Homosexuality: Choice or Not?

I've met quite a few homosexuals in my lifetime and I've noticed a lot of trends in them: they all seem to have a similar lisp, have similar hand motions and ways of behaving, and all seem to have similar views on politics and life in general. So I inquire Sup Forums, is being gay a choice or not and if it is or isn't, what proof is there for that claim?

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Who fucking cares, fag

I probably should have prefaced that I am not a fag.

You made this thread, you're definitely a fag.

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Some people are born gay, but it's very rare. Maybe 1 out of 10,000. Even then, it's still a choice. Might not be happy being straight, but whatever, still a choice.

The rest of the fags are just being edgy or have been influenced into being gay.

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I may be gay but you are a faggot, OP. You could have at least gone into some depth about your opinions and at least looked up some links for news and scientific sources to back up your claim but no, you couldn't be bothered to post more than a few sentences of limpid bait. I hope you are buggered with a red hot poker.

I'm a rwds supporting gay without a lisp or any sense of flamboyance but people seem to pick up on my penchant for dicks by the tone of my voice or something. My voice isn't very deep.

Being gay is cool, and people want to be cool. So it's a choice.

far right faggot here

in honesty, im not sure if its a choice or not. my case was kind of odd in that i used to be the typical straight guy, until the other sexuality was there and right in front of my face. then either subconsciously or not, my brain was like "ey fug thats neat"

Op is always a fag.

Also whenever you begin a discussion with "I'm not x, but y," then y invariably proves your status as x.

>homosexuals all seem to have a similar lisp, hand motions and ways of behaving, and views on politics and life in general.
>is being gay a choice
>is there proof

Right now, the same people that ruin a Nobel Prize winner's career for speaking frankly about race are the ones funding studies about gays. Anything that doesn't support (((their))) views about homosexuals doesn't get funded, which means we are still in the infancy of our understanding. There isn't *proof* of almost anything concerning the anomaly of homosexuality, but from all my research and reading between the lines, this is what I've come up with:
>around 1% of the population is born gay.
>the other 2% of self-described gays are the result of environmental factors, such as sexual abuse at an early age
>the ones who have convinced themselves they are gay to bury the pain of sexual abuse seem to emulate the "gay culture", ie lisp, gestures, and ideology, at much higher rates

This is why they are trying to normalize pedophilia now. They want more "oppressed" people to "join the resistance", and fucking little kids, especially boys, makes plenty of new faggots that become pawns of the marxists.

>far right
>faggots
Haha nah go back to your orgies and mixed drinks

or try and have intellegent discourse without people like you falling to the lowest part of the puramid :^)

Queers must be executed, faggots lovers back to plebbit

Mixed drinks are disgusting. I like wine, whiskey and rum.

I think it's a choice of how to respond to trauma.

You get molested, then you choose whether or not you blame God or try to deal with it. If you blame God you become a faggot. Otherwise it's just some shit you have to deal with.

>nearly every faggot was molested, but not every victim of molestation is a faggot.

It's scientifically proven to be genetic

What about gays who were not molested?

OUT WITH YE DEMONS, YOU HATH RETURN TO THE LORD AND ABANDON YOUR SINFUL WAYS, BEGONE FAGGOTS

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>Implying he had a source for that bullshit

>Scientifically proven

I don't have a source, it's a hypothesis. Until funding can be provided for more diverse approaches to the subject, it will remain a hypothesis. But, that hypothesis explains many things, such as why some people who weren't molested ended up gay.

[Citation needed]

>until funding can be provided for Christian-based discrimination with no root in science.

You just wait right here, sugarplum.

We won't have actual good data comparing gay married couples and straight ones until 2040.

You just WANT being gay to be a choice so badly because it confirms other elements of your worldview, despite no non-religious evidence of it.

Nice projections faggot. I specifically said ~1% of the population appears to be born that way, but even knowing that, you can't just ignore the huge correlation between little boys who happened to get molested that end up becoming faggots. That is the research that needs to be done, and it won't as long as the PC police are funding research.

Sexuality is complicated. Boiling it down to a simple matter of choice is fucking retarded and demonstrably incorrect.

Yeah and you have no fucking source for that.

To add to that, not all gay people are as you described, not even most of them. There are plenty of conservative gays out there.

Do you know any male homosexuals?

In the Bible it says people become gay because they understand that God exists, but don't see fit to acknowledge him as God.

To me it's like God allowing them to do unnatural acts because they have done The Most unnatural thing: recognize the existence of God and dismiss it as an irrelevant fact.

Yup

Doesn't mean anecdotal evidence matters.

