capitalism is a rigged game where your successes rely on others' exploitation
socialism/communism is a regressive regime of guilt that brings everyone to a shared rock bottom
anarchism/libertarianism are critical defeatist ideologies aware of their own impossibility
monarchy/oligarchy puts too much responsibility in the corruptible hands of too few individuals
what is the answer?
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for now capitalism seems to be the best of the choices. Until we have a utopian society or something it seems like the only way to go
Not when we are going to be world superpower.
Fascism. All dedicated for the Common Good.
If USA was white like my country you could have the Nordic model, the superior way of capitalism for a homogeneous society. But instead you settle with your diversity.
define the common good. you will find in the end it is either the oligarchical "good" of an elite few or the debasing "good" of socialism - it is merely disguised.
do you think it better to be brainwashed into ignorance of your own oppression?
I'm sorry, that was mean. You guys are okay.
Syndicalism
:( thx bruv
I'm in favor of universal healthcare, but it's simply not feasible in a nation with 15 million illegals and welfare-dependent blacks
So much more could be done to actually help Americans if we got rid of so many of the leeches that don't belong here in the first place
no system is perfect but capitalism seems to the one that is less terrible. at least everyone has a legal right to succeed.
>posting communist propaganda posters
The communist equivalent is the exact same:
The glorious leader rules you
The party ideologues fool you
The red guard shoot at you
There is no middle class because their wealth has been taken by the above and given to the top two
Then everyone else is the poor.
I guess that just shows that hierarchies are inevitable. You can only hope either:
A) to be as high on it as you can get
Or
B) hope to have benevolent leaders on the top and a common spirit of unity that transcends tiers
B is why National Socialism and Fascism exists
Oh, and instead of God, you have perfect and infallible marx and the party manifesto.
>capitalism is a rigged game where your successes rely on others' exploitation
you can start a commune in a free market system
t. obese swine who thinks not being allowed to earn a hundred billion dollars through manipulation of the economy whilst a wholesome white family struggles to feed and educate their beautiful white children is oppression
national captitalism, but the trick is JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF NATIONALISM
I wanna add that crony capitalism (what we are living with) is
Nepotism is what free market capitalism leads to, with or without government policy enabling it.
There is nothing wrong with nepotism
National Socialism
death
Syndicalism
'course there isn't, swine.
>jews used nepotism to benefit themselves while shaming white people for doing it
your point?
Thanks for your input, Shekelstein.
Capitalism is the inevitable political and economy applications of nature forces like the Pareto principle; things naturally accumulate more where they thrive. An equal distribution in large proportions is simply going against the universe and its entropy.
Jews never would never have gained a foothold in the West if we were more nepotistic
We also wouldnt need to waste 100k going to college
>leaf
Be happy you are born into this world and make the best out of it with what you got. Venezuelan, american, syrian, or whatevers. We are only here for a short time.
My point is you should probably swallow your helicopter blades.
Nepotism doesn't exist at that scale, that'd just be nationalism.
Jews abuse nepotism to keep their foothold going, faggot.
You also assume that USA didn't willingly invite in the jews and just forget to kick them out like every other country in the world did.
sounds like spineless establishment shilling to me
Anti nepotism benefits outsiders like Jews before they became established
Success will always rely on others exploitation regardless of the system in place. Also capitalism still exists within anarchism and monarchism.
"anarcho capitalism" can and will never be anarchism
Cool and all but all that tells you is that you shouldn't have let jews continue to be paperpushers and then let them take advantage of the nepotism to begin with.
If you weren't pro-nepotism from the get-go, you could have shat on people who abused it, IE Goldstein and his homeboys.
Everyone practiced nepotism until the Jews demonized it for everyone but themselves
Your first statement is retarded Marxist bullshit.
Capitalism is the answer. It always has been.
I will become King.
And you listened to the happy merchants, why?
