Men saying “no thanks” to college

>Maxwell is among a generation of young men who increasingly are turning their backs on colleges, universities and the associated degrees — either dropping out of upper-level learning or never considering it a viable option.

>Some of the young men shunning campus say they don’t want to take on massive student-loan debt.

>“If you don’t want to go to college you can go to a trade school and come away with something and not be on the hook for $150,000,” said 28-year-old Adam Stark, who dropped out of college and now is thriving in the music business in Denver.

>Others say the campus environment has become testy, even hostile, toward men. “You definitely get the sense you are the problem,” said Maxwell. “One woman once told me that she could use statistics to determine how many of my friends were rapists.”

>Whatever the reason, enrollment data show men are becoming less of a presence on college campuses both in Colorado and across the United States.

denverpost.com/2017/06/04/men-women-college-proportion/


An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", instead of going to college, climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income that will allow them to buy a home in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.

Stop neglecting your responsibilities!

is that webm supposed to be sexy?
what the fuck is wrong with you
sage

shut the fuck up you salty dried up cunt you dont matter no matter how many times you attempt to bullshit us on these boards fuck you die

lol, college is a scam. You can just get a job and save money. Getting a student loan is a retarded idea unless you have money.

get raped bitch

>an just get a job and save money.

You can get a minimum wage job, but with the way rents are exploding all across the country while wages remain stagnant, you won't be saving shit!

Stop being fucking sluts, even one partner is too much.

Maxwell is right. There are tons of different ways to get ahead in life and college is not becoming one of them.

I got a trade and now I'm making more than I know what to do with.

>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", instead of going to college, climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income that will allow them to buy a home in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.

Compared to:

>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", while going to college; instead of climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income that will allow them to buy a home in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.

lol

What do you do?

I got you senpai

Electrical Engineer.
Pretty decent money honestly. I also live a simple lifestyle and just don't spend much so I end up with a lot of extra.
Got a truck, nice computer, some game systems and I keep my place clean and stocked.
It's comfy desu.

>>>/reddit/

>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros", instead of going to college, climbing the corporate ladder, and securing an income
Brits have been doing this for decades.
The whole parklife thing, and beyond.
Pretty sad.

>get electrician apprenticeship

>pay only $100 a semester

>get paid while I work

>classroom material doesn't waste time with worthless liberal arts

>finish in five years, can immediately get jobs paying as high as $30

Why should I go to college again? To be forced into gender sensitivity workshops and (((art))) classes and pay thousands a year to be told how evil I am for being a man while the Marxist professor tries to shill the "benefits" of socialism to me?

Learn a trade, something that takes a little skill and make yourself useful. Robots are going to take all those stupid menial jobs soon anyways.

>Becoming a wagecuck to a system that hates you and wants to destroy you...
WEEW, LAD.

Men and women shouldn't be around each other after the age of 10

They hold each other back educationally due to puberty differences

In the workplace it's a different culture too

I bet in the 1950s male workplaces (with a few women secretaries / cleaners) were far more productive, relative to the technology at hand

"Feminists" or women generally don't want to be physically separated from men because they know men will pick up the slack

College for women is mostly socialising and dating opportunities and female college debt is a burden on society, either married men have to divert resources indirectly to pay it off or women enter make-work jobs in human resources

I'm learning a trade does that count?

I can't wait until successful women start marrying each other, and leave these men in the dust. Women will be buying beautiful houses in lush scenic areas, going on vacations, eating healthy food, and become more and more beautiful, and more and more off limits to you plebs. Men will all be living in trailers, drinking cheap beer, and driving a truck that is falling apart. Men will still do the physical work like construction, but the pay will be less and less. Won't men resist, you ask?
Haha! The funniest part is that it will be other men who enforce such a system. Like fucking dogs, led around by your dicks. Payback is a bitch indeed.

>muh I can be a stay-at-home-dad
In your dreams, Mr. defective chromosome.

It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY as a male to:

A) Become a taxpaying citizen.
B) Get married and start a family.
C) Make sure your children ALSO becoming taxpaying citizens and start a family.

