Time to grow the fuck up and embrace Islam

You know its true so stop trying to fight it. Islam is the only belief system that can save us from degeneracy and the downward spiral into the abyss. The west is morally and spiritually bankrupt and at this point in time only Islam offers the strength and guidance to make our civilization great again.

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Muslims are even worse than we are. At least here incest, pedophilia and beastiality are still regarded as diagusting, but in the ME they're common.

Pot, kettle, black

Lebanese please leave

True blue Aussie here mate. My family has been here 5 generations.

Not an argument. How can they save us if they're worse than us?

This! Muslims only behave, because they get beaten to death if they don't.
In the western world people have to regulate themselves. That is why we have degenerates, but also the most successful ubermenschen.

Because they are not worse than us, you're just regurgitating baseless slurs. In a contest of degeneracy the west wins hands down. This is simply the truth and cannot be disputed.

Not even. Any perception of Muslim purity is completely superficial. Name anything that's bad in the west and it'll be worse in the Middle East.

Go ahead and name something.

You just admitted Muslim societies have standards of decency and we do not.

we must europeanize it just like we did to christianity

Do you really think so? In Muslim countries it's very easy to commit any sort of degeneracy. Maybe not in the Arab countries but the others easily. However, what's completely not tolerated is proudly displaying your degenerate behavior. Do whatever you want to do privately, but the second you try to act like it's fine and get others to accept it, you get snuffed.

Muslim societies aren't the best, not by a mile. But some of them even pol would appreciate.

Ok, sexually transmitted diseases. Go for it.

is this a true representation of what both sides are. You can say the wasted bitches are shia and the islam are sunni muslims.

The west is the way it is because of secularism and Jewish Bolshevism

We don't need Islam, Christianity is at our core and what helped drive whites to greatness. We must embrace Christ once more. I don't need a moon-worshipping desert cult

Fpbp

>it's very easy to commit any sort of degeneracy
It isn't. Hard as fuck actually.

They think the west can disarm Islam and create a new type of western Muslim the way it deconstructed all of our values so effectively.

No one will embrace Islam unless they see no other option and the typical normie cares too much about the usual (((feminist))) degeneracy to ever be on board willingly.

If it were to reform under whitey and shove most of the sandniggers to the side it could easily dominate the west, as it is it's too alien and anti white.

I swear when we reclaim you all of you fags will be fed to gyppos

Islam is strong? They are so strong that they are fleeing their backwoods 3rd world shit holes in droves and can't maintain a civilized society without revolutions every 10 years.

The West is soft, but it is a weakness that can be cured with a cold dose of reality. This post-modernist bullshit has got to go.

>implying Islam will not go through a (((Reformation))) once it has taken over Europe
>implying that the degenerate lifestyle will be forbidden

But the secularism and Jewish Bolshevism occurred under Christianity's watch. Christianity failed to prevent it from taking over and is therefore utterly useless.

I used to be a hardcore Iranian nationalist who hated islam, but after seeing the alternative I rather have some aspects of islam and sharia law over my nation than to see it turn into a westernized, athiest degenerate shithole.

#moderateislamisthefuture

ipsnews.net/2014/09/arab-region-has-worlds-fastest-growing-hiv-epidemic/
Meanwhile here in Poland our numbers are low and stable, despite being Catholic and not Muslim. What's up with that?

Well in a few it's not that hard. Alcohol and drugs are widely available here and the cops keep a blind eye to this stuff. I've heard that Malaysia makes it difficult too. I'm sure that you can still be a faggot there if no one finds out

I say we take the best things from all religions and create a meta religion. I'd like to call it DontBeLowerThan70IQism.

The revolutions come from CIA/Mossad constantly fucking with them.

They come to the west for welfare because who wouldn't jump at the chance for free money. We are the ones stupid enough to be handing it out.

Shiites and Sunnis on average are alot more honor oriented than christian westerners. It's the average that counts, none should base their views on a minority.

>fast forward 10 years
>world's first transgender imam weds man and dog
>guys, we need christianity to save us

You can but they will actively do raids at places that gays frequently go to.

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Kebab.
Fit for little more than removal.

Leftist are the degenerates and the majority live in cities, out in the country side people are more often decent people. Don't need Muslims or liberals to survive.

Islam became secular before foreign funding of radicals, so clearly Islam is equally useless.

>our civilization

kek

>tfw literally a gypsy australian.

Am I, the dare I say it, the shitposting ubermensch?

Lol, yeah, those helpless fools can't be held responsible for tearing their own countries apart. Just like children, they don't deserve the blame for turning their own countries into shit holes.

