How come half of Europe has nationalised rail? How come our rail is run by nationalised foreign companies? How come the French govt owns stakes Peugeot, Renault EDF etc. Ever get the feeling you've been lied to and they just use the EU as a convenient excuse for everything?
Carter White
Reminder to not ignore that Islam is actually a problem
Aiden Myers
What do you all think of the evaporation of the promised Tory landslide? I'm torn
(a) Tories achieve a true landslide, politics realigns
(b) Tories get a small majority, the Blue Blairites denied the total victory they desired
Parker Ramirez
>UKIP WON'T WIN A SINGLE SE-
Josiah Rodriguez
I'm sure she'll look exactly the same as she does now when she loses in a weeks time m8.
Jace Rodriguez
watch "I, Daniel Blake" lads. It's important to britain
Alexander Phillips
>(a) Tories achieve a true landslide, politics realigns realigns to what?
Adrian Harris
Literally where?
Cooper Powell
Reminder: I told you guys exactly one month and one day ago to get into ETH whilst it was still at 80.
You could have made thousands from a relatively small amount if you had just listened.
Check the archive if you like. You didn't listen. All you had to do was listen.
t. 21 y/o, made more than £60k in one month
I'm literally house shopping this weekend
Daniel Wood
Who told you about that? >Muh bad Brit Rail >Muh bad union days. >Muh highest prices cos Wi-Fi and shiny train on some routes. >Muh Beeching was a God.
Also: >I own the rails. >The health >Your money >Your mum >Your bum
Christian Cox
got in at 40, fucking Kraken takes forever
Anthony Walker
You don't age much in less than a week lad.
Ryder Anderson
I will remember to not ignore
Jacob Richardson
like a wet bag of shite?
Andrew Ross
xth for turning britain into best korea.
Bentley Reed
If the Labour party dies, then the Tories will eventually split (as they no longer have a credible common foe) and the former Labourites will join the leftist faction. Then you might well get a proper Peter Hitchens political divide: social conservatives/patriots vs Blairites
David Cox
Gonna need context behind this one lad. I do think UKIP could win a few seats, but the problem is how rigged things are in favor of establishment parties.
James Cox
And yep i was agreeing with you in that post you reffed.
I have no idea how or why some of you un ironically support Labour. Its like what u even doin here?
Jonathan Young
>What we found most interesting is Duff's assertion that the Commission is already at work on a plan B that should follow a breakdown of negotiations. The options could range from a commercial pact under Art 207 TFEU to a full-blown association agreement under Art 217. Nor would a failure to agree an Art 50 deal preclude the possibility of the UK rejoining the EU under Art 49 later on. All these options would be more costly than an Art 50 agreement.
Reminder that we will be literally Ukraine tier thanks to Brexit.
William Nguyen
Fuck no. You have to move x amount of miles per week or w.e and the gov doesn't want people living like this and so make life difficult in all ways they can.
Politics naturally divides into two broad factions. It has happened so many times before: Cavalier vs Roundhead Exclusion vs Divine Right Reform vs Ultra-Tories Pro-corn law vs anti-corn law
etc.
If one faction dies, the surviving faction will always eventually split.
Nolan Roberts
fucking why
Wyatt Murphy
I think a centre party will form around the Libs, and left of the Tory centre and the right of the Labour party
Brayden Williams
>tfw no Strong and Stable leadership
Mason Evans
I'm voting Labour because I'm not a gullible faggot.
You're literally voting because someone made a meme and you thought it was funny... you're worse than a dumb lefty imo.
You're likely under 25, low pay job, no adequate housing, etc, and you aren't voting Labour? Fucking moronic.
Lincoln Nguyen
>>>/leftypol/
Jackson Rivera
That is true. But don't go house shopping. My pill to you: >House prices collapsing you'll be stuck in negative equity.
Any more tips user?
Caleb Kelly
Because you can't be a cog in the machine if you're off swanning down canals like some modern day hippie, can you?
Nolan Ward
Why didn't we do what every other country does and merely pretend to be following the rules? Like Hungary showed with the refugees, they can't do a fucking thing if we just don't listen. Just keep making money with our membership, who cares what they say. Our real immigration problem was the shitskins anyway.
