Whats their endgame? I used to laugh at them and think they were idiots but then I looked into it and mormonism seems to be an extremely "white" religion. And they are out there marrying young and having many white children. I want to convert purely for that.
Is mormonism redpilled? Would conversion be a mistake?
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Fakest religion behind scientology.
They're all fake. I don't blame people for needing faith though.
Even if that is the case, let me ask you something. What does it matter? I look at results, and results is something the mormons most certainly have. Look at it this way, if its stupid and it works then it ain't stupid now is it?
>Look at it this way, if its stupid and it works then it ain't stupid now is it?
Think about what you just said. You should also be aware converts cannot ascend to the highest levels of the ponzi scheme.
Jesus said to judge a tree by its fruits, so really pay close attention to these folks and the outcomes this religion gets. Discern the difference between the perception of themselves that they market and the truth.
Its a lie, but its a beautiful lie.
A Mormon woman could make a man out of even the most effeminate beard having drip coffee drinking hipster beta with a bachelors in political science and psychology minor who likes to attend lefty protest, smoke pot and fuck women with armpit hair
Convert everyone to Mormonism so everyone can rule their own kingdoms of heaven in space.
Thanks satan
>Whats their endgame?
To achieve eternal life and repeat God's plan ad infinitum.
>Is mormonism redpilled?
Unintentionally so. Its a miracle its even survived this long. One of the importance tenets of their belief is the quality of gender and the family. There are other beliefs that are pretty redpilled.
>Would conversion be a mistake?
Anons on Sup Forums would believe so, but on a personal basis go do it.
Peace be still, bury the hatchet and the sword, the sound of war is dreadful in my ear. [But] any man who will not fight for his wife and children is a coward and a bastard.
Author: Joseph Smith
My first reaction is: Fuck off we're full.
But...if you convert for the doctrine, not pussy, you can come. But Frankly man, your marriage and the lives of your wife and children will be really, really shaky/shitty if you join just for pussy. Not how it works man. All or nothing.
It's a cult. The family-friendly picture you see is a shame. If any doubt takes place, or if one of the spouses does something that goes against teaching, the other spouse is counseled to divorce. Once you get sucked in, it's hard to get out. Tread carefully.
Name a real religion then.
Do you suppose they believe in Jesus Christ at Jerusalem? Can you make a Christian of a Jew? I tell you, nay. If a Jew comes into this Church, and honestly professes to be a Saint, a follower of Christ, and if the blood of Judah is in his veins, he will apostatize. He may have been born and bred a Jew, have the face of a Jew, speak the language of the Jews and have attended to all the ceremonies of the Jewish religion, and have openly professed to be a Jew all his days; but I will tell you a secret—there is not a particle of the blood of Judaism in him, if he has become a true Christian, a Saint of God; for if there is, he will most assuredly leave the Church of Christ, or that blood will be purged out of his veins. We have men among us who were Jews, and became converted from Judaism. For instance, here is brother Neibaur; do I believe there is one particle of the blood of Judah in his veins? No, not so much as could be seen on the point of the finest cambric needle, through a microscope with a magnifying power of two millions. This is a secret that you will perhaps find out, in a coming day, to your satisfaction. The Lord knew how to preach to the Jews, and told them what the truth was. You may as well undertake to command the most degraded of these Indian tribes, and give them arms and accoutrements, and try to put them through the regular military exercise, as to preach to the Jews to make them believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Brigham Young: I’d Rather Preach to the Devil than to the Jews (3 Dec. 1854)
LDS is the future for White America. It's the only way to save whites from falling completely to Jewish degeneracy.
Convert, marry a qt Mormon girl after your mission, and have 10 kids. They're singlehandedly propping up the white race
>A Mormon woman could make a man out of even the most effeminate beard having drip coffee drinking hipster beta
Have you ever actually met LDS men? Total femmes. It's more than a little creepy.
>any man who will not fight for his wife and children is a coward and a bastard.
It's amazing he wasn't murdered sooner. Fucked wives and daughters and kept right on baiting everyone.