We never should have
They come from centuries of the craftiest and most persuasive Jews interbreeding to the point that they all have those similar traits.
What do you think nepotism is?
t. schlomo swinestein
Something that benefits people who practice it at the expense of outsiders
Distributism
No it's not you ignorant piece of shit,do you have any idea how many Crimea have been committed by the people at the top?! Every year it gets worse, YOU ARE AIND CONTROLLED DRONE OF THE 1%!
KILL YOURSELF!
at the scale of individual people, not an entire society.
"outsiders" is everyone who's not in your specific circle.
t. overweight college age dude who recently read Marx and thinks people trading stocks is oppression
PS: You don't deserve spell checker, in fact you don't deserve me looking at the screen before u post, you're just that undeserving.
First step is to get your information about capitalism from anyone other than communists.
They should not relocate to a community where they have no connections
What does relocating have to do with anything?
How is finding employment based on connections rather than qualifications a better system?
Its not just connections
If you are hiring incompetent people just because they they have connections your business will fail
That's the manipulation of the economy, not the oppression. The oppression comes if people are dependent on that economy's prosperity to survive.
They don't have to be incompetent.
How is hiring competent people you know a bad thing then?
It's all about gravity, OP.
We need gravity to pull toward a moral and honourable society.
We need to start from basics and fundamentals, not the small things and the technicals.
>Why is racism bad? Why is hating Muslims racist? Why do we need to tolerate Muslims? Why is tolerance good?
We need to ask every single question, and I don't care from what side you're on, left or right, it doesn't matter. YOU need to ask questions.
In fact, don't ask questions. No words, just thoughts. Define, in your mind, without words, the perfect society, and deconstruct that idea bit by bit, without using words.
>A world in which there is no hunger, no violence, no sickness, no pain?
Why? Men with nothing at all have the capacity to be happier than men with everything who kills himself because he lost a fifth of what there was.
What makes man happy? Conversely, what makes man depressed?
>American Indians, Whites, men, mourners, loners, ostracized peoples, transgendered people, gay people, etc.
Depression afflicts the social outcasts; so conversely, to be happy, we need to maximize communities and the sense of belonging; and to do that, we need to deconstruct the political atmosphere which demonizes whites and ignores the natives.
Politics means "Compromise".
What would a political solution be to:
>Oil
>Trade
>War in Iraq
>War in Syria
>Isis
>Nuclear arms
>Food shortage
>Aid
>Climate change
>Peace
Obviously, compromise.
Rome was a compromise between the tax payers and the soldiers, the subjects and the law, the patricians and plebians, the working class and the ruling class; and it fell because it was a compromise between multi-ethnic people who saw tribe loyalty above state loyalty.
We need to deconstruct compromise, and replace it with dignity, honour and true morality.
First year political science future drop out.
for you the answer is
KYS
Because "competent" is just whether or not you can do the job without being a retard.
I get the feeling you're looking at this from the perspective of the business itself as opposed to what the business is contributing to the economy.
I have some bad fucking news. Unless you have a 200 acre farm for yourself somewhere to grow all your own food, you're dependent on the economy's prosperity to survive.
Just be glad you're not dependent on Venenzuela's breadlines.
My business is to serve my interests
I dont care about contributing to a pluralistic society
Yeah I figured as much.
Cont'd
To understand what honour is, you have to forget what depression and mania is.
>X:
Affects mostly: Females, Native Americans, Transgendered people, and people in their 50s.
Symptoms include: Self harm, Emptiness, Laziness, Tiredness, anxiety.
What is X?
>Y:
Affects mostly: Men and women, Hispanics and Asians, LGBT, and people in their 20s.
Symptoms include: Delusion of grandeur, elated mindset, hyperactive, sleepless, fearless.
What is Y?
You would probably put "Depression" for X and "Bipolar/mania" for Y, but you would have come to that conclusion because I gave you the answers. This was originally a thought experiment that had NOTHING to do with mental illness. I engineered this idea in your head that it's about depression and bipolar/mania; but it's actually about honour and dishonour.