>bible
>evidence

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>Doesn't mean anecdotal evidence matters.
How's this for anecdotal?
patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/

And yes, anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything, but using it properly can help refine a hypothesis so you can efficiently research a subject. And from the very small body of data that exists, it's reasonable to assume that 2 out of 3 homosexual men you know were molested as children. Me saying that as an user on a korean clover harvesting site isn't going to convince you, but you taking initiative and asking them for yourself will go a long way.

The word of God is the foundation of western civilization.

If you reject it you are just as bad as any Muslim, faggot, liberal, or cuck.

No it is not. You just want to inflate molestation stats so people cannot say being gay is inborn and therefore discrimination on that basis ought to be restricted.

>it's reasonable to assume that 2 out of 3 homosexual men you know were molested as children.
No it isn't retard. You are pulling that stat from out of your ass.

>No it is not
>No it isn't retard

Nice argument

Congratulations you just realized groups have cultural traits

You didn't make an argument, you made a blanket statement with no evidence to support it.

Someone post that video of Sam Hyde talking about gays in front of a room full of angry libshits. I can't remember for the life of me what it was called or what it was but it completely changed my perspective. It's all good and well when he's being edgy and funny but then you go to research it all and he's actually right...

tl;dr being gay is a perversion and often stems from childhood sexual trauma/being molested

I claimed the correlation between homosexuals and molestation victims cannot be ignored. I may be slightly off on my 1% claim, but even if I'm way off, it doesn't change the extreme correlation that hasn't been sufficiently explained.

Not a choice. Lifelong celibacy is a choice I made in response to homosexuality, but the fact that men activate my sexual instincts has been with me forever. Wasnt molested, so not sure why.

That gays often fall prey to molestation. Why is that so hard to understand?

Im Gay and your a retard

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That would imply the molesters seek out already gay kids, but in reality the molester's actions seem to be mostly motivated by convenience and proximity.

It's their choice to indulge their unnatural and sick perversions. They need to push their sickness down and stay in the closet or face death.

Nope they seek out gay kids because they are already weaker, more vulnerable, and likely to be more isolated.

With increasing visibility of minor LGBT kids I think molestation rates should drop, at least in the White community. Keep in mind a lot of this happens in minority communities where the gay kids fear telling anyone anyways so it keeps happening.

Im gay and i was molested as a child. Imo being gay has alot to do with being sexually active at an early age.

>my personal story has a wider meaning

no it does not.

There's no need to be celibate mate. Go out and have as much penis as your heart desires.

I would say the smallest percent are actually "born with it" as the rest either come for psychological fuck-ups in life and also just pure perversion.

No matter how they come to be a faggot, they are still faggots and we should be against them

shut up faggot, the same thing happened to me.

I think of homosexuality as more of a practice than a choice

>Nope they seek out gay kids because they are already weaker, more vulnerable, and likely to be more isolated.
How can you arrive at this conclusion? What data is there to support this? How can you think the molesters are seeking out such a small percentage of the population, basically a needle in the haystack, when in reality it's usually very close friends/family where the molestation occurs.

It just so happens that many gay people ade personality-defficient. Trends and mannerisms spread like wildfire among gay people. Everyone copies everyone copies everyone.

What im saying is that a lot of gay poeple became sexually active at a young age for one reason or another.

No need to get sassy.

I was sexually active at a young age too, but it was with girls of a similar age. "Gay" children are almost always sexually active with someone a decade or more their senior.

That's just my guess but I am not claiming something as outrageous as that 2/3 of gay kids were molested.

You are saying that without evidence and implying that it causes their sexuality.

Never said that lol fucking retard

>I am not claiming something as outrageous as that 2/3 of gay kids were molested.
>outrageous
pic related

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It's kind of hard to cherry pick when there's so little research that's been done. I'm an atheist, and really have no dog in this fight besides the truth, and I all I want is more research into this reasonable hypothesis.

My belief is that being homosexual in some circumstances is a choice and others it is not.

Childhood molestation and emotional trauma has been linked to homosexuality in later years, being sexually molested is not a choice.

Many people get "gay thoughts/moments" at least once in their life choosing to act on it makes them dive deeper into perversions slowly turning themselves gay.

Studies have shown pornography makes people more comfortable with homosexuality.

Regular porn > Hardcore porn > Fetish porn > Tranny porn > gay porn. It's my personal opinion that porn fetishes if feed enough can lead to total homosexuality and other perversions.

It is called complex ptsd and what most people call faggots are disassociated persons. Not always gay, sometimes the abuse is heterosexual, or neglect/violence/illness/losing a parent etc. They are doomed to reenact their trauma until they have worked through it. Is that clear enough?

You can usually tell at what age they were abused, because it arrests development.