One of the sadder stories in the book is of LDS First Counselor J. Reuben Clark, whose anti-Semitism seems to have been off the charts. Even after the war, he was still handing out copies of the anti-Semitic tract “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”
1881: Zina Huntington—Zina D. Young told of Bro. Joseph's remark in relation to the revelation on celestial marriage. How an angel came to him with a drawn sword, and said if he did not obey this law he would lost his priesthood; and in the keeping of it he, Joseph, did not know but it would cost him his life. [7]
he had a set of balls. it was his abrahamic trial and the lord didnt turn the knife.
enjoy the religion of peace.
HEAVEN IS WHITE'S ONLY = MORMONISM
mormons against communism and willing to use violence to do so
There's a Mormon in my program at my school. I think he's well-aware of the reputation of Mormons, and he tries to push back a little against it by acting snarky at times.
He's a decent guy though and I see through his charade. He doesn't have the genuine darkness in him; At least I'm not sure he's had a need to see it for himself.
president heber j grant against the kikes who took us to war with hitler that he tried to prevent
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12 April 1945: Roosevelt dies in office. Elder Joseph Fielding Smith writes, “there are some of us who have felt that it is really an act of providence.” President J. Reuben Clark Jr. quips, “The Lord gave the people of the United States four elections in order to get rid of him, that they failed to do so in these four elections, so He held an election of His own and cast one vote, and then took him away.”
we were pro hitler
we are pro america to the death
we are anti communist
we are anti kike
we are anti muslim
we are anti globalist
we are pro guns
we are pro family
we are anti illegal immigration
anyone that tells you different is a fucking liar
>converts cannot ascend to the highest levels
As someone who grew up Mormon and spent twenty years active in the religion, this is false.
I made friends with Mormons who were on a mission here below the equator. They tried to convert me, no surprise there. Bro-tier elders though, and the sisters were also cool. They came over to my house for a snack once in a while and discuss their religion in English - learned a lot this way. They're all married today with beautiful families. They look really good on an average. I've been a fan of their devotion and work ethic since.
>""""religion"""" with less proof then scientology even though it's not even 200 years old
If you believe in this bull you are doing nothing but line the pockets of the LDS church. From day one it's been about money and how many women can I fuck
It's a perversion of Christianity and needs to be eradicated
we do not run the cia
we do not run the fbi
we do not run the nsa, courts, or other branches
the kikes and sjws hate us more than any other religion.
degenerates are the problem. mormons are the solution.
we got trump elected in all the western states that went red.
we dont believe in gibs, soft on crime, etc.
we also dont believe in racism and other stupid beliefs
you want real leadership, dump your shitty e-celeb of the moment and join your brothers
because in the end we will be fighting and dying to save the constitution and we do it happily
or be like the fags pre world war 2 and kill more white christian men by sucking their media cock and believing the lies
Mormonism goes hand in hand with freemasonry which = judaism, so it's pretty much jewish trash. I met a Mormon girl and unconverted here. Feels good man
As if every religion doesn't ask for alms, tithing, or some other form of gibs
I've met exactly one Mason in all my years in the Church. I've met more Masons through work and school.
Asking is different then demanding 10 percent of your income
did you know if you are a mormon in good standing that we provide our own welfare to our members out of our own pockets?
rent, mortgage, food, etc. are covered while they get a job and back on their feet
dumb fucks like chuckles here is either a televangelist, kike, or ex mormon
i dont mince words because these fucks lie endlessly that its a gimme religion when its the opposite for many members
Question: With the economy in the state that it is currently in, we are seeing an increased number of families and members struggling to meet mortgage payments. Is it permissible for us to use funds to assist with their mortgage payments?
Response: As you undoubtedly remember, welfare assistance is usually designed to be temporary. Bishops, along with quorum and Relief Society leaders, and other specialists if needed, should help recipients design a plan to become self-reliant so they will no longer need welfare assistance.
If a payment of a mortgage in the short run will enable them to carry out their plan to become self-reliant, then payment of a mortgage could be very desirable and permissible.
>demanding
Have you ever been in the church? They make no demands. At most they might ask to speak with you at the end of the year to discuss whether or not you're paying, and it's taught that tithing is important as one of the many doctrines you must follow to reach the celestial kingdom in heaven, but they aren't going to hand you any bills, tell you to stop attending, or even demand the money.
You really think the guys that run the ponzi scheme would allow an outsider to become their senior? Not gonna happen.