When men had honour in feudal times, how did they feel?
Elated, grandiose, and respected
How did it feel to lose that honour?
Empty, lonely, and driven to an honour suicide.
Through various cultures, the concept of honour mimics what we call "Mania" so accurately, that to the trained psychiatrist, Achilles' struggle with trying to honour his men while obeying the honourless Agamemnon, would have seemed like a textbook case of depression.
A modern society makes no use of honour, therefore the concept is vestigial, and we are left with vestigial depression and mania, which seemingly have no root causes, and the only treatment is a pill.
The compromising pollite doesn't realize that his "Fuck society, I'm beautiful" attitude is only making his depression worse.
Conforming to society's standards, and not validating one's self, but validating others, is what contributes to a healthy sense of honour which barely any modern person has now.
>thinks society is about material goods
>calls me a jew
My ancestors did not get on the mayflower for economic reasons
Never said otherwise. Now tell us why it's better for the economy's prosperity to be determined by a bunch of separate entities who are only looking after their own individual interests, as opposed to a government whose interest it is for the entire society to be as productive and prosperous as possible.
>strawmanning
I don't care why your ancestors got on the Mayflower. America was a mistake.
Any government concerned with economic issues is degenerate
oh really?
i think you will find it very difficult in practice due to regulations and laws.
Why was it a mistake?
"The Iceland Defense Force (IDF) was a military command of the United States Armed Forces from 1951 to 2006. ... Since May 2008, NATO nations have periodically deployed fighters to patrol Icelandic airspace under the Icelandic Air Policing mission."
That's because US Capitalism literally pays all your defense bills. It's pretty easy to run a sweet socialist country when the US literally pays all of your military costs.
Stop trying to be a virtuous fag. Economic issues are integral to any society's health and well-being.
Because it's been a cancer to the world since even before its independence.
The original principles didn't even survive a hundred years. The best things its done is cement the practice of citizens being armed.
Venezuela's waiting for you.
Also when you're ethnically homogeneous
The Nordic countries aren't models for socialism, if anything (before pic related) they were models for National Socialism. They were monocultural societies that had welfare for their own people.
Cont'd
The answer, in all of this, and the point I'm trying to make, is that all of this modern bullshit is caused by a self-perpetuating literal state of depression.
The giraffe has the longest neck and the world, but doesn't even look at the stars.
The lion has the strength and space to rule, but he limits himself to his patriarchy.
Birds fly thousands of miles, yet they still settle.
Apes have the hands to grasp tools but they never dream of inventing anything higher than a stick.
What makes us any different?
Why are we so unhappy that we have to "progress"? Maybe we are unhappy, because we've forced ourselves in a perpetual state of depression. This state of depression, we've created it, because of compromise.
It takes one person to abstain from violence, but two people for one of them to tolerate the violence of the other.
Beauty competition with the compromise that everyone is beautiful.
Private property with the compromise that the government or poor people can steal it.
Anti-racism with the compromise that racism against white people doesn't exist.
Immigration with the compromise of almost-daily terrorist attacks.
Equality with the compromise of all the wars in the name of equality.
Compromise is the single most evil thing in the universe, and you guys don't get it.. You simply don't understand that "Politics" means "Compromise".
The fundamental honour-building standards of the white-male-English-Cis-hetero society are being hindered by the black-female-Arabic-trans-gay compromise.
It started thousands of years ago when politics was first invented.
We dont need the government intervening in the economy to survive
>anarchism/libertarianism
stopped reading right here
anarchists are children that want no gov, lib see the gov as a necessary evil and choose to limit it's power
>muhh Venezuela
Come up with a different argument, capitalistfags. Venezuelan government's interests obviously isn't for the society to be as productive and prosperous as possible.
Do as Christ said and love one another as yourselves. You work to make money to buy things. Why not work to make things for others for free?