Oliver King
This is the ultimate aim. If politics divides along the issues that truly matter (sovereignty, identity, social issues, immigration, multiculturalism), then people will have to choose one or the other. Judging by the British social attitudes surveys, they will broadly make the right choices.
Right now its just 'muh NHS' vs 'muh long term economic plan' memery
John Campbell
the UK is a fucking MESS. There hasn't been an actual lefty government in years
Christian Gomez
...
Camden Nguyen
Wait til house prices collapse further.
Logan Russell
could say the same about tory voters tbf
Nathan Young
>I'm voting Labour because I'm not a gullible faggot
I'm dying over here
tell me more about how Corbyn's proposed government will be able to fund their proposals, other than by plunging the UK into catastrophic debt and giving away the falklands and gibraltar.
Jason Rodriguez
>Why didn't we do what every other country does and merely pretend to be following the rules?
Because our two main political parties are rabidly Europhile?
Connor Peterson
You're right, in a way. Certainly not an old fashioned class-based leftist. The UK has been ruled by people who are economically centre-right but socially left for about 20 years
Carson Cook
>the UK is a fucking MESS. There hasn't been an actual lefty government in years
It could very easily be argued the same for the right. It depends entirely on how you wish to categorize which is left and right.
Brayden Sullivan
Until we get a party that lets us vote against the (((moneyed interests))) then we don't have a real choice.
Alexander Campbell
we need someone who is left economically but right socially
a,,, national socialist maybe
ashame a certain party ruined that label FOREVER in the west
Zachary Hall
>I'm voting Labour because I'm not a gullible faggot. >you're worse than a dumb lefty
user, I...
Zachary Jenkins
buy guns and vote ukip ARE NUTT will save the NHS and bLOW UP the EU
0 female genitals will be mutilated in the making of this government
Nolan Jones
It's the economy stupid! Socialism retards the economy someone has to pay for all that free shit. Don't tell me it's all be costed for, no one knows how many people will go for free uni. Corbyn is prepared to fuck brexit up and give those eu fucks what they want. And he doesn't want to set any limits on immigration. Why the fuck are you here?
Chase Stewart
Honestly I'm coming around to accelerationism. Part of me wishes that the result of the referendum had been rejected just so the British people would snap.
Jack Adams
Oh so all the other parties in all the other governments were eurosceptic? It's not like we're just a bunch of soft touch cucks is it?
Have you heard of Maurice Glassman's 'Blue Labour'? Or the writings of Phillip Blonde? If someone ran on their platform they'd sweep the country
Josiah Sullivan
>watch "I, Daniel Blake" lads. It's important to britain Yes, watch it. Watch it and see the victim mentality that these fucking people have. >Ring up a call centre looking for bennies >Proceed to get shirty with the minimum wage phone drone on the other end because you can't get her tax money quick enough This is the first few minutes of the film, and we're supposed to feel sorry for this main character. >Be single mum >Be late to bennies meeting because you couldn't be bothered to find out how to get there before the day of the meeting >Get sanctioned and scream at the Jobcentre employees while they try to help you Yeah, so hard done by. Zero personal responsibility. >Be single mum again >Decide to buy my kids some new clothes instead of food or electricity because they have to look good at their new school >End up pouring baked beans into your hand and eating like a pig in a food bank because you're too stupid to realise that THE FUCKING CAN IS ALREADY A CONTAINER AND BEAN DELIVERY DEVICE TAX THE RICH THIS ISN'T FAIR >Be skilled carpenter >Supposedly can't work because of heart attack He actually could and should work after a heart attack once he's home, but nevertheless... >Make furniture and ornaments competently >Give them to the aforementioned feckless single mother instead of selling on Etsy or eBay WHERE ARE MY BENNIES? There you go, you actually don't need to watch it.
Ryan Phillips
>Dad died in february >Grandmother (his mum) died a couple of days ago >inherited a bunch of money (not property) from both because of reasons >interest rates are shit >house prices are massively inflated
The fuck do I do with this? I can't just have it sitting around gathering dust.
Jackson Wood
Things we need:
Nationalised Rail Nationalised energy More industry
Other things we need:
Pietas Patriotic Values Immigrants assimilating
Gavin Harris
And a left wing gov will help how...?
Dylan Myers
We must end the defamation of Adolf Hitler
Nathan Nelson
The examples that you gave are, yes.