How high did you get?
Wanna know how I know you've never been a member? It's because you're retarded. But not just normal retarded, because I've gone to church with legit downies before, you're one of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet.
>Have you ever actually met LDS men? Total femmes. It's more than a little creepy.
Beta neohomosexual detected.
I couldn't tell you what you're missing if I wanted to
Yeah it's a fucking mistake. Go "quiverfull" Christian instead.
And again, let the bishop appoint a storehouse unto this church; and let all things both in money and in meat, which are more than is needful for the wants of this people, be kept in the hands of the bishop” (D&C 51:13).
The bishop has the responsibility to care for the poor and needy within the boundaries of his ward. One resource available to accomplish this task is the bishops’ storehouse—a place where those in need can go to obtain food and other supplies at the recommendation of their bishop.
The storehouse is filled with commodities provided by fast offerings and other generous donations from members. Food and supplies from the bishops’ storehouse can also be sent to those affected by natural disasters, wars, or economic crises at a moment’s notice.
youre coming to a crossroads. stand with mormons or stand with the fucks that have destroyed your families.
you dont have to believe, its enough you dont join in the war against us.
wanna know why we are the target and not other christians
All human beings—male and female—are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a divine nature and destiny. Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose.
Husband and wife have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. “Children are an heritage of the Lord” (Psalm 127:3). Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, and to teach them to love and serve one another, observe the commandments of God, and be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives—mothers and fathers—will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations.
The family is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity. Happiness in family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. Successful marriages and families are established and maintained on principles of faith, prayer, repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, and wholesome recreational activities. By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended families should lend support when needed.
Also, just about every adult male in the average LDS ward is or has been involved in Boy Scouts at some point, they are all very family oriented and they're definitely not the beta cucks that make up most of my generation. The most feminine guy I ever went to church with was a Canadian and he still worked two manual labor jobs and had a strong family.
>thinking the church=the temple
Good goyim
>lie endlessly
What about those plates?
Or that magic hat?
Or the second set of plates?
Or how about how the church has gone threw this silent reformation so they can quickly throw everything that was norm in the church 20 years ago under the rug so they wouldn't be labeled a cult
All of your temple jargon and hand gestures are blatant rip offs of freemasory
Litteraly the pagan fans of rappers from the slums of Philly with jailhouse education have more spiritual clout than a dozen Mormon wards but yet respect goes a long way
did i answer your questions OP?
we aren't cucked and we will never be cucked
being white or any other race is nothing to be ashamed of we have always taught
what makes you a good person is your devotion to God, Family, and Community
don't show devotion to those three things? no matter what skin color you are, you are a nigger
lamanites = brown
nephites = white
4 And it came to pass that many of the Lamanites did come down into the land of Zarahemla, and did declare unto the people of the Nephites the manner of their conversion, and did exhort them to faith and repentance.
5 Yea, and many did preach with exceedingly great power and authority, unto the bringing down many of them into the depths of humility, to be the humble followers of God and the Lamb.
the whole book of mormon teaches that skin color means shit if you actually read it
the real problems in society are stupid culture like some blacks embrace, the mafias, and religion for money's sake
So now we're on to proving the religion is the true religion ordained of God? Prove the Old Testament was actually the real thing, or that God exists. I haven't been active in the church for years but if I did go back it would be for the teachings about family and life and not for the religious aspect of it.
>silent reformation
Like I said, I was a member for twenty years, which would cover the entire period you're talking about. The teachings and practices for the most part have gone unchanged. In fact, the greatest change I can think of in the last half century was allowing black people to receive the priesthood.
>we also dont believe in racism and other stupid beliefs
LDS teachings up until the 70s were comically racist. Then they realized how much more money they could make if they dropped it and became international.
>we do not run the cia
>we do not run the fbi
>we do not run the nsa, courts, or other branches
Horseshit. You followed the exact same path as the Irish - you faced legalized discrimination at the hands of the government so you became the government.
Fine. Why did you leave the church?
>The most feminine guy I ever went to church with was a Canadian and he still worked two manual labor jobs and had a strong family.
Exactly my point. Weirds me out.
And the Old Testament is quite literally Jewish, and your holidays are all pagan. What's your point?
