Not proud of my culture

Hello Sup Forums,
I'm a native Dutch person (Dutch ancestry traced back to 1790). There's been a lot of talk about immigrants trying to take away our culture. My thing is: I don't give a shit. I know that probably according to most people on Sup Forums, I should. But I don't see anything in Dutch culture that is so important that it's actually worth getting upset over. To me Holland has been a relatively cultureless society for a long time. Our thing is business, not silly rituals or customs. I know we have a pretty impressive history, and we had some great painters for example, but I don't identify with this because it's too long ago. I'm talking about the period after WW2. Which means the culture of my parents and grandparents. They're the only generations I have ever experienced in person, and they were the people passing down their culture to me. In these generations, I have not seen anything cultural that impresses me. We have a few unique cultural characteristics, but they're not many and they're not that great. They include stuff like sitting in a circle of chairs at birthday parties and having the most boring party imaginable, or celebrating our monarchy on king's day. I honestly can't really think of anything in Dutch culture that I would really mind disappearing, let alone worth fighting for.

So tell me Sup Forums, why should I be proud of my culture and why should I care about it eroding? I feel like I must be missing something, because it seems strange to me that a country would have no culture to speak of.

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>To me Holland has been a relatively cultureless society for a long time.

Ya Niggers made Hagelslag. That's probably the best thing that came out of Europe since 1889.

there is no doubt that you still benefit from your ancestors culture and behaviors. If it worked so well to give you such a nice life dont you want to further their tradition and give your descendants a nice life? Honor them and you will be honored in the future

You sound like a person who never sacrificed anything for something greater than themselves.

You also sound like a naive person, who takes for granted the multitude of things your culture has given you and the absolute threats that occur when you are not part of a group that is dominant in your area.

If you imagine that the world is like high school (because you probably have no other experience), your dutch bretheren have carved out for you a place that you and your friends can study and work without getting fucked by jocks or getting fucked over by retarded Stacies.

You've taken for granted what your family and countrymen have died for, and now that you sit amongst the clouds you have never seen the goddamn mess of shit that occurs when you are no longer king of your mountain, and how much you have to work and suffer to get there.

sure, comparatively you mountain may not be as big as the US's. Or have as rich history as Spains. But its your fucking mountain, and nobody fucks with your mountain and walks away.

Also, a question for other Dutch people: do you really care about the tradition of zwarte piet disappearing, or is it just a nice concrete example of immigrants taking away our country, that you can latch unto to voice a more general dissatisfaction? To me the fierceness of the debate on both sides was surprising. I mean is zwarte piet really any important, let alone integral part of Dutch culture? And if it is, doesn't it mean Dutch culture is pretty pathetic? If painting your face black and putting on a silly costume has become the most used example of Dutch culture, doesn't that make Dutch culture as a whole seem kind of irrelevant?

Gonna reply to all of you, give me a minute.

think of it this way, then: would you rather live normally or get bombed to pieces while achmed is getting deepthroated by your girlfriend?

cucked

I don't know. You're just not really a man. There's very little I can add to this.

Your post reads like a downbeat beta bitch writing in his man journal.

Lets say your right and the dutch culture is garbage. Well you have no idea what hell is coming your way and your children's way if you remain passive. Islam is a terrible culture and so are all 3rd world cultures. There is nothing more sickening than a man who is too passive to defend his basic territory. In the past men like you would die off quickly and in the future this will be the case as well.

Enjoy.

It is not culture. Culture is a dog whistle.

It is race. In your senior years you will be surrounded by a sea of hostile shitskins and as you draw your dying breathes it will all make sense.

Assuming you even make it to an old age and they don't just eat you alive in the middle of the street during a period of high cultural enrichment (see: chimpout).

You will only realize what you lost once it is gone. What is gone will be replaced with something else. You have no idea what kind of hell you are creating for yourself and future generations.

Switched to laptop, might have a different ID now.

You made it worse, being the first post to mention something good that came from Dutch culture, and it's fucking chocolat sprinkles.

I understand that, and I'm very grateful for it. But my ancestors were businessmen and colonists. Culture wasn't the most important thing to them. They didn't even convert Indonesia to Christianity, or gave them our language.