The only problem with the west is the bullshit guilt a lot of liberals feel for having such an easy life. I say we give them a hard life. Let's dump them in Somalia so they can civilize those barbarians.

Fastest growing. That means they had 3 people with HIV one year and then 6 the next year. OMG 100% increase! Fastest growing! How about absolute numbers mate? I think you'll find western women are quite filthy with 85% having HPV and one third having herpes.

Islamic countries probably don't even keep stats because they are so rare.

Those goat fuckers can't even do porn right.

Locking women up isn't the solution to their mind problems. Not punishing slutty behavior isn't solution either.

That's a pretty low bar, why not just 95IQ or higher only.

True, the islamic world was heading towards degeneracy until the islamic awakenings started happening. I don't think the Islamists will win though, as this whole Islamist political movement is just a last little struggle and desperate plead for the muslim world to unite into a caliphate to make it great again, but that's not gonna happen as most muslims are not on board due to linguistic, cultural, sect and ethnic differences. In a hundred years the pic to the right will represent both muslim and non-muslim woman.

Then you have at least 5 people to kill today
... chop chop

>German flag
>"ubermenschen"

Guten Tag Mohammed, wie geht's mit deinen Einbürgerungstest?

Please actually read the article. They don't keep stats to save face, but their HIV deaths are mounting fast despite them ignoring it.

a man to even surpass the leaf

>australia

>Lose our social economic freedom for pussy

OP, black dick out of mouth now! Why not just strip women of the right to vote amongst other things instead?

>because blue pillers are both retarded and pussy whorshippers

Oh and besides, if you view them so highly despite what I've said, then please go ahead and convert and move to the Middle East.

Are you denying that America and Israel deliberately destabilize Middle Eastern governments? Getting them to fight each other and be in a constant state of chaos has been the official US/Israel policy for 50 years. And if they cannot overthrow a government that way they usually invade.

> taking an ideology that generates low key gold digging whores over an ideology that generates openly whores.

In one scenario I get to fuck said whore in the other only boy pussy, my own daughters and certain animals are the only option of sticking my cock.

The only thing I find attractive of Islam is honor killing, it must be kind of cool to rape a girl and just point your finger at her for a bunch of animals to stone her to death or maybe not I'll never know cuz fuck Islam

Are you denying that subhuman savage Muslims fight each other without others getting involved? The weakening of Muslim nations of the last 100 years is the best thing that's ever happened to the planet and humanity at large.

>grow up

>embrace tenthead religion from a billion years ago

pick one

It's hard to destabilize something that was never a coherent unit to begin with. All these countries were shit holes without borders until the Europeans colonized them anyway. The last successful civilization in Africa was Carthage, and they were Jews. North Africa and the Middle East has been the stomping grounds for Crusaders and Mongols ever since.

Your nation has "gay marriage" and they do not. Who is the more civilized?

They would be living in 1400AD by every metric except just their minds if it weren't for Western charity uplifting them with electricity and internet.

No the problem begins when you create a nation based on geography and not on ethnicity, colonial powers forced different groups together and conflict was the natural result.

The greatest proof that Islam is not true is ironically the Quran itself.

If we take the Bible and Quran and take out all the supernatural stuff you get a history book backed up by archeology and history itself. The Quran is very inconsistent with secular history.

Let's look at a few:

)Jesus of Nazareth. Not JESUS CHRIST. Remember, lets leave out the supernatural. History is pretty much in agreement that Jesus of Nazareth was a real historical figure. There is more proof of his existence then Alexander the Great and Plato. Secular history says that there was a Jesus of Nazareth. He challenged the Pharisees and Saducees. He was turned over to Pontius Pilate on false charges of sedition against Cesar. He was found innocent and still executed. End of secular history. ACCORDING TO THE QURAN. Jesus was never executed. LOL!! They executed the wrong guy. Jesus lived long, got married and had kids. End of story. This is a HUGE historical blunder. History agrees that Jesus was executed by the Romans on behalf of the Jews.

"And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain". S. 4:157 Pickthall

2)According to the Quran (Surah 18:89-98) Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age. Historical records however show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age (356 - 323 B.C.), and believed he himself was divine, forcing others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River (now Beas) Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods. Alexander died a pagan. Muhammed wasn't born until around 900 years later. How could Alexander belong to a religion that never existed yet? The Quran contradicts secular history here REALLY BADLY here.

