For all the idiot WHITU PIGGU asking about the Qatar/Saudi situation on here and are wayyyyy off in every thread, I would like to summarize the situation to the best of my ability, as someone who is - and whose government is also - neutral;
>Egyptian revolution of 2011 happens. >Moursi (MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD elect) wins >shit happens and Moursi gets overthrown by the Egyptian army (Sisi) >Qatar believe in the legitimacy of Moursi X Saudi Arabia backs the army coup as legitimate and gibs hundreds of millions to Sisi >This is just before King Abdullah of Saud dies (a famously very patient, calculating man) >Abduallah dies - Salman (and his son) take over >Immediately start Yemen war >Ever since then Salman has been pushing the Qatari leadership for 3 things (rumors say he insisted when Trump came over):
>to back the Yemeni invasion as legitimate >to launch a media attack on Iran (through Al Jazeera and co JUST LIKE MBC Group has been doing for the past 4 years) >to back Sisi's coup as legitimate and DENOUNCE the Muslim brotherhood >Qatar says fuck you >says without Iran there can be no peace in the region >says Sisi's coup is illigitmate and hates the war on Yemen >Salman and son are not patient/calculating >this happens
pretty much this. enough with the stupid fucking theories and the "let me tell you about your region" mentality. You have the privilege of being on an international website with knowledgeable people from across the world. use that privileged.
Jacob Flores
BUMP
Ayden Jenkins
I'LL Bump it for interest.
Lucas Evans
So just a dick waving contest then?
James Martinez
Good post. I am uninformed, my question is: why is there the suggestion that there can be no peace in the region without Iran? I have heard this before. Doesn't Iran fund terrorism massively and was (perhaps, is) developing a nuclear program and launching ballistic missiles left right and centre? Why is there such a focus on making sure Iran stays functional in the Middle East. Is it something to do with the Sunni/Shia divide?
Also, I am always pleasantly surprised at how well people from the farthest corners of the world speak and write in English with more fluency than 90% of the people I know in my native Anglo country.
Blake Cooper
if you see that what happened in 2013 is a coup, then what happened in 2011 is also a coup
you cannot name one a revolution and the other a coup unless you're a fucking islamist
Ethan Morgan
With a bit of premature ejaculation thrown in (impatient Salman & Son)
Aaron Fisher
stupid sand monkeys fighting for nothing as per usual
Joseph Walker
It was a dick waving contest when Abdullah was a live. now it is a 7/10 happening.
If you turn on any Saudi owned TV station they're going ALL OUT
from
"the temporary rift with our brothers" to
"The traitors, the terrorist sympathizers etc."
I reckon Salman will not rest until Qatar leadership (AL THANI) is completely replaced
Pls bamp
Adam Brooks
If Salman and soon are not patient/calculating, how would you describe them instead?
Jaxon Lee
Thanks for the insightful posts Jordanbro. Do you have a source for this:
>(rumors say he insisted when Trump came over
Bentley Scott
So if there is a coup, who's likely to get in? Some royal cousin or a general or what? Quatar is tiny.
David Sullivan
Dodger licked her cat's asshole
Carter Green
What caused like 5 different countries to sever ties with Qatar at once though? Is there a huge political scandal or something I missed?
I mean, the issues OP talked about don't seem to explain the sudden reaction, as most of those issues have been going on for years.
Jacob Moore
There's an army at the door, I doubt there will be a coup.
Matthew Martin
5 OPEC nations?
Jaxson Fisher
people dont knwo this but this happen back in (apprx. 1997) Qatari prince overthrew his father and Saudis stood with the father and took him in.
There is a very very large family that has dual citizinship (saudi + Qatar) in Qatar called AL MARRI tribe, Saudi ARabia used this very large powerful tribe to influence the Qatari regime back then, it will be interesting to see if they do the same this time
rash. inexperienced. easily influenced by the USA
>Do you have a source for this:
when trump came to Saudi Salman invited every single arab leader including Qatar's, of coursee everyone is saying thats when Salman gave the ultimatum but i cant say i have sources
Salman gave the ultimatum during the Islamic conference when Trump came (i cant give source for this. maybe someone else can)
Isaac Clark
Also, please stop namefagging when you post in other threads. It's appropriate for this one as you are an OP with unique info/perspective.
In other threads it's distasteful.
Justin Lee
no one cares what you find tasteful and what you find distasteful. fuck off if you dont like it newfag
Jaxson Barnes
so where does DRUMPF fit in this picture
are we finna be dragged into another paki war or what
Ryan Sanders
basically saudis being jews as usual
Brody Russell
You prevent attention whoring in your women, but embrace it as a man?