Not gonna reply to the personal attacks other than saying I think you're wrong about them.
I understand that I am economically and politically in a priviliged position, and I do understand that I owe all of this to my ancestors. But like I said to poster above, my ancestors were businessmen and colonists. We do not have a rich cuisine like France or Italy, we do not have strong family ties, we do not even have a good soccer team anymore. We do have stuff like an amazing infrastructure system (3rd best in the world according to World Economic Forum, behind Singapore and the UAE) and a pretty brilliant water management system. But those things are practical in nature, whereas I associate culture more with things like symbolism and tradition. The same goes for our former colonies, they were practical endeavors meant to make money, and in my opinion had little to do with culture.

kek.
anyway, so my culture i not getting bombed to pieces by Achmed? I'd like a little more.

I'm not talking about Islamic culture being better in any way. They do have more culture, I would say, but their culture is too backwards. I would fight and die for my country, but not necessarily for my culture.

This.

Dude fuck off. No one cares about your personal problems this has nothing to do with politics. Kike trying to bring irrelevant shit into this board. If u don't care then fine thats your problem. Let the immigrants take over. I mean of course u don't have a culture you guys are all atheists. U can't fight for something you don't believe in.

So culture is irrelevant to you? All of your culture could disappear as long as there are no shitskins around?

Well so help me avoid that then, not realizing what I'm losing. What aspects of Dutch culture are we losing that we need to preserve?

That's because your culture had already been destroyed by the time you were born.

The question is, are the EU and Islam the foundation you want to rebuild on?

That's because all Dutch culture has been removed. Check out Oera Linda.

youtube.com/watch?v=boeWSFCuY24

Culture doesn't equal religion. But you have a point, lots of countries derive their culture largely from religion. Since most of us are atheist, maybe that's the problem.

When we say "preserving our culture" what we really mean is preserving our race. Whatever culture dutch people produce is dutch culture but if you are replaced by non-dutch muslims whatever culture they produce will be not dutch.

Essentially magic dirt won't turn muslims into dutch people. A nation is its people and if they are lost, the nation is lost.

>So culture is irrelevant to you? All of your culture could disappear as long as there are no shitskins around?
Race is literally all that matters. The day you suffer for being an indigenous Dutchman simply because numbers are no longer on your side is the day you will understand.

This sounds plausible. So what do I do about it? Walk around in traditional Dutch clothing and speak old Dutch?
That's not the foundation I want to build on, no, but I feel like we don't really have any other cultural foundation left, besides practical things like our business skills and water management skills.

Will watch in a bit, promise. Do you feel the same is true for Norway?

Well, you had goat painters.
And I've got one of Jansen's Strandbeasts
youtube.com/watch?v=azy-c6QXUCw

The thing is, in my opinion, Dutch people don't really produce lots of significant cultural characteristics. We're about money, not culture. But I feel culture is important too and shouldn't be missing from our equation.

So what happens if your race (talking about Dutch people, up to you whether you consider us a distinct race) doesn't really care about culture, but only cares about money and other practical things? Wouldn't you feel like that's missing an essential part of human civilization?

You're a disgrace. Read some books about Dutch history. Even if you can't identify with it, at least you must recognise that most of the things wrong with shitskin culture are fixed in Western (and that includes Dutch) culture as it has developed over the years. If you truly understand this, the displacement of Dutch culture becomes horrifying. Things like tulips and zwarte piet are only a superficial part of our culture.

That's true, we had great painters. However, they don't play any significant part in our daily lives. They don't really affect our current or recent culture, IMO.
Also, I've met the guy who makes those Strandbeasts, quirky and funny guy.

History we have plenty of. How does it affect the culture of our generation, that of our parents and that of our grandparents? Could you get more specific as to what Dutch culture entails? I agree tulips and zwarte pier are superficial and there must be more.

>So what happens if your race (talking about Dutch people, up to you whether you consider us a distinct race) doesn't really care about culture, but only cares about money and other practical things? Wouldn't you feel like that's missing an essential part of human civilization?
I really don't understand what this question is even asking. Like I said culture really doesn't matter. It is always downstream of race anyway. In group out group dynamics is all that matters. You are being flooded with a hostile outgroup. Your in group will suffer if it isn't already. You will personally suffer eventually as well.

There is really nothing else to say. If your entire in group has no sense of self preservation perhaps you deserve to be conquered.

What I'm asking is this: let's say we resist this shitskin invasion, kick all of them out and let no new ones in. We preserve our race or our people. We would still be businessmen and politicians (2 things Dutch people historically excelled at). Those things are both subject to change according to business opportunities or political landscapes. I feel like our underlying culture that should bond our people is very weak. Don't you think this is important too, rather than simply all being the same race?

Also, just to clarify, I am proud of our history and achievements, I just think we are lacking in the cultural aspects of our society.