Being a christian means being cucked by default, you're following jew doctrine.
lol this ex mormon
look chuckle fuck ive read way more on all the good and bad of the church
jesus put it best. "by your works ye shall know them"
tell me one work besides the stupid ass mountain meadow massacre you all fall back on that is bad they vs. the good they do
i dont see the science brigade at the natural disasters
you get what you put into religion and you obviously chose to justify your shit decisions using odd things from the past vs. trying to understand
go read the history of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints. its joseph smiths own journal and tell me he wasnt a bad ass.
>I look at results, and results is something the mormons most certainly have
Can't fault you for thinking that, but they also haven't had to put up with the immigrant floods because they were geographically isolated. The mormons actually want massive mexican immigration for some odd reason.
>Fine. Why did you leave the church?
I didn't see any reason to keep going. I never really believed most of the religious stuff, and I didn't need everyone I talked to at church telling me to get the priesthood or go out and find a wife. There's a good chance I'll start going again when I have a family.
>Exactly my point. Weirds me out.
Strong families weird you out?
nah, jesus tells you to buy a sword.
judeo christianity is what you fuckers hate.
mormon christianity is the what the protestants used to be and what made them great
Even in areas that aren't demographically white or homogeneous they usually fare well and have strong families.
Oh look, the Temple is shilling on Sup Forums yet again.
The elite of the Mormon church are seperatist. They're playing the long con. They want their own Israel in the western states.
Also, family values and such.
A 150 yo religion, based on the risen Jesus came to America to spread the word of GOD (Christianity). The funny part is none of the Indian tribes new of Christianity until we told them about it.
Joseph was awesome. He married other mens wives, sometimes never even telling the cucked husband. There are multiple versions of the First Vision, some written or told by Joe, and they all conflict with one another. The Church claimed the Book of Abraham to be not literal. I could go on but im on a mobile.
More love for Joe
Less love for the Church who tells a whitewashed history.
All Abrahamic religions are Jewish by nature. Joseph Smith was a known fraud and pedophile.
Mormonism is basically just pay tithing or go to hell, and in par with scientology.
Sup Forums now suddenly has a problem with racism.
>I never really believed most of the religious stuff
Wasn't that difficult? Did you think of it as white lies or was it more "go along get along"?
>ex mormon
Nah breah Catholic always was always will be
1 thing?
Golly Gee idk maybe having to pretty much be bent over backwards for the church
Or maybe them leading you further down the path away from God with there false teachings i.e. outright denying books of the bible
BTW breah we were also told
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Yeah, that's not how it works.
soulless people talk about which religion is the most white rather than which one will save my soul
>Known fraud and pedophile,
So basically you argue like a liberal then
lol catholic, even worse
hows that medici jew cock taste?
>can't refute it and instead calls me a liberal
Mormons
lol reads preachers blogs and /r/exmormon
sure thing buddy, not like they havent just posted shit to read from his own hand
so far i have read josephs own accounts across his life in his handwriting and they seem pretty consistent
know how i know you guys are dumb fucks? name one other leader of a major religion that admits his own screw ups, denys infallibility, and has scripture multiple times threatening him and his loved ones with damnation
not even bill nye would do an equivalent of that?
hmm, makes the noodle ponder
Fraud you say?!?!!
utlm.org
In 1965, however, George M. Lawrence, a Mormon physicist, was given permission to examine and make “some non-destructive physical studies of the surviving plate.” In his report Lawrence wrote: “The dimensions, tolerances, composition and workmanship are consistent with the facilities of an 1843 blacksmith shop and with the fraud stories of the original participants.”
Unfortunately, some Mormon scholars would not accept his work as conclusive. In 1980, however, the Mormon scholar Stanley P. Kimball was able “to secure permission” to have some experts make “some very sophisticated analytical” tests on the plate. Professor Kimball described the results of the tests in the official Mormon Church publication, The Ensign, August 1981, pp. 66-70:
A recent electronic and chemical analysis of a metal plate . . . brought in 1843 to the Prophet Joseph Smith . . . appears to solve a previously unanswered question in Church history, helping to further evidence that the plate is what its producers later said it was—a nineteenth-century attempt to lure Joseph Smith into making a translation of ancient-looking characters that had been etched into the plates. . . .