Juan Rodriguez
Thanks for the geopolitical insight of your region, Jordanian user. >youtube.com/watch?v=mWSF5I4I3Lw youtube.com/watch?v=mWSF5I4I3Lw By the way, I like the music of this propaganda video. --- 2)Did Qatar supported Shi'a groups 3)Is this (((falconry accident))) happened? Was it planned and just a pretext to give them money?
Michael Kelly
No. This situation is perfect for Iran though, now they have another foothold in the region since Saudi ARabia stopped giving Qatar food, IRan immediately started white knighting and opened trade routes for food.
all trump has to do is watch this boil over while PRETENDING to side with the Saudis (since the gave him 200 billion)
Ethan Edwards
Sandniggers gonna sandnig
Elijah Butler
REALITY: Sisi was elected with twice as many votes as Morsi
This is the stuff I like to see. Lots to look into and read about thank you.
Joshua Brown
>Votes meaning shit in the mid east
At most it's a fairly accurate indicator of who has the most soft power, whose bribery is accepted.
Ryan Lee
>of coursee everyone is saying thats when Salman gave the ultimatum what ultimatum? im not following this part also, i didnt really follow trumps trip very much. besides the weapons deal and a speech about islam, what else was on the agenda in paki-land
Andrew Cox
Sisi - 2014 >23,780,104 votes Morsi - 2012 >13,230,131 votes
So what's stopping Qatar from getting straight Crimea'd? Fuck, even 1/3rd of Libya stonewalled them.
Lincoln Reyes
Why now though? Also, how the Americans not doing anything about this? Can you also explain difference between Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists?
Jason Morales
No, getting 23 million people off their asses to support you (10 million more than your opponents) is real exercise of popular political power.
You call a political rally and get 23 million to it.
Joseph Harris
The three things, didn't you read the OP?
>to back the Yemeni invasion as legitimate >to launch a media attack on Iran (through Al Jazeera and co JUST LIKE MBC Group has been doing for the past 4 years) >to back Sisi's coup as legitimate and DENOUNCE the Muslim brotherhood
>Qatar says fuck you >says without Iran there can be no peace in the region >says Sisi's coup is illigitmate and hates the war on Yemen >Salman and son are not patient/calculating >this happens
Chase Sullivan
why does SA hate yemen so much and why does Qatar oppose a fight in yemen?
why does qatar support the muslim brotherhood and not sisi
why does SA not support the muslim brotherhood? i thought both SA and the MB were both terrorists in one shape or form
also can you explain this: >>says without Iran there can be no peace in the region
Lucas Collins
So what's the endgame? Does Quatar bend the knee or get Ghaddaffi'ed?
when i lived in saudi we had to bribe customs to get our dog on base. everyone bribes everyone its part of their culture.
Blake James
In reality, the Muslim brotherhood / Salafis / Wahhabis can all be used interchangeably. It's like when you say "black man" instead of NIGGER.
Wahhabism = Salafism birthed the Muslim Brotherhood in the 1920s, the MB will of course over the years the change the severity of their tone depending on
A. their numbers B. the state's view of them
so in jordan for instance the MB is very docile. In Egypt where they have MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of supporters they are a major pain in the ass. but are almost universally hated by anyone who isn't a retard
my guess is, Qatar shows a show of strength for a while then bends the knee in the name of "Arabic brotherhood", otherwise it really is fucked this time
Adrian Anderson
Can Qatar really be a foothold for Iran though, considering our military base and it's Sunni population?
Camden Cox
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Jesus how blue pilled are you? Iran doesn't fund terrorism. Saudi Arabia does. They are developing a nuclear program but they don't launch missiles everywhere.
Bentley Nelson
But how come MB and Salafis hate each other? Why does SA support one group but not the other, and Qatar vice versa?
Alexander Wright
>Respect Sisi's election with 10.5 million more votes than Morsi, and stop funding the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group's treason and bombing campaign against the people and popularly elected government of Egypt.
By funding the MB, Qatar have declared war on Egypt. Time that shitty little meme gulf countires learned they only exist because greater powers allow them to on indulgence.
Kevin Nelson
Why not both?