Oh yea, you all greedy. It works, it just requires everyone doing it, which doesn't happen because sin spreads like a cancer.
"Well, if they do this x, then I will do Y!"
Or
"Who cares? They clearly don't!"
Etc.
If humanity's only concern was survival, we'd still be hunter-gatherers, eating berries and chasing down deer with bows and arrows.
Stop with these nonarguments, please.
>what is the answer?
Go back to living in the forests, like our ancestors did.
Tribal warfare/etc.
If any (((leader))) emerges who tries to unite the peoples under one flag, kill it.
This is the only true and fair way to everyone.
Tribes in the forest.
I dont care about humanity
...
What is the question?
Capitalism follows natural laws and respects individual liberties. It's not something made up by humans, but it's just an observable phenomenon..
Humanist is cancer and pretty much the religion of r/atheism
We really don't need them intervening. Banksters are going to own the world soon and they wouldn't be able to if their shitty system was allowed to crumble, but oh wait, we don't have free economies.
Fact of the matter is that in the USA the banks SHOULD HAVE COLLAPSED and the government SHOULD HAVE PARDONED ALL LOANS LOANED OUT TO THE PEOPLE so they could keep their stuff and start fresh instead of being debt slaves.
Instead we got the opposite. The ones who were responsible and had the power to prevent such shit from happening allowed it because of their fucking greed and back door deals. The government bails them out, fucks over the rest and we foot the bill for their irresponsibility over a money that isn't even backed by anything other than belief that it even has value because it's what people physically observe others exchanging for goods.
This country's motto "In God we trust" should really read "In monies we trust"
Stop lying. Capitalism is an abstraction of CERTAIN natural laws, and it was made up by humans (merchants), to allow them to further their fortunes.
An observable phenomenon is the existence of socialism (the collective over the individual) throughout the entire history of human civilization.
Individual liberty is an incredibly recent meme.
Nothing I said was humanist.
>Nothing I said was humanist
You posted a fedora because I said I dont care about humanity
No it doesn't. Capitalism requires there to be a loser and thus, a sacrifice. I don't see how you people don't see this. Same story different shit.
No you don't "need" them intervening. You can survive in mediocrity.
You realize a free economy means more than just the banksters are allowed to crumble, right? And as for the greed that leads to the government protecting them, that only happens when money functions as the primary definer of social power. This is only the case in capitalist societies, where profit is the sole end game. Where the central feature is "capital"- assets that exist purely to bring you more assets.
Because you're being an edgefag and trying to sound all ambiguous instead of making an actual, useful point.. or even just refuting mine.
It doesn't matter what tribe you think you belong to, they're still humans. What I said applies to you.
Why r the shills out enforce
None of these matter. In the end every human being has to submit to physical laws. Whatever you dream up doesn't matter. And you asked the wrong question. You should be asking what you want to achieve.
>instead of making an actual, useful point.. or even just refuting mine.
How many reaction pics have you replied with?
There is nothing edgy about not caring about the economy
I just want to provide for my family
Things that must crumble, must crumble. They crumble for a reason. And if they are saved then the reason will swell into bigger and worse reasons.
How many points have I made that you just dodged?
>I just want to provide for my family
And you want to live in a society that invents and produces things for you to provide them.
And you want to live in a society that protects them from people that wanna take from them.
You're worse than capitalists, you're just a damned leech aren't you? Extra baggage. Dead weight.
Ok lets go back
My business is to provide for my family
It is not a jobs program
How is this a bad thing?
Those reasons are Darwinian in function, right?
I want to live independently in the truest sense of the word which I am not even allowed to. All education systems today indoctrinate you into believing that your way of life is independence. It is not. For now, all matters of your life revolves around money. Money becomes your God.
I can't even live of grid where I'm at because it's against the law. Just shows how much of a joke show this shitty system really is. Maybe it can be good, but no one is doing a good job of it.