Your fathers bought into this "societal social contract". They got good jobs, paid their taxes, and had kids.

If you DON'T continue the cycle, the SYSTEM will CRASH. If that happens, you can kiss society GOODBYE.

In fact, we're seeing signs the system is on its way to crashing right now. Why do you think governments are concerned about birthrates and immigration? If not enough people pay taxes and raise kids who will pay taxes as well, society will crash and there will be chaos in the streets.

Did you get an apprenticeship right off the bat or did you go through college first?

This thread makes me even more ambivalent about going to University. It feels like OP is using peer pressure and the need for social acceptance in order to make people feel bad about not going to college. Damn I hate our times.

I support trades but if we white men vacate universities than were also vacating the positions of power in society. CEOs, politicians, thinks like that.

With this in mind im 18 and dont know what to do. I can either do trades or law any advice?

Fuck off jew

Good luck getting the niggere and spics doing your work cuz we all know they are retarded and can't do it.

I must impregnate

Who is this spunk monkey?

>>Some of the young men shunning campus say they don’t want to take on massive student-loan debt.

Colleges are now SJW indoctrination centers. Crazy to send your kid to a cult much less pay $100,000 for the privilege of doing so.

fuck off dad

>Women
>Successful
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Pretty good bait. You even made it sound like your character was trying to convince herself.

I lucked out and a friend recommended it to me. I talked with my a guy and he liked me so he gave me a shot.
Gave me a job and helped me pay for trade school.

>caring for this sick, degenerate jewified society
This fuckin' good goy.

You mean like some of those in my family that got out of highschool and quickly found a nice paying blue collar job? You mean THAT social contract? Where is it now? If you can find it I would love to have it.

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Electrical engineer was my first choice. I settled on mechanic and a ton of related certificates(collusion repair, motorsports fabrication and engineering, etc). It's a good trade with tons of different skills.

she's gross

Lel. I want society to crash so I can afford a house and do those things you say.

Society crashing is literally the only hope to get some respite from mass immigration. So being a neet, or just working and fucking sluts is actually based as fuck.

>went to uni
>have decent job
>not autistic
>still no gf
>have several friends with the same issue

This isn't a bad thing.
We need a higher education revolution to cast off the degree mill mentality of universities. Men are just becoming fiscally "awake". They're unwilling to go 30 grand or more into debt just for a worthless piece of paper when by and large you can get the same, or a better education on your own by doing things, or go to a trade school and make a very comfortable salary with good benefits and without most of the ratrace feel. Colleges need to get back to the basics.

Decide for yourself, it's the only real freedom you have

Going to college does not help your odds of getting a job any more. All that matters are connections, that's literally it.

And so humanity once again creates a rift between peasant and royalty, a new future slave generation is forming...

not going to college = making money and having the possibility of affording a family when you feel like it

going to college = massive student debts that permanently destroy your ability to buy things like a home, a car, an education for your kid, life insurance, etc

>in order to become "marriage material", attract a wife, and start a family.

All women are whores, why the fuck marry them? Why should I give a fuck what a woman thinks about me? I can start a family at any time by impregnating any whore I can bed. Yet, why should I let myself get tied down to one of these cumdumpsters so that they can try to dictate the terms of my existence? Fuck that.

we recognize the future
all productive work automated
women and minorities given makework prestigious positions
white men other than chad and geniuses in the fucking gutter
why bother putting ourself into debt when were already fucked
enjoy the semi skilled labor were still allowed to have and hunker down for what is hopefully a race war but will probably just be a slow genocide of our kind

no problem. peterson has taken on the task to move university into the internet and make it great again.

>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros"

Sounds exactly like college

I dropped out last year, started trade school two weeks ago.
Fucking loving it!
Class is basically learn what you need to learn that day while shooting the shit and talking like men do while not having to worry about who I might "trigger"
I'm going HVAC so come summer life is going to suck but I'll be making more money than if I had stayed in microbio while at the same time have what is essentially complete job security since I live in AZ.
Best decision I've made to date.