Parker Diaz
Iran does fund terrorists, like Hamas in Gaza, and Hezbollah, also some limited support of the Houthis
Josiah Davis
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Ryan Martinez
not a literal foothold, Iran isn't going to field soldiers in Qatar you retard, but having economic/media/diplomatic/intelligence cooperation with Iran is a death sentence (as far as the Saudis is concerned), I dont think this will happen but Qatar might go all out
Because MB itself is infighting among themselves. but, THERE IS NO POLITICAL GROUP CALLED "THE SALAFIS" like "AL QAEDA", the MB built their creed around Moh. bin Abdulwahhabs "reformation" aka they built it around Salafism. What you said doesnt make sense. if an MB says they hate Salafism they are probably doing so for self preservation with the state
Christian Barnes
Get back to work for your TLA.
Christopher Miller
But then how come SA is against the Muslim Brotherhood. I thought SA would want to support all Islamic groups
Sebastian Bailey
I dunno, with a relatively rare flag like jordan you might as well be namefagging anyway. At least he's not tripfagging.
Brandon Long
Qatar is rich, but can it really stand it's ground against KSA & allies? Even with Iran, it seems quite weak apart from enormous wealth
Brandon Phillips
BECAUSE SAUDI ARABIA ISNT "SALAFI" ARE YOU FROM REDDIT FRIEND??????? THE SAUDS ARE A MONARCHY, THE REASON WHY THEY GAVE SISI SO MUCH MONEY TO QUENCH THE ISLAMIC MENACE IS BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT THAT TO SET A PRECEDENT AND HAVE THEIR SALAFIS STAGE A COUP
Justin Collins
Iran is the #1 state sponsor of terrorism in the world
>Designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1984, Iran remained the most active state sponsor of terrorism in 2010. Iran’s financial, material, and logistic support for terrorist and militant groups throughout the Middle East and Central Asia had a direct impact on international efforts to promote peace, threatened economic stability in the Gulf, and undermined the growth of democracy.
John Johnson
look like qatar intel proxying on /pol? Is it really true? Am I sleeping?
Cameron Phillips
>>says Sisi's coup is illigitmate and hates the war on Yemen
Qatar was part of the war on Yemen Confirmed for larping expat Opinion completely discarded
Ryan Howard
Yeah but the terrorism they fund only blows up sandniggers so who fucking cares.
Saudis fund terrorism in the west.
Carson Watson
I think I understand: the salafists could potentially overthrow the monarchy and install a theocracy sort of like in Iran. Is that right?
Jonathan Gomez
Thin end of the wedge.
Anonymity is the primary factor that differentiates us from Reddit and Facebook tier self-censorship. It's what makes this site what it is and must be aggressively protected.
Nathan Young
No go back to sleep
Robert Clark
Then why do they fund AL Qaeda, HTS, Taliban and LeS? Do these Salafis not count
Saudi Arabia is said to be the world's largest source of funds and promoter of Salafist jihadism,[97] which forms the ideological basis of terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda, Taliban, ISIS and others.
Nolan Clark
you said earlier that salami = nigger, wasasbi = black man
same shit
and then you said MB built their shit from salafmism which is based off moh. bin al-wasabi who is, according to wiki in the first sentence, wassabi, and SA is wasabi so EXPLAIN YOURSELF SAND NIGGER THIS SHIT MAKES NO SENSE
Gavin Moore
>chromed HKs
Jordan Cruz
\i just realized why this might seem so confusing to you having taken all your info about the ME and Saudi from Reddit comments but please read the concept of "The Caliphate" or AL KHILAFA, and why that might not be such a good thing for the monarchies of the middle east, so they appease or quench the Salafis as they go along depending on the situation, The Sauds aren't really even Muslim since all they do is gamble and fuck whores in Monaco.
get fucked
>hates the war on Yemen >refuses to shill/ say good things about it in the media to the extent that MBC group is shilling >is forced to go UP UNTIL NOW T|YOU DUMB AMERICAN CUNT. GO TO THE WIKIPEDIA PAGE
Adrian Ortiz
Anyone can pretend-namefag, though.
Tripfags are the worst since it's like having accounts.
Cooper Cox
Them Arabs like holding hands with other men too.
Michael Walker
Saudi Monarch and Saudi Mullahs are 2 different things.
Monarchy has to enforce sharia because the people WANT sharia. In 1960s, the Shah of Iran did away with sharia and what happened? Revolution.
David Diaz
Go to what Wikipedia page? Qatar was literally part of the fucking war you lardass brit expat
Dominic Foster
If you want us to hear your side of the story must make a thread like this you faggot. Thank you for your input.
Samuel Kelly
Anyone can, and if the majority does, this site is dead.
I'm being more autistic about it than I usually would because of all the newfag waves recently. They need to learn what's what early or else we get a few dozen new tripfags in a year.
Brandon Gonzalez
-tfw you know it's intel bashing hard for one of the side.