That is a bridge you must cross on your own. But you are in crisis mode and from the looks of things it will not end well and you WILL suffer in a very tangible way only because of your race.

It is not about cultural preservation or revival. It is defending your in-group from an invasive species that will only make life hell for you.

Imagine a future where your chief concern is only that tulips and windmills are kind of boring from a cultural perspective. It is literally utopian compared to what awaits you.

And also I have to say to all Americans in this thread: your society suffers from this even worse than ours. Your culture is even more based on profit and business. Most of your culture has profit-oriented origins too.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of this. But it's a seperate topic. I am actually talking about tulips and windmills being kind of boring. I understand we are under bigger threats than our lack of interesting culture, but it doesn't mean we can't also discuss this.

I think the Dutch have more culture than you think but I agree todays society doesn't really show it.

>Dutch youth speak in retarded slang using words from nigger countries like Suriname
>Dutch youth speak in a retarded foreign accent on purpose because they think it makes them sound cool
>Most adults (or at least the ones I met in my life) only really care about material wealth and work not putting much emphasis on anything else
>Most adults are happy to throw away what culture there is even standing anymore in todays society in order to be ''progressive''

How do you guys feel about the solution the Nazi's came up with, researching ancient Germanic culture and attempting to revive aspects of it? Even going so far back in history to evoke pagan cultures?

I don't think society really showed it in the times of our parents and grandparents either. What do you think are quintessential aspects of our culture?

>teehee look at me I'm a little faggot who is so alienated and detached from his own culture that I honestly believe I wouldn't miss it if I had to live under shariah law!
Just convert to Islam and move to the Islamic State already faggot.

Also, don't you think people here have been disregarding culture in the name of being progressive for a long time, even in the golden age? We brought in massive amounts of immigrants in the 17th century too, and adapted foreign spices in our cuisine for example. I mean what do we have in our native cuisine? Some stamppot and a few more not so impressive things, most of our current diet has very little Dutch origins or even ingredients native to here.

You misunderstood my post so badly I'm not even gonna retort.

you are right, we have no culture, we are all Marrokaan

I wouldn't really say adopting foreign spices would be something to worry about. Indeed bringing in immigrants was a huge mistake but never has it been as bad in Dutch history as now and I still don't think 17th century immigration impacted the culture as much as now.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_the_Netherlands

This basically gives a nice summary of Dutch culture.

Look how close our ID colors are. Should we start revolving Dutch culture around the color red? I'll take a look at the wikipedia article and see if it alleviates my concerns.

already have red in the flag, but orange is the way to go, you do know why carrots are orange right? because farmers wanted to give something to the house of oranje, have a pic of quintessential dutch culture, go to the countryside more, gasp at the architecture of the cities, and know that all this will dissapear as the native dutch and the cultural values they abide by, will be gone in 50 years as democracy works against them, rejoice

How about our cabaret and extreme free speech. I think this is our modern dutch culture. Look at people like Hans Teeuwen who has been redpilling us nationwide since the 90s. We are like germans with humour.

I didn't know that. Did we really make carrots orange? lol
You've helped a little bit, I can't deny that your picture is chock full of Dutch culture. To be honest though, the architecture is the only impressive part in that picture. The clothes are not extravagant like most countries' traditional clothes, they're simple farmer clothes. And the cheese, well, it's just cheese. I read through at the Wikipedia article postsed by other Dutch user, and it kind of confirms my point. Firstly, the article is fairly short. Secondly, there's a lot of stuff in there not practiced by my parents or grandparents. Thirdly, and perhaps most important to my point, the abstract of the article speaks volumes. It reads:
"
The culture of the Netherlands is diverse, reflecting regional differences as well as the foreign influences built up by centuries of the Dutch people's mercantile and explorative spirit. The Netherlands and its people have long played an important role as centre of cultural liberalism and tolerance. The Dutch Golden Age is popularly regarded as its zenith."

It speaks of our history of exploration and tolerance. Many parts of our culture have been adopted from other cultures, through our exploration of foreign lands and tolerance of their cultures in our homeland.
Why don't we have something like an impressive traditional dance? Why is Dutch music simply gipsy or American music with Dutch lyrics? How come we don't have a dish that is loved around the world? Why is our version of carnival a huge mess of drunken idiots listening to aforementioned (not) Dutch music (and carnival music being as vulgar as possible and a celebration of idiocy)?

