.

Can we take a minute to appreciate how fucking huge that ship is. Human innovation is wonderful.

WHY CAN'T WE PUT A CARBON TAX ON THESE SHIPS?

In less than 500 pico seconds w/ no return trip ticket.

Hence why OP said buy domestic.

What's on those ships? Is it more ships?

It's pretty simple math

The only reason corporations outsource to China is because Chinks work for pennies and live in cages.

The only reason we have all these ships running 24/7 burning fossil fuels is because of said outsourcing.

Instead of just investing in technological improvements to cut emissions the "solution" in the Paris Agreement is to shut down even more industry in the west, which at least tries to cut emissions and move production to China where no one gives a fuck about anything especially health and safety.

yes goyim, just wonderful.

Sun do a lot of think, including fusion, but this don't mean we can utilize it.

Not if you equip every vessel with a 20mm cannon.
Yes, just a cannon, don't need missiles. 1 shot is all it takes.

That picture is kind of ironic now that intel is now trying to one up on MOAR COARS

It's this sort of ignorance that retards technological improvements

You do realize that modern nuclear power plants can reuse spent fuel now right? We could, essentially power whole countries without any radioactive waste, if morons weren't so scared of progress.

Once every nation is invaded and used as a tax dodging heaven nothing is domestic.

This sort of ignorance make we lost resources in green energy and alternative power when we can improve nuclear fission, a make fusion or build solar in space.

Yes. More shipping ships.

I can't seem to find good numbers that measure it in a way that can be compared reasonably.

Regarding that chart though, it's awfully funny how closely the competitive market follows the government set fuel efficiency requirements. Passenger car requirements were 20 MPG in 1980, climbing to 27 by 1985, then staying roughly stagnant until 2011 when it jumps up to 30. Your graph goes higher than 30 and climbs before 2011, which is explained by the 2005-2011 rise in combined average car and truck average efficiency.

And yes, seeing how well regulation is working on car fuel efficiency, it sounds like it's time to regulate cargo ships.

only if youre using them to kill other americans...

>These should run on nuclear reactors like submarines

I'd imagine there's some pretty strict rules for private shpping to use nuclear materials/reactors

>nuclear power takes money away from muh solar panels

since when?

Nuclear Power has lost pretty much all financial backing while Solar panels get billions of dollars from everyone

You got me wrong, solar takes money away from nuclear.

>it's awfully funny how closely the competitive market follows the government set fuel efficiency requirements.
Who set those standards? The U.S as we always do. We are already stewards of the environment. Always have been vs. the rest of the world. Thus, we dont need to sign some foreign agreement to get our shit together. We already do and we already lead. If the rest of the world wants to follow, they can buy our tech through fair trade agreements which is what trump is saying.

>Passenger car requirements were 20 MPG in 1980, climbing to 27 by 1985, then staying roughly stagnant until 2011 when it jumps up to 30. Your graph goes higher than 30 and climbs before 2011, which is explained by the 2005-2011 rise in combined average car and truck average efficiency.

I'm glad you know how to read a chart and repeat it in words ;). Our regulations work.

> And yes, seeing how well regulation is working on car fuel efficiency, it sounds like it's time to regulate cargo ships.

Seems like you're starting to get it... Also, you can see why globalization is a dumb fucking inefficient idea and is at the heart of pollution.

When talking about marine propulsion you gotta keep in mind that energy requirements increase dramatically with speed. A cargo ship doesn't need to go 35+ knots so a huge reactor like on carriers would be useless on them. I'm fairly certain once it becomes economically viable we'll start seeing nuclear cargos show up.

That's the dumb part. Nuclear is actually competitive with fossil fuels on cost and capacity. It actually stands a chance of breaking our dependency on coal. Solar and wind are excellent auxiliary power sources but they'll never power a significant portion of the grid.

Did you know there are only ~75 United States flagged ships left in international trade?

50 years ago the US was the world's #1 shipping power.

Hopefully Der Fueher Trump will make American shipping great again.

> it makes much more sense to Jew the Sun than to Jew the Earth.

soon they will make ships so long they won't need to disembark to go to another continent :trollface: XDX

Also, they are in the process of making autonomous ships that will make professional mariners obsolete. Save me Herr Trump!

He's saying the opposite, but his English is about as good as my Portuguese.

that's a big ship

American cars are trash

Indians hate maritime security and common sense like turning around if they are given repeated warnings and warning shots as much as they hate toilets.

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>Those were "vigilantes", not an integrated weapons system on a coporations ship.

They were private military contractors providing security detail for cargo ship. Pic related is what happens when PMC's arrive in some ports after anti-piracy contract.

How many ships could a shipping ship ship if a shipping ship could ship ships?

Literally least polluting way to move stuff around. That ship moves more stuff around than those 50,000,000 cars.

for you

>Nuclear Power has lost pretty much all financial backing while Solar panels get billions of dollars from everyone

Because hippies are irrational as fuck. Real solution for clean energy would be thorium based nuclear reactors, that would also solve nuclear waste storage issue as breeder reactors and be also used as burners.