President Trump betrays NATO in speech

What the fuck, Sup Forums?

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as if this is Sup Forumss fault kek

NATO is just another globalist slush fund thats main goal is start war with Russia.

Good riddance I say

Oh no, not the pointless outdated neocon military alliance nobody gives a fuck about anymore

>The chinlet pushes his jaw out to make it appear he has a masculine chin.

>nobody gives a fuck about anymore
>Georgia, Ukraine, etc. beating down the door to join

>Part of his campaign was literally "Fuck NATO"
>People are shocked and upset that he doesn't give a shit about NATO

Why does the national security team care what he says? It's their job to protect his ass and nothing else.

can someone give me a quick rundown?

>>Georgia, Ukraine

oh, you mean the fake countries?

Around April I was kinda pissed off at Trump, especially with the Syria bullshit. But these past couple of weeks, he's really impressed me. I'd love for him to start gunning for Hillary like he promised, but still.

No regrets.

what's article 5 and why would trump not support it?

Georgia is based, Czczczczczczczczczczczczvakovic.

Of course they do, that tie-eating faggot who ran Georgia is now a regional governor in Ukraine.

Article 5 is where every country in NATO has to defend the other.

Meaning if Russia attacked Latvia, and Latvia invoked Article 5, the U.S. would be obligated to fight for them.

Mutual self defense. Attack on one is an attack on all etc.

>(((National Security Team)))

>not wanting to fund a globalist organization that actively seeks to undermine your own country's interests

God I love Trump.

Your president your problem

Based.

Good.
Fuck NATO.

Trump always said that he wouldn't support NATO if other members wouldn't pay up their fair share. He's just following through with his promises desu.
GLOBALIST BTFO

THIS IS WHY TRUMP IS AN IDIOT. HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT HE IS DOING. AT THE ELECTION WE SHOULD HAVE VOTED FOR TRUMP INSTEAD OF TRUMP, ATLEAST WE WOULD KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON THEN.

/thread

It's your problem dumb fuck.

(((Applebaum)))

Europe can defend itself since they are so smug

kek

Let's hope Germany doesn't go full reich on you guys again w/o Article 5 or it might be your problem.

Article 5 is bullshit. Does anyone actually believe the Euros would help us out if the US were attacked? They can't even keep mudslimes at bay, WTF good are they during an actual war. They're the only ones benefiting from Article 5, they expect us to fight their battles for them.

Your Muslims your problem

trump is not a smart man

what was article 5 about?

Just an excuse for our country to invade others for oil if they get "attacked".

But we already have the oil, so we don't need NATO anymore.

Why should he defend retards like mutti merkel who live high on the hog while not paying their fair share.

Well, many of them followed us into Afghanistan when we invoked it after 9/11...

Might be a bit more shocking if other counties actually kept their obligations as well

Ukraine will never be allowed to join NATO. They have disputed territories. If they join, the west will have to deal with the Russian rebels, which is a waste of time, and Crimea which is de-facto Russia. If they try anything in Crimea, it would trigger ww3.

>only proper military in NATO will stop supporting NATO
>means all the other members will have to start spending money on defense themselves or get gobbled up by ivan

that about right?
because that sound good.

but seriously go read up on her, she's a CFR globalist scum.

I'd settle for keeping NATO if we would kick the fucking Turks out.

Stoltenberg is photoshopped in this pic, right?

Sup Forums, can you refresh my memory, i vividly remember trolling her on twitter but i can't remember why. i think maybe it was brexit related or something. does someone else remember?

Germany (and all NATO members) should have to meet their military funding requirements or GTFO.

But we're not just talking about Merkel here... the Baltics, V4... lots of countries count on article 5, which would be fairly toothless without American support.

NATO is the only thing protecting the world from the new USSR, you edgy faggot.

>new USSR
Interesting name for the EU

how does NATO protect me from EU?

>NATO
You mean the US?

Nice try, kremlinshills, but Russia is the one wanting to revive USSR.

EU is retarded, but they have democracy and are not as despotic.

>pulls out of Climate Accord
>dips out on NATO

ooh noooo Europe's gonna have to pay and fend for their own shit, who's going to bankroll no progress shitty third world countries now??

It clearly doesn't, since you are running the show in the EU anyway. But Vlad might get a little aggressive if attacking NATO members no longer also means war with the US.

>(((Applebaum)))
Good to see she's still pushing for war with Russia

"EU Army" kek

Another promise kept. Don't we have the best President folks?

Damn, I already have your flag
Thanks again anyway

you're a fucking idiot

A democracy where none of the plain citizens get to vote for their policies and leaders is not a democracy friendo

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The fuck are you on about? It's an alliance of nations, no one loses sovereignty at all, it is entirely optional.

Our military umbrella is one of the few assets we still have going for us and NATO has been largely responsible for the peace Europe has known for the last 75 years or so.

lol, its the EU oppressing and robbing me, not Russia.

I run nothing, the elites do. Read article 5, it never meant automatically war.

i was searching on youtube for some videos to see if i can remember something and found this video
youtube.com/watch?v=AlFkT1ePyfg
isn't it nice, two bitches, members of the same think tank (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_War_and_Peace_Reporting) discussing "MUH RUSSIA" on cnn and pretending to be neutral and insightful. god, i hate these people, i wanna strangle every single one of them.

Honestly you guys should be making an allegiance with Russia. As Europe is going to be Europistan by the end of the century.

Russia meddling in predominately white countries elections, is because they are trying to get the anti-immigration anti-Islam parties elected to save their ass!

