Political spectrum discussion

ITT, we post and discuss standard political questions from the tests linked.
If you can, feel free to contribute your own results (8values.github.io/) or those from the political compass (politicalcompass.org/). Picture related is me.

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>Dutch Commie

Kek.

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I'm not a commie, I just support a degree of social support. To be honest I wouldn't consider myself a leftist as the political compass says. The 8values graph displays my standing more accurately, I'd say.

This guy, though...

OP you and me are pretty much 100% aligned, lets be best friends

Sup Forums has best memes. no other reason to post here.

Is this some kind of trolling? This is the second commie I get in a row.

Go ahead and do the test

Not trolling. I'm actually a member of Left Alliance.

Orig-a-nal kahn-,tent

Hope you all enjoy helicopter rides

Although feel I may have shifted upwards, as this was taken many months ago

Alright then. So how far do you believe welfare and similar programs should go, and what do you think would be the most fair taxing system (For example progressive taxing, a fixed percentage, or flat tax)?

Good post. What do you think makes you more world focused than me?

woah, careful with that edge now

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>capitalist fascism
It's an oxymoron, that really grinds my gears. Fascism is fundamentally opposed to capitalism.

I'm aware. The more correct term is National Capitalist

I might be a neutral, but at least I'm a Dutch neutral

Why are you all such Authority Fgts?

Well, I feel world market integration is important for any economy. I believe in the open transmission of goods, services etc, just not as much peoples. However, I believe this requires a defined notion of the selfhood of the nation.

UBI as it would be cheaper system than what we have now, atleast in Finland.
Reasonable progressive taxing focusing on the richest instead of the middle class. Or no taxes at all. I dont know, I live in fairyland.

Btw, op, are you familiar with duginism/ Eurasianism / the fourth political theory?

I agree with that, though a nation must be cautious and protect its citizens and businesses from outside predatory corporations.

Because we most likely all believe that the average joe is in no state to keep himself busy with politics, and that there are people to be obeyed and people to be served. I am personally confident that an enlightened autocracy is the best form of government. However, as you probably can presume, the biggest issue here is the choosing of an "enlightened" autocrat. I think it could be problematic choosing a suitable dictator, but if such a suitable dictator is chosen, the state becomes one of the best states that it could be. For example, see Augustus's Rome, or Germany during its later period of absolute monarchy, or Nazi Germany, or Mussolini's Italy. Examples of how this could go wrong are 18th century France and Russia during the very early 20th century.

Not at all. Feel free to enlighten me.

>the last personality test
>calling openness "intellect/imagination"
>not biased
>every idiot will hamper the results to score well above average there because of cognitive dissonance
hahaha

He is a toothpaste political philisopher who's been writing since the 90's and has gained influence (some say he has grown close to Putin). Anyways, he suggests Russia needs its own brand--something different than the standard ways of organizing government (liberalism, fascism and communism).

Cont.

intellect=/=intelligence, and openness does include intellect and imagination, but also other traits such as psychological liberalism etc

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here's mine.. i guess i'm a doormat pushover centrist. bummer, man.

>took eight values test
it says i'm libertarian

Preserve culture.
Cherish family.
Honor brotherhood.
Impede not commerce.
Give no quarter to semites.

So he suggests Eurasianism, which basically places Russia at the center as a uniquely European and Asian civilization--and unlike the west, it is not a purely white civilization so it's not as racist.
As I interpret it, it seems to just be dugin trying very hard to create a unique identity for Russia in order to promote it as the antithesis of America, while also straying away from the ugliness of association w/ fascism and communism. But in reality, I don't believe his theories to be coherent, and therefore, not a 4th political theory

>tfw low energy

Interesting. I'm listening. By the way, I'm originally from the Czech Republic so I'm not all that familiar with Dutch political philosophers and such.

If you're not memeing, then nice! I wish I could be as fashy, heh.

Not necessarily bad. Maybe a sign that you're a bit indecisive, though.

The tests aren't that accurate. I also find the political compass one to be inaccurate with me, for example. I wouldn't consider myself to be so lefty.

Amen.

Sorry, I realized now that I confused the Netherlands with russia...

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Seems like it. Russia is a slavic, and at that a white state even though they have some asian blood mixed in. I like Russian and the rest of eastern europe for being so resistant to moral degeneracy and retarded EU immigration demands.

That's not what idiots think. This will result in most people testing high on that scale for the same reason most people who do the MBTI end up as N. The questions and results themselves are posed in such a way that the self-serving tendency of people will bias them to those results, e.g. the MBTI test implies you're dumb if you are S. That's why these internet tests will always be meaningless.

And no less importantly the openness scale itself is some major bullshit. It depends on political views and it fits way too well into the political narrative of liberalism, which is not surprising given it was made by psychologists.