Jayden Ramirez
noice
Justin Hall
wow this actually sounds pretty good
why isn't this a thing?
Parker Scott
ideal party would be economically left, socially conservative but with acceptance of climate change and pro environmental policies
Julian Morris
You are not an economist.
Aaron Cruz
>>Give them to the aforementioned feckless single mother instead of selling on Etsy or eBay did you even understand the film?
Jacob Turner
You had Blair-like governments (notably Bill Clinton, Paul Keating) all throughout the western world at that time. Blair didn't ruin politics - Blair was made possible by a very mistaken zeitgeist which may have ended in 2016 (centre-right economics, globalism, multiculturalism, social leftism)
Carson Richardson
Buying and selling classic cars is a great way to make money. Fix a few minor things and your off. Unless you know fuck all about cars, then go for a mutual fund or someshit.
Jaxson Gonzalez
this should have more replies because it is true, the state of britpol
Daniel Miller
It sort of (sort of) is. People like Umunna have taken interest in his ideas, read his recent essay in the New Statseman. Glasman also met with May just before the election, irrc.
Owen Hernandez
corbyn will win, your shitty island will collapse and be partitioned
Brayden Anderson
I don't know. Why don't you tell me what you think it was about, friend?
Leo Taylor
Rude
Landon Young
Most of the core countries have simply ignored EU rules when it's suited them in the past. France is notorious for not giving a shit. We take rules too literally, other countries see them as vague suggestions or as challenges to reverse engineer and beat, F1 style.
Dylan Evans
literally this
why isn't this a thing
Luis Adams
>may have ended in 2016
Blake Lee
When is the debate?
Jordan Fisher
That's irrelevant, you don't need to be an economist to know socialism doesn't work. Look at Venezuela for fucks sake. Also pretty much every economist thinks cutting spending and taxes is good for an economy. So i don't know wtf your point was.
Brayden Cruz
Blair didn't ruin politics, he ruined the world.
Aiden Brown
Besides the environmental stuff. This sounds like my idea of a nightmare.
Jeremiah Thompson
France is infinitely more invested in the EU than we are despite having a very large % Eurosceptic electorate. They're not a good example just because they flout certain single market rules.
>We take rules too literally
Isn't this the whole argument about the EU vs common law though?
David Morgan
Change of this kind can takes ages and can often zigzag as the old order dies.
The French Revolution happened in 1789, the Bourbons were restored in 1815 - but would you deny that despite this 1789 set some profound ideological forces into motion?
Justin Cox
Good call. Shame I don't know shit about cars. My sister's ex-boyfriend used to do up classic cars. Pity it ended badly, that might have been handy.
James Wilson
So YouGov's new ((election model)) now has CON at 42 and LAB at 38.
A slightly higher lead than the one on May 30th, but still not enough for a majority.
Dominic Foster
Who's this pooftah?
Michael Foster
>It has been suggested that the name 'Blue Labour' came from a reaction to an opposite trend in the Conservative Party called Red Tory, but was also chosen to suggest a hint of sadness, nostalgia and loss.
Caleb Cox
he couldn't use technology and didn't know anything about the internet. do you realize that many people fit into a niche where they are only good at one thing? He was a good carpenter, and could have gone back to work if the government allowed him.
Blake Cooper
you buy ISAs
you want index-linked "passive" funds. Get and American tracker and a Global one.
passive is the key bit
Connor Ortiz
>but still not enough for a majority. good
Luke Harris
Mandelson
Jack Parker
Buy something expensive like a proper fancy ass camera that gives TV-quality footage and then rent that shit out for a couple hundred a pop through the companies that exist for this reason.
Obviously you'll need to check insurance and it'll take some time to recoup the initial payment, but if you can secure a good stream of clients then you'll break even soon enough and then it's profit all the way.
There are probably better ways, but some people with fancy stuff rent it out like that when they aren't using for some extra cash. Obviously make sure to look into this stuff first.
Ryan Hill
What result are you hoping for?
Cooper Scott
I've probably been here longer than you all, you stupid fucks.
Tell me more about how a Tory government will help you, yes, you...living at your mums because you can't afford rent, shit job because you can't afford training, shit prospects because you keep getting convinced to vote against your own interests under the guise of "controlling immigration", despite that having no chance of happening under any current party