I´m pretty sure it states that every attack on an ally would be treat just like a direct attack on your own soil.
It was created during the cold war to stop further spread of the udssr.
it basically meant: "you better not attack that tiny country nobody even knows how to spell right or we will send your nukes after you"

>Why would Trump not support it?
Maybe because the US and the UK are the only nation's currently able to perform the duties required in Article 5. Trump has warned Europe to fulfill their obligations to military spending. By allowing their militaries to be in such a state that they are unable to perform the duties required by Article 5 they have abdicated their right to Article 5 protection from the UK and US.

That is Jeff Sessions's job now. He needs to remain hands off at this point for a solid investigation to really be effective.

Cut the pompous shit, Kraut. Re-read what I said if you couldn't comprehend it correctly the first time.

The only reason anyone gives a damn about article 5 or NATO is because it's seen as a safety guarantee that some tiny ass irrelevant shithole won't be gobbled up by it's neighbors unopposed.

Good.
The idea that a nation with 321mm people should risk everything for a nation with 622 thousand people like Monte Negro sounds crazy.

NATO is a failure

Look at this shitty building.
Would you rather have this or 133 Abrahams?

but user you don´t get it? positions acting solely in their nations interests are soooo last century.
we all should come together and work as one inform of a giant, corrupt, non democratic mega state, without borders nor national identity

Poland meets the 2% gdp military spending requirement last I checked as well. But yeah, pretty much everyone else is slacking.

Let Russia have Europe, they clearly can't be trusted to govern themselves.

looks like SSSS
mmh 4 s´s
4th Reich Superior Super Schutz Staffel?

Oh no....that sucks. Europeans might have to fund their own defense and cut back on some social programs instead of relying on us for their very survival while thumbing their noses at us constantly.

It looks like 4 claws digging up the GDP of USA, Greece, UK, Estonia and Poland, the only 5 countries in NATO who are paying their fair share.

once again, read article 5. Then you can join the debate.

nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm

the Baltic counties don't even have an air force, they need Greek F-16's to protect them from straying Russians.

Why does Ms Applebaum think that mentioning article 5 is so important? How many times have other presidents gave speeches without mentioning Article 5? Honestly, it's kind of an understood thing about NATO.

>The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Hurr durr, but it's just a suggestion and shit.

How about when you can comprehend English, you can join the debate, faggot?

>Only three other countries aside from the US actually contribute the agreed amount to NATO
>Still want the same protection though

They shouldn't get anything until they pay what they owe and start paying their agreed amount.

is the UK really paying it´s fair share as well?
I thought that their once world famous royal navy is now so shit that Spain could defeat them

Not for long. Baltic countries are about the ones with biggest increase in defense budget between NATO countries

What is a "fair share"?

According to NATO it is 2% of the budget in defense and UK is spending this money.

Not all money is spend on the armed forces directly though.

>such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force,

one doesn't need to be a genious to see this formulation leaves all options open, incl. not deem necessary to use any force.

what happened with the Falklands?

GODDD YESSSSS
FUCKING BASED TRUMP
FUCK THE ZIONIST WARMACHINE NATO
FUCK THE FREE GIBS TO EURABISTAN
FUCK THE ATLANTIC AND FUCK (((TREATY ORGANIZATIONS)))
ABSOLUTE IMPERIUM OF MAN UNDER GOD EMPEROR DONALD TRUMP AND NOTHING ELSE, NOW!!!!!!
YOU FAGGOTS WILL ALL FUCKING BOW AND FALL IN LINE OR YOU WILL BE BLOWN THE FUCK OUT I SWEAR TO GOD REEEEEEEEEEE

Georgia is not a fake cunt

Now if only he could get us out of the UN and the UN out of the US, I could die happy.

It's that thing that's only been invoked once, where one country demands pls halp. That once being the US invoking it after 9/11 and everybody went to Afghanistan. Maybe next time they'll say lolno, we're busy right now.

> an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all

If you're the kind of cuck that wouldn't respond when attacked... which I guess objectively might well be modern Germany, then sure.

I guess under your fucked up mindset everyone wants in NATO to belong to some fucking club or extra-governmental organization just for the shits and giggles.

>((((((((("peace")))))))))

Why would americans want to defend turkey if it got attacked?

>they have abdicated their right to Article 5 protection from the UK and US
source? because if this is officially true the US just upended the entire post-war settlement and has no allies now.

if turkey got attacked we would take and secure constantinople and scorched earth the rest and then have a beer at the bonfire of roachistan's corpse with whoever (russia) attacked them afterwards

Check out Euro history for the last 200-300 years and come back and tell me that it's not been comparatively peaceful for the last 75.

>Our military umbrella is one of the few assets we still have going for us and NATO has been largely responsible for the peace Europe has known for the last 75 years or so.
This. And some edgelords actually want this to end now, during the most trying time for Europe and let it all fall to Russian despotism.

their children werent being sold to mudslimes for use in their rapegangs by their own governments so yeah, it was peaceful in eurabistan prior to the bad guys winning both world wars

Russia is constantly responding to aggression from NATO. Each time Russia has done anything its because NATO has pricked at it.

>Greece actually paying their fair share
>its a % of GDP
NATO is USA, UK and a bunch of leeches.

You fought wrong

so you see, the cuckshed named NATO is useless.

it mainly has to do with demographics rather than the lack of will to forcefully meddle everywhere. Overaged societies are always reluctant to send their only sons into military adventures. Ali being killed in A'stan has no big impact as he has 4 brothers and 4 sisters, only sons Franky or Sven being wounded or killed has a demoralizing effect, there's a huge lack of recruits after conscription has been discontinued.

Why would anyone want to defend Turkey when attacked?

>Oh no this thing we never use isn't being supported by the US. Oh no what are we ever going to do?

The same fucking thing you have always done. You didn't use it so you don't need it.

>Trump frees the US of obligations to countries that spend on gibs instead of defense
>My taxes go down
>EU either loses their gibs or raises taxes again
>My Problem