Nope, I'm serious in my beliefs and am not trying to be an edgelord with them. It's not difficult though, duchie... just look at how the Western world is being subverted and it will definitely push you toward it.

near-quints check'd.

you're probably right, toothpaste. i can definitely be indecisive politically at times.

Oh I know all too well that (((they))) are pozzing western Europe. It's just that I do support a degree of moral freedom, even though your position might be the less degenerate/more pure one at the end of the day.

Oh shit, I just noticed :D Anyways, which matters are you the least sure on? Maybe we could find something that would suit you better by discussing it.

pic related is from me last time this thread was up

How y'all doin'

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Well, my view of NatSoc is more in line with th American version coined by GLR. If you haven't heard of him or know little about him, I'll happily provide some links to his speeches. His adaptation would definitely work in America if it were to one day he implemented

I'm not a fucking neo-con either.

>full authoritarian
>full laissez-faire

really makes me think...

sup

i want to do away with the federal reserve, lower our national debt / deficit, change the way money works in this country, and universal healthcare.

8values and politicalcompass can differ a lot, I guess.

I'm not sure if I have the time to listen to a speech. Maybe you could describe his ideas in a compact way, though?

Are you serious?

Why wouldn't I be serious?

>fits way too well into the political narrative of liberalism, which is not surprising given it was made by psychologists.
The psychological liberalism of openness is antithetical to the doctrine of modern progressives/regressives. High openness individuals praise logic, consistency, original thought, proper semantics surrounding ideas, and so on. Modern "liberals" and people in general are addicted to group identity and openness is anti-identity.

r8/h8

Put the links of each test in your picture.

I can agree with the first statement, though in my opinion, health care and its cost should be based upon a person's health and responsibility. Of course, in my ideal for a society, no such regulations for healthcare would be needed since unhealthy lifestyles (products and practices leading up to unhealthy lifestyles to be more precise) should be forbidden by law, meaning that imposing any penalties on individuals unhealthy because of their choice would be unneeded.

It's not every day I a hardcore communist, and people bait on this bord as hardcore communists from time to time. Do tell me though, what's your critique on the free market?

Economical and civil liberties are two different things.

I like Albert Speer, but I'm not such a fierce traditionalist even if I support most religious values and oppose gay marriage and similar abhorrences.


Have a meme, everyone. To keep the morale in the thread high.

you taking about fatties or drug users or both?

You don't get how they think. That's your problem. They are autistically following a set of principles. You're attacking a straw man if you think it reduces to "feels vs reason" or anything of the sort, which is a bullshit dichotomy to begin with.

And, no. Openness in those tests is testing for liberalism.

Both. I am talking about everyone who has health problems because of their own choice. Fatties, drug users, irresponsible drivers, workers not following appropriate safety measures while provided with every tool they need to do so, etc.. Child drug users are a different story, though I don't know if you are interested in hearing about that.

I like your personality :-)

how do you propose we deal with those who cannot support the healthcare for their own unhealthy lifestyle and lifestyle choices?

>It's not every day I a hardcore communist, and people bait on this bord as hardcore communists from time to time. Do tell me though, what's your critique on the free market?

That the free market puts what's profitable above what's good for the country.

>theocratic distributism

how

Well they should have one chance to turn things right in my opinion. Rehabilitaiton, dietary courses and similar programmes should be provided for those people *the first time they get in problems.* If they cause problems for themselves after that, they are unhelpable and should be left to their fate.

Well yeah, that's true. There definitely need to be regulations. However, concurrence is absolutely vital to the progress of any society, and capitalism creates a good portion of jobs through fair means. As long as it doesn't turn into corporate lobbyism, it should be all well.

Probably a set of answers in the equality + religion cathegory. The website doesn't determine the ideology on the percentages but on the answers, I think.

I honestly have no fucking clue what a neoliberal is.

Yeah, it has most likely linked religion with traditionalsim, but i'd still consider myself as irreligious traditionalist - keep the family values but also keep any gods out of it.

My Spek

Rate me

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Almost quads, what a shame. Looks like we can agree on a lot of issues!

Go ahead and sent them a mail, in that case. It will help calibrate their tests.

That would be Macron, Merkel, the Clintons

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Fucking leftists in this thread.

Interesting results, everyone. Feel free to engage in conversation about eachother's beliefs to keep the thread active!

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Nice pooinlooing

Thanks

Says the guy with over 50% equality score.

>having greater yellow than blue
>ISHYGDDT

Socialism and Nationalism goes nicely together.

Am I bad?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yes, but you're complaining about lefties.

Not at all.

How am I?

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you are nothing desu

r8 my personality

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MBTI is just woo.

I rate gullible as fuck

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what does this mean

You're literally me, please marry me.

Interesting results, goyim

I'll be reaching out to some of you who are thinking wrong

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imagine being so bored and lonely, you LARP as a cartoon jew for attention from anonymous child molesters