As a result of these tests, we concluded that the plate . . . is not of ancient origin. . . . the plate was etched with acid; and as Paul Cheesman and other scholars have pointed out, ancient inhabitants would probably have engraved the plates rather than etched them with acid. Secondly, we concluded that the plate was made from a true brass alloy (copper and zinc) typical of the mid-nineteenth century; whereas the “brass” of ancient times was actually bronze, an alloy of copper and tin.
Mormons are pure cancer. Crooks and swindlers, the lot of them. They're basically niggers with suits.
Which one of Smith's theological ideas did you refute? Oh wait none you don't like him so you accuse him of being a con man and a pedo. Sound awful familiar
lol if you are going to quote preachers that make their salary on ex mormons gone degenerate, have a refutation
fairmormon.org
Judaism.
Do Mormons even let converts marry their qt women or are you only allowed to mix with other converts?
This is like the highest-cost religion to follow it is a (((scam)))
The plates were claimed by Joseph to have been taken back by God what are you on about. Even if you don't believe that whatever it is you are rambling about is not them
my favorite response.
the church is greedy says these preachers whose entire business is based on tearing down a belief system and making money off of it
falling for the old priestcraft gig. mustva not read the book of mormon closely to get swindled by that.
at least my friends that left to go be degenerates just openly admitted it vs. this contrived bullshit
be a man fucker and own your degeneracy but never think non degenerates will respect it
Which one of joseph smith's theological ideas could you prove true?
The burden of proof is on you
Mormons aren't Christian but they seem like decent people. It's better to be Mormon than atheist so go for it.
you can marry anyone.
only good thing Mormons do is encourage survalist and self reliance and reproduction.
unfortunately most modern Mormons are proponents for oversea adoption and pyramid schemes (see: doTERRA, lipscense, luluroe)
Mormon qts love converts desu senpai
Kinderhook plates. It was a fraud someone sold to Smith to try and 'expose' him. The church kept the plates.
Mormons are great. They make a difference where it counts...that is; white birth rates and family cohesiveness. At the core of their' belief; it's pure lunacy, they're nuttier than Chinese chicken salad, Charles Manson on your front porch eating Fruit Loops, but they are so awesome otherwise. Doctrine aside, they are White, thriving, and fully exclusive. Mormons may truly have some claim to our future indeed. If it comes down to it, they will exclude me. But I will still applaud their' mission. After all, I only have four children. Who am I to judge? Mormons are an asset. Cheers.
i would agree with this guy as a mormon.
seeing an african baby with white parents is fucked up when the american CPS is full of white kids that need a home.
went to school with those overseas adoption type of families and they always became a mess.
enough fucking white kids in the system for white people to adopt.
mlms can suck a cock too.
You started by posting Joseph was a ""known"" fraud and pedo without any source or basis for that claim. The burden of proof rests squarely on your shoulders to prove that, which you still haven't done
You can marry anyone. However there is some folklore in Idaho and Utah that some families believe in that prevents them from marrying converts or outsiders. It's not church doctrine, just silly little regional heresies.
tell jesus you wanted to become a mormon for the "Qts" when he returns
this is a space alien cult
but enjoy your "qts" while it lasts
>I only have four children
>only four
what the fuck
Can you marry your daughter in mormonism?
(asking for a friend)
It's less kiked than standard Christianity, since it's founder was a white man. It's also a good survival religion.
Converts get the left overs, or so some other user told me. The young qts marry into good Mormon families and young missionaries after they return. So OPs plan is flop.
>we are pro america to the death
Doubt it. You're pro America until the LDS church says otherwise. This is why you can never really trust a devout mormon. They'll choose the health of their church over Americans any day of the week.
You're doing good work.
Of course. But if you marry a devout mormon and have children... if you decide the LDS church isn't for you, but your wife does... then you could risk losing your kids to her side of the family. If your kids decide to marry in the temple and you're not with the church anymore, you will not be allowed in and will not get to witness their marriage. Way of the world.
I must have fallen asleep during church when they did the lessons about space aliens
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Mormons please leave this board
Honestly if are a genuine convert you get first pick. The girls love that. But the conversion has to be genuine because they can tell
Ok. I'm convinced. How do I convert to Mormonism?
>20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them
So, how bout that LDS fruit?