Jose Wilson
Didn't the CIA have something to do with that one? Iran before the ayatollahs seemed pretty chill.
Logan Long
if youre going to make a thread, and insist on bumping it for visability - presumably for (a) discussion and (b) TO SHARE WHAT YOU KNOW, you best start answering questions when someone asks it, in the most basic and easiest way possible, because if you havent noticed, 90% of this website are usa/can/aus/nz and euope, and truth be told NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SANDNIGGERS you fucking redditor
Easton Allen
this. also the part about aljazeera is utterly a schizophrenic delusion from OP, Aljazeera attacks Iran like 24/7
Wyatt Russell
i was with you til you said the saudis fucked whores in monaco. everyone knows they go to bahrain to fuck their whores.
Adrian Green
giving yourself a name doesn't make you less anonymous
name related
Ryan Rodriguez
>dictatorship >elections
Jaxson Smith
FINALLY someone explains this with some good ol' greentext
thanks jordanbro
Blake Wright
mfw stupid intel doesnt know it and heard about us only on internet
Grayson Wright
Yes it does. Especially when that name becomes habitual. Being user is important for this website's culture.
Jacob Perez
Listen to me very closely because Im not going to spell it out again you dumb fucking American nigger, The GCC consisits of:
KSA :D :D UAE Qatar :D :D Bahrain Oman Kuwait
BUT MORE IMPORTATNLY:
Qatar = Al Jazeera Saudi Arabia = MBC Group
The war is fought with propaganda to prove legitimacy, QATAR WAS FORCED TO GO TO WAR YOU DUMB CUNT DUE TO IT BEING IN THE GCC - BUT THE 1000-2000 SOLDIERS DONT MATTER AS MUCH AS THEIR INTERNATIONAL MEDIA SHILLING THE WAR l=LIKE MBC GROUP WAS DOING AND THE QTARIS REFUSED TO COOPERATE UNTIL THEY WERE KICKED OUT COMPLETLEY
t. JORDANIAN YOU FUCKING CUNT. WE DONT HAVE DIASPORA HERE WE DONT HAVE ANY MONEY TO GIB TJHEM
Michael Wood
saudis are wahabi anglo zionists
they are afraid of the muslim brotherhood because of its popular support, they could threaten their rule over the arab lands
Zachary Nguyen
The us's biggest problem is that war is profitable for both the us politicians pushing it and the far off funders who will also line their pockets with us tax payer money. When we go to war in a country we give one side of that fight massive resources and money. Outsiders and the corrupt total a net of 100bil and the us pays 1tril. Even a tiny percentage is a pretty good margin when you get to play with imaginary numbers.
Christopher Diaz
but anybody can have the name as long as nobody can prove that's really who they are
Nolan Butler
>BUT MORE IMPORTATNLY: > >Qatar = Al Jazeera >Saudi Arabia = MBC Group
The most important question remains unanswered:
How does this affect beIN SPORTS :DDDDD
Jaxson Campbell
Let me try an analogue. Salafists and Wahhabists are kind of like the Crusaders. They want to establish kingdoms ruled by their religion and they're willing to get violent. Even though Christian kingdoms liked the idea of Christians killing infidel Muslims back then, they no way in hell wanted ravaging crusader armies in their kingdoms, even though they were fine supplying them while they were away.
Alexander Allen
When the fuck are Saudi Arabia and Iran going to directly fight it the fuck out? Both of those countries are causing massive problems in the world.
Levi Phillips
You are correct. Thanks for this thread Jordan brother
Ian Powell
>this fucking entitled little ungrateful shit angry because no one will spoonfeed 100% him even though i spoonfed him 90%
this fucking site is dead. i should have made this on infinity chan
Kevin Rodriguez
Please respond me Jordanian bro.
Austin Hill
make it on asschan instead nigger
Jack Butler
RARE
Dominic Ortiz
>intel >bashing for one side >realize can't pull his bs thru >I probably go away
true intel kek.....plz dont come back
Julian Hughes
...
Joseph Sullivan
1. It's a possible gateway to tripfagging, which we can all agree is disgusting but could be attractive to t_d immigrants if they aren't told to remain user early and often.
2. Just because anyone can take the name doesn't mean people will. It usually remains as distinctive as a tripfag, just less secure.
Logan White
>dune coon gets mad over nothing No wonder Israel whips yalls ass erry time
Ryan Myers
Well said,
The saudi leadership is going to get there nation fucked over.
Jason Myers
Oh wow you got me
Thanks for adding nothing and trying to deflect, sharia blue
>The most r/the_donald reply in this thread
I will when I watch the videos portubro, I can't write now