That's a pretty good point. But our extreme free speech (not talking about legally, I'm talking about culturally, known as Dutch directness), I would think, is related to our tolerance, which is now causing our downfall. Wouldn't it be better to have an actual dominant opinion engrained in culture, rather than having people saying the most outlandish shit in the name of free speech and directness?

Our culture is encapsulated in the way we conduct business and run our government. From ages we've governed through certain principles like: consensus (polderen), pragmatic tolerance (meritocratie), etc.

Read: beneath consensual corporatism: traditions of governance in the Netherlands - by W.J.M. Kickert

Saying we have no culture means you are either uneducated, not in touch with reality, or terribly Americanized.

I agree with this, and it's pretty impressive. The Poldermodel (I'd say it's based on comprimise rather than consensus) is a truly revolutionary and efficient system. We invented the stock market, and have an extraordinary history (and culture, yes) of doing business.
However, these are clearly seperate from things that are generally regarded as culture, or cultural heritage. I understand that technically this is culture, and it's OUR culture, but it's practical and honestly, it's fragile because it's subject to change depending on business opportunities or political climate. Why do we have so few traditions, symbolism, rituals, etc.? I feel like if we had more of this, we wouldn't be so apathatic and accepting of our culture being replaced by others. If it's politically and financially smart, we do it. Regardless of how much it erodes other aspects of our culture, because they are so insignificant, relatively speaking.

you dont know what white culture is. I am a bland stale white cracker and proud of my lack of culture, THAT IS MY CULTURE.

Well yes, you are right. Although i think we combine our directness with our soberness. Look at how our politicians, we hate, treated the proposal from last week-or so, to make police-uniforms hijab friendly. Most of them didnt take the proposal serious and some laughed.
Plus we have fvd. But yes everything is going to shit. Just be proud of us dutch

You need to go back on riidit you liberal faggot.

> White culture
It's only Americans ever using this term, exactly because of the reason you mentioned, your lack of culture. Your country is even worse than mine in this regard. Your culture consists of things like Micky Mouse and McDonald's. There is literally almost nothing in American culture that isn't a product or a brand. Your country suffers from the same symptoms I'm describing, only in a much more extreme form.

I'm proud of our ancestors and their achievements, I can't say I'm proud of us Dutch nowadays and I can't really say I'm proud of our culture. I'm proud of our business and political skills, but even those are failing us now.

Shut up faggot, I'm having an actual discussion here and if you had read my post you will see I'm not a liberal and my concerns are genuine and based on an actual phenomenon of a relatively cultureless society.

>so few traditions
What? we have loads of traditions. Eerste haringvangst, elfstedentocht, cycling, carnaval, etc., But also less extravagently with polders, brown bread w cheese, dinner at 6, snackbar/uit de muur trekken, etc.
>symbolisms
What do you mean by symbolisms? Some people express respect through bowing or using a formal adressal. Our symbol of respect is dead honesty. Foreigners always complain about how they can't handle it. For as we get closer to someone, we do not coddle their feelings as much as outsiders. To us telling it like it is is the greatest service you can provide them with.
>rituals
Mostly due to our Burgher past that took distance from religion combined with our love for seperation of church and state. However we still have Sinterklaas

Culture is: food, drink, music, architecture/art, legal/political structures and practises, language, literature, national holidays, customs, national dress etc. The suggest the Netherlands doesn't have anything of those is moronic. Some will overlap with other European countries, but will be very different to places like Africa, Middle East, China etc. You do have a culture, it's just so normal to you that you don't have to think about it. European culture generally is so globally successful it's now seen as normal.

go back to leddy, noone starts his OP with
>hello / pol /
they say something like
>hey user or guise
fucking externalfags I hate you all

Kek, well people in Flanders always joke about you protestants (boven de Moerdijk) not having a culture

But in all seriousness:
How do you expect immigrants to integrate if you're flushing your own culture through the toilet?

You are a traitor, go back to Turkey you piece of fking shit. If you actually think that we should discard our past you need to kanker off.

Even if you don't like your culture you should at least not be against it. If you want to destroy this country keep being you.

Also kanker dead please kanker jew.

If you dont see the value and the extent of our culture, you are wilfully blind and ignorant.
Do yourself a favour and end it.