FUCK OFF BOOMER AND YOUR FUCKING SHIT STOCK MARKET
IVE MADE HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS OFF BITCOINS AND ALL I DAY IS JERK OFF AND PRESS SOME BUTTONS.
REEEE FUCKING BOOMERS

Depends on the trade. If it's heating and cooling, you're an idiot

Why not go to a Christian university so you don't have to put up with this harassment?

>implying
Society lost a little more than 60 years ago

>be me
>go to uni
>get degree
>land job
>make $80,000
>be the boss of some random Sup Forumsack and if he speaks up or spergs out, I'll fire his ass right then and there, giving him a well needed wake-up call
this board is satirical you dumb fucks
this board is to satirize and parody politics
the more you "go down the rabbit hole," the more "redpills" you swallow, the more unemployable and unfuckable you become

>electrical engineer
>trade school

Do they give out engineer diplomas without 4 years of ed over there?

(((YOUR ENTIRE POST)))

whats wrong with heating and cooling seems pretty permanently needed

I almost got a degree in environmental biology.
But midway through my junior year I said screw this debt and 'maybe' job prospects, left college and took up HVAC. I make 70k a year without trying and could do 100k if I wanted.

EVERYONE needs trades. Everyone needs their air conditioning, their furnace to run, their electricity, their plumbing and their auto mechanics. And at 2pm on a roasting hot sunday afternoon in august, their air conditioner will fail, and they will pay whatever I ask. Its $200 for me to just show up in their driveway on weekend emergencies. Because tradespeople are in short supply. And robots are never going to be able to drive to your house, wade through your kids and cats to get to your damp basement, down your steep steps, and behind your christmas decorations to your furnace and figure out why its coming on but you aren't getting heat.

Nobody needs you, oh college degree holder. There are a million of you sitting around who cant find jobs in their degrees and have to struggle by working at a starbucks, sending out resumes, and sweating their student loans. There is a glut of you and you're putting yourselves into 80k debt for 40k/professions. But everyone --everybody-- needs trades.

probably an electrician.

they make bank.

And all those who shunned college and can't get a good job will push for socialist ideas to help them and the rest of the populace. I don't really see the problem here.

Why not consider Comp Sci?

>If it's heating and cooling, you're an idiot
why m8? I'll start at about 18-25 and hour depending on where I land with commission on any new components I sell (install) on calls on top of all that. Then when I take the shortage on HVAC technicians in this state it's a solid move.

you lucky mofo

this

This is a good thing. Less men in college means less liberals.

>An entire generation of men playing video games, indulging in Internet pornography, and hanging out drinking with their "bros"
In other words Sup Forumstards

This isn't a bad thing.

Your problem will be when they go full national socialist

Theyre saying some degrees are not worth it. Obviously universities arent entirely useless.

>my ID is even red

men live far better without the system than women

the system was set up to protect women. once it falls, nature in all it's horrible glory will return.

cannon fodder.

They're being dumb. College loan forgiveness is coming, the next Democrat president will push it through, the smart thing to do is taking on 500k of student debt and getting a medical degree, then letting the suckers pay for it.

>as high as $30

oh sweety

Almost all of them are useless unless you go to a top tier university or get higher than 3.8 gpa.

They've lowered standards so much to rake in that student loan money that it doesnt even matter what degree you get.

Why are all these articles basically
>REEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW DARE YOU NOT SPEND YOUR MONEY BLINDLY REEEEE REEEEEE GIVE ME YOUR MONEY, GIVE IT REEEEEEE

Same with shit like the golf industry and buffalo fuck wings or whatever it's called.

How do you know if someone is an engineer? Don't worry, they'll always tell you. Enjoy pushing paper for the rest of your life.

It's not my job to go into debt, and support a bitch and her kids after she hops off the cock carousel.

>bunch of men on college campus
>THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE WE NEED GENDER EQUALITY
>number of men at college drastically drops
>THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE MEN NEED TO GO TO COLLEGE

You can do it to man.
You just have to go out there and look. There are plenty of places looking for dedicated young dudes who want to learn the trade.