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>You can usually tell at what age they were abused, because it arrests development.
Now that would be a study I'd like to read. I wonder if Jordan Peterson would be interested in doing that in one of his clinics.

I just ask gay people I meet because I'm not a retard.

Most say this "I didnt really pay attention until puberty and then I noticed I was attracted to men" and a lot of them try to be straight first. Had one say he was so ashamed of being gay he tried having sex with girls just to try and be straight. He said he saw her titties bouncing around and didnt know what to do with them and wasnt excited by them so he closed his eyes and pretended she was a guy.

Another guy I asked said he always knew but tried it with girls anyway just to be normal and thought he might be able to do it and repress his homosexual desires but then the girl had her period on him and he was so disgusted by it he just accepted his homosexuality.

Now I dont know about you guys but I dont repress any urges like that. You'd have to be born with them. I dont believe in any religion but yet I'm not attracted to guys at all. So how is the devil tempting them but not me? Fucking retards.

Homosexuality is either the result of mental illness (thus not a choice) or because of certain social influences such as some loser not getting enough attention or feeling wanted, a desire to be more unique/special and other bullshit like that (thus is a choice).

Wow amazing theory. Have you considered becoming a scientist?

Faggotry is either a mentall illness or a genetic flaw.It needs to be kept in the closet or removed completly from society.
When we let the faggots out what did we get?!Fagg parades and the absolute cancer that is lgbtq,we have 8 year old kids going trans and fagg.This shit needs to get gassed asap.

Wow amazing theory. Have you considered becoming a cunt?

I'd rather have a single mate I can love my whole life from which a family emerges. Blowing guys is thrilling but its not the same by a longshot.

How do you deal with cut dick tho? Blowing cutfags kind of sucks, they're desensitized and take forever to cum

>Many people get "gay thoughts/moments" at least once in their life

Considering how much faggotry is thrown in everyone's face in today's media, no matter how straight a guy is, it's literally impossible to not have a "gay thought" at some point. Turn on the TV flipping through channels and see outrageous homo nonsense, see the cover of some faggot magazine during checkout at a store, seeing news coverage about LGBT nonsense... can't avoid it.

Of course, there's obviously a huge variance pertaining to how gay a thought may or may not be. Visualizing in your mind the actual act of butt sex is different than some random thought about faggot shit because it's thrown in your face constantly so...

The actual act of faggot sex is horrendously vile and I wish that amongst white people, homosexuality would be looked upon as such a monumentally radical degree of abomination, it would be extraordinarily rare. The more faggots among other races though, the better.

It's a choice to act upon it or not. You can have the desire to suck a cock 24/7, but you don't have to do it.

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Homosexuality is a sign of mental retardation. Faggots like OP arent humans

Don't do it man. It's not fair to your prospective partner or you.

>You can have the desire to suck a cock 24/7

Speaking from experience?

very well said

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What's the deal with bisexuals?

There is literally nothing wrong with appreciating and admiring beautiful uncut dick and wanting to get intimate with it 24/7.

They like cock and pussy. It's not that complicated.

Not really, I am just giving an example. If I wished to suck a cock I wouldn't do it though, because shame is eternal.

I do mire guys who are well-built, strong and who have worked on their bodies, though, but I don't see how that is gay. I just respect them/want to be like them.

That other user is correct. You should stop being grotesque faggots and refrain from posting further stupendously idiotic comments, you magnificent dullards.

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Having anything on your mind 24/7 is obsession.

Your vagina has no power here, little snowflake.

It's called the 'faggot taint'

That's how in the old days the saber-toothed cats used to sense the weakest prey. It's a well known fact in scientific circles

Good... but don't ever let that miring turn into anything more faggoty... and if it does, kys asap.

Being effeminite is not being gay but because people assume that effeminite guys are gay they end upfitting the stereotype.
These are the gays you see.
There are lots of gays who are not like that at all (me and my partner aren't but we are bi so might not count). For us, being in a gay relationshipis a choice because women do our heads in for anything other than sex.

This.

>the 'faggot taint'
commonly known as glitter

Go turn on some German Shiza porn while crying in the corner of your room and gtfo you marvelously enormous faggot.

has a good point - sexuality is much more complicated than most people think or admit.

Being attracted to people of the same sex and not being attracted to people of the opposite sex are not the same thing.

Why do you describe the choice you've made as "lifelong celibacy" when your next post indicates that's neither what you want nor what you've done?

I forgot how utterly shite early American hours Sup Forums is... Jesus Christ it's embarrassing. There are feminine gay men and masculine gay men, that simple. Now get the fuck out with you're shit thread underage little fag. Sage

You have an impressive level of mental deficiencies!