>Did we really make carrots orange?
just a story I was told, and you know what, it is actually true archive.fo/z0Vko

>Why don't we have something like an impressive traditional dance?
but we did, except no one does it anymore except maybe for tourists youtu.be/SNmpkeY41xA

>Why is Dutch music simply gipsy or American music with Dutch lyrics?
NL is a pseudo-American protectorate, lost its real sovereignty post ww2
we have something called a meezinglied though, you ought to know a few, very dutch & very embarrassing
>How come we don't have a dish that is loved around the world?
gouda cheese? everyone eats it with bread, also the frikandel is known worlwide at many places, but yeah no biggies like pizza or something
> Why is our version of carnival a huge mess of drunken idiots
social engineering, they follow what's popular, there's nothing regional anymore
globalism has eroded the Dutch culture pretty much

Stop being a cultureless cuck, read about our culture and help to revive it.
You have to stop listening to the faggots at the NPO, Joop and other people infected by the American Left that tell you that the Netherlands has no culture.
They're trying to destroy your identity so you'll bend more easily to their pro-globalist, pro-multicultural, pro-communist, anti-white ideas.
This is how (((they))) destroy Western countries: destroy identity, demoralize the population, create consumer culture, enlarge the welfare state, and bring in foreigners with a stronger identity.
And why should you care, right?
Why even revive the culture of one the freest countries in the world?
If you think like this, you deserve getting fucked over by cucks and Ahmeds with their totalitarian ideas.

freedom is our culture vuile landverrader.

Nice ID.
We do have some traditions. I'm going to sort of downplay some of them, take it partly as playing devil's advocate and partly honest opinion. Eerste haringvangst, well, it's just the first herring catch of the season. There are events organized for this, but they're fairly small and it's not really that big of a deal. You could easily miss it. Also, it's literally just enjoying the first catch and doesn't really have any other connotations to it. We don't worship the fish god or organize a fish parade.
The elfstedentocht I agree is a cool and significant tradition, too bad it hasn't been held for like 20 years or something.
Cycling, I'd say it's become somewhat of a tradition, but it's still just riding a bike. It's a practical mode of transport.
Carnaval, I touched on this earlier. I've been to carnaval once and it was honestly a huge uncivilized mess.
Polders are also a practical thing made a long time ago, we don't exactly practice the draining of swampland as a tradition.
Brown bread with cheese is pretty much the most bland thing you can eat.
Dinner at 6 is very trivial.
Snackbars are pretty great and serve tasty food, but it's frozen fast food, not that impressive IMO.

What I meant by symbolism is for example when you look at a cathedral in Italy, covered by statues and paintings full of symbols referring to something, or the British wearing the red poppy thing, or the Greeks smashing a plate on the floor. Rituals are pretty much related, I agree lots of symbolism and rituals disappeared with the seperation of church and state and the increase of atheism. We do have some ceremonies left though, like when we remember the dead and on liberation day, or when something happens with the royal family (marriage, abdication, etc.).

pay debt

>you have no culture goy and what little you do have is not worth preserving, look at Mohammed and Pajeet and Mutumbo with their vibrant and genuine culture
You know I'm really starting to notice a pattern.

>ywn fuck pregnant Anne Frank in a Dutch windmill

feelsbadman

Also

Im not 'proud' either, but thats probably because as far as my emotions go, im quite numb. But looking at the rest of the world im seeiing a shitload of people who lost touch with reality. Im not saying us dutch are perfect. But we do have some common sense. Plus i must say i am more proud than before since fvd showed its face, i dont get how you dont feel the same. And in response to being on a collective path being better, wel yes, but being we live in a modern democracy(which atm we must), i think we are doing okay.

it's spelled denbts you fucking baboon*
>go back to your website, what the hell are you doing here
(*) : not prepared to do that, kikes BTFO

Best counterargument so far, and hard to come up with something to refute it. The only thing I can say to this is we need to be more overt about identifying what our culture entails.

It's not me flushing our culture down the toilet, I feel that happened over the course of centuries.

I'm not against our culture, I'm just saying it's not that extensive.

Nothing really there to disagree with, but it's pretty sad.

> revive it
What do you do to revive Dutch culture?

Freedom isn't a culture, even though freedom is obviously a great thing.

To be honest, I don't even care that (in my opinion) we have a fairly limited culture. I personally don't even really care for traditions and stuff, I'm a very practical minded person, like my ancestors. I value business, politics and living standards over culture. But I do think culture binds people together and if our culture was more extensive I feel like we would resist immigration more.

I think I'm pretty much the same as you in that regard. I do feel like our society would be stronger with a bit more shared culture though. In almost every other aspects I think we are doing pretty well.

Pay.

>go to the deep of the unknown
>confront dragon
>rescue your father
>sort yourself out

And that's no joke

What kind of armour should I bring? Any good spells?

Take a bus, go to your nextdoor euro country, book a youth hostel or some cheapo hotel for a few days and see just how differently they do things compared to you.