GIB SHEKELS GOYIM!

GIB SHEKELS NOW!

SHREEEEEEEEEEEEE

it was a sickle and hammer not sickle and a cross, deepshit

and fuck your (((socialism)))

I try to learn as much as I can everyday but there's no way I'm going to labour camp when the jews call in the 50k of debt to be '''taught''' by some feminazi on a jewish curriculum only to find myself in the same bread line as some fresh off the boat nigger, vying for the favour of some roastie with broken dna and beat up brainlet cunt whilst living in the cuck shed that takes five sixths of my income.

I'll always wonder what might have been if the jews didn't place a target on my ass marked JUST but then I think of all the loneliness endured, all the pills swallowed and regurgitated. the bros with whom I shared more emotions and thoughts whose name I need not know. Sure, i'm broke, have less status than a nigger on the street, but in this fiat jew world that will probably collapse tomorrow at least I have my balls and the will to survive which I definitely wouldn't have if I chose the 'higher education' jew.

economics

sofware systems
> 4 year degree costs 80k
>can earn 100k

HVAC
>year course certified 4k
>can earn 100k

seems pretty simple. Im ahead of someone who goes the comp sci route by 3 years, and 0 debt. after starting work as an HVAC tech and receiving a paycheck, THEN I can add epa certifications and additional courses as I want (and can afford) them to improve my earning potential and marketability

My kids can kiss society goodbye...oh wait nevermind oh well RIP.

Exquisite pasta lad

>7 days left from knowing my university entrance exam results
>hopefully electronics and industrial automation

wish me luck anons

>I'm learning a trade does that count?

NOPE, it doesn't. And here's why.

Women don't want "working class". They consider dating/marrying such men as "dating down". More women than ever are earning college degrees. If you don't have one, they'll view you as inferior. They'll always feel like they could do better.

They want men that they can take to social functions, and introduce to friends/colleagues, and impress everyone in the room. They don't want to take "Joe Carpenter" to that corporate luncheon, even if he owns his own local carpentry business and is pulling in six figures. They would rather take balding "Xavier Andrews" with his BA in Sociology and his $40K a year Social Worker job.

You MIGHT land a college educated woman as a working class man, but it won't last. Her biological clock will have convinced her to marry you and have kids, but deep down she'll never respect you. Eventually, you'll get divorced, and she'll take the kids and half your shit.

Your kids won't grow up to be taxpaying citizens. They'll have all sorts of mental problems. Your daughter will probably end up being a stripper or camming or some shit. She'll also be more likely to be a single mother, and thus the contract will be broken and the chances of the system crashing will increased.

You can't land a woman like this and keep her if you don't have a degree. I don't care what $100K+ a year trade you're working in and neither does she. If you're not college educated, high class women like this will always look down on you.

>be the boss of some random Sup Forumsack
>be the boss of some random sjw gender studies trigglypuff tier dyke monstrosity

Pick one user, suddenly the red pilled employee isn't such a bad shout

How do I get a job after mass automation occurs without some sort of degree?

There is someone so pathetic out there that they:

1. Find this chick attractive
2. Feel the need to secretly record her
3. Count down the days to the next convention

men are intelligent enough to learn skills online, mostly for free.

Oh hey it's one of these threads again. Please fuck off

He's not in debt for the rest of his life and can always start his own company or find ways to make even more money when you owe 100 thousand dollars for your liberal arts to degree just to be screamed at about rape culture by some pink haired lesbian.

>there are a a million of you sitting around who can't find jobs in their degrees and have to struggle by working at Starbucks, sending out resumes, and sweating their student loans
Fml, this is me. Where were you four years ago user?

>economics

Oh boy.

I actually studied economics at college. I really wish people would not throw that word out when describing the napkin math they used to justify their terrible life choices.

Imma show you why your wrong. Just gotta get my proof together.

Good post.

Keep attaching those webms, friend.

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College is a poor financial decision at this point. Leftism has made school worthless.

I'm doing financially better than a lot of my friends that went to college as a truck driver.

do you not enjoy the qt?