Everything you notice that they do different from you? That's your culture compared to theirs. The food you eat that they dont? Culture. The kind of curtains you use on the windows? Culture. The dos and donts for having another person around at your house? Culture.

You're just so used to what you have that you don't notice it, or think that some old folk tradition and dance is what counts.

how bout (You) pay for it .

You're young and have no perspective. You probably don't even understand half of your culture. It's the nature of familiar things to become like wallpaper and new stuff to stand out as exciting. It's like being a young fish in water--it takes a decade or two of being an adult to appreciate one's own culture in comparison to others.

This is pretty convincing.

No. Fucking beggar.

I'm 26. How old are you? That does mean I haven't been an adult for two decades, so I'll get back to you in 10 years and see how I feel.

beggars beg, I'm flat out denyinh you fucking imbecile

>duits kikes, what to expect less than a double fail

You guys didn't seem to have a problem begging for loans before.

oh you're that sad fucker arent you? the
>I might be a bitch
one

Yeah not worth a real reply.

That's not true bro
Netherlands It's an amazing place. You have a GREAT history just as every single country in Europe.

I dont think you would care for our culture as much as others if you Saw it, just like me. But yes our culture is not being pushed or even held back. And this is bad for the people and our narrative. I think you see the objective value. why would you look for emotions about it when emotions are not your strength but your objectiveness is?

>ur all atheists
Stop pretending you know shit about the Netherlands.

41. In the last 5 year for instance, I've reconsidered nearly everything I thought I understood as a late teen/20 something. Many things are not what they appeared to be at that age.

You make no sense, poorfag. Fucking Beggaropolous. What happened? All your education budget got spent on BMW's for low level government officials?

All the Greeks in America are crooks (mostly tax evaders) but at least they are hard workers.

It's a great place to live and we do have a great history, but IMO we are a little boring. Definately a first world problem though.

Agreed, we are not a very emotional people and objectivity is indeed our strength. But everything has its downside, elk voordeel heb z'n nadeel. I think it does undermine our cohesiveness and national identity.

Over half of us are atheist though.

This is why it's important to respect your elders. Although your perspective might still change again, if you have been thinking and debating about this for longer than me, you are probably a few steps ahead of me.

I had a Greek girlfriend. She was trying to be a hard worker but it was weighing very heavily on her to work a 40 hour week. It basically ruined her. I think it was more of a generational thing than a Greek thing though.

>Not proud

I want New York back.

I think the ones that went to America self-selected. They came here and opened a restaurant (usually selling fraudulent pizza, "greek pizza" they call it) work 80 hours a week, and do well. They spoil the fuck out of their sons though, and the millennial Greek boys are often useless because of it.

Some of the Greek girls are fine as fuck though. Some have huge Turk Schnozzes and arched brows though.

>dutch ancestry traced back less than 300 years
>dutch

The Duke of York was kind of a pussy, for shame. But New Netherlands was too mutlicultural to effectively resist. You guys were just a corporation and had no unity or care for it. A lesson there.

On the bright side, our Bill of Rights was inspired by New Amsterdam traditions.

Yes we agree, but we are talking about you. I do believe, assuming you are a INTJ or INTP since we are on pol and you identified with being emotionaly numb, you will develop things like caring for your health, people around you, and nation around the age of 35. Just be, push the said culture and our narrative. Dont whine about shit. Maybe get some more testosterone

stop wearing wooden shoes you fucking toothpaste losers

Mine was blonde with extremely blue eyes. She was an only child, and that spoiled attitude definately shined through. Couldn't handle any stress or any difficult situations. The break up was horrible because she couldn't confront me and be real with me so she just shut down and started talking and meeting less and less, to the point where I had to break up because she couldn't handle confrontation.

Whatever, best I can do.

Sounds a lot like our current society.

we need pics

Wtf is up with the culture meme anyway. The reason peiple dont want dirty sand coons in their country is because they dont want thosr backwards thinking, inbred dusgusting people as a demographic in the population.

I like shish kabob, I just want it served to me by a pretty white girl is all.

INTP
Maybe those things have to do with having children too, can't really take the black pill and still have the motivation to create a better world for your kids. Don't taken this as whining though. It's just observations. I don't sleep any less because of this. And I'm probably good on testosterone, I don't really have any feminine tendencies and I can't stand the fact that my generation has been turned into such bitches.

Not gonna post pics, but you'd be surprised how blonde and blue eyed Greeks can be.

Sounds good.