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3)According to the Quran, IN THE BIBLE it was not Aaron that made the Golden Calf BUT A SAMARITAN that led the Israelites astray. The problem is that this incident took place at around 1400 BCE whereas the Samaria was founded in 870 BCE 530 years later. How can a Samaritan have led the Israelites astray at the time of Moses [about 1400 B.C.] when the city of Samaria was founded by King Omri in about 870 B.C. (see 1 Kings 16:24)? Imagine someone telling you they found an ancient document saying that "The New Zealander helped Christopher Columbus." The problem is that NZ didn't exist until 400 years after Columbus. It is obviously a fraud.

These are but a sample of inconsistencies in the Quran. A human historian would not have made such huge blunders. It is less likely a superior being like God himself would make such huge blunders. This book itself is so inconsistent that it proves Islam wrong from claiming inspiration from God. God would not allowed such huge messes to be let in that even a human would not have allowed.

>What was the Berber revolution
>What was the Arab revolution
Muslims would have genocided Europeans if they hadn't got shitkicked out of Tours, Vienna, and Iberia.

you done?

>The middle east is a complete shithole and muslims that come to the west rape and murder everyone, and some westerners are degenerates, therefore islam, a religion for goatfuckers who think a delusional murdering pedophile is the perfect man, is strong and will guide us back to greatness.
The West has lost its way, tradition and western identity are the solution.
>True blue Aussie
You fucking aren't.

Just look at a map of countries with legal gay marriage please, your assumed correlation is very flimsy. Not to mention that the Islamic solution to homosexuals seems to be transgenderism, just look up a list of countries with most sex change operations.

So basically, Europeans tried to civilize a bunch of barbarians, but failed because Muslims are animals.

Now that we have a lot of women who lack virtue, your solution is to import a shitty, uncivilized culture that literally think it's fun to bury people and toss stones at their head until they die.

Surely there is some middle ground that doesn't incorporate cucking out civilization to mongrels. Why don't you try Catholicism?

Yeah sure.

Damn, how come I've been here for years but have never seen this before?

>You fucking aren't.

well he's certainly baiting the fuck out of you and a lot of other user itt. so i'd say he just might be.

Middle East is shit based on what metric? Most men in the West cannot even find a decent women. that's how fucked up our society is.

>rape murder etc etc

Yeah yeah I've heard it all before, its about as true as that campus rape epidemic the feminists keep talking about I'm sure.

And no I'm not Muslim myself. But when I see evil neocon Jews constantly demonizing Islam I starting thinking that there must be something good about it. If Jews don't like something it's probably good for non-Jews.

When will your funding stop?
Then I'll come back and preach christian capitalism

My solution is to embrace what keeps their societies strong and non-degenerate.

Don't feel bad, my research on Islam just barely started. This is what I have collected so far. It is just so much that it would be worth it's own threat itself. The reason why I started this is because I've talked to ex-Muslims and all of them claim two things made them reject Islam. 1)Being the internet and 2) Reading the Quran.

Fck off, Ahmed!

Do you think we should carry on with business as usual? Just let degeneracy get steadily worse year after year? Desperate times call for desperate measures. Time to think outside of the box and try something new. Why not try Islam? It's no more foreign to Europe than Christianity was.

3) being weak fucks, 4) being degenerate

We need to be willing to accept the fact that Islam has got us beat when it comes to women's rights. We cannot allow women this much freedom. They will destroy society every time. THey can't vote properly, they can't operate independently within society effectively without a massive welfare state propping them up. They will start forming harems and aborting their own children. It becomes a nationwide shit test. "Will he let us literally murder our own children, at any time, with zero consequence, on the taxpayers dime?"

If yes, import barbarian.

RIP

>islam
>not degenerate
Why are 9 out of 10 goatfuckers muslims, then?

We've already found that Islam is clearly a worse solution that Catholicism.

>Bunch of whores going out on the town looking for dick vs woman in traditional dress.
Err your meme fails pretty hard.

>Why not try Islam?

I just answered this hereIt is a lie and not true. What you fail to understand is that when Muslims have reached their 100% there is no peace. There continues to be violence and strife. Why? Because Islam is a religion of war and struggle. If Islam cannot find anyone to oppose, it will oppose itself. In countries where atleast 90% and up is Muslim they turn on each other. In Pakistan they accuse each other of Blasphemy laws and get jailed or executed for it.

Convincing numbers, Schlomo, but back here a couple years ago when men and women had the rights cause of gommunism, they still had kids and wanted to raise them, so clearly it's not the right to vote that causes the problems, but the western culture. Perhaps voting should be restricted to property owners or tax contributors instead, that'd probably shift the balance towards men instead, and is much easier to convince people of.

Goatfucking podophile death cults are never the way user.

What you see in the west is the absense of religion, you should strive for a religion to take root in the west that isn't goatfucking pedophile dealth cults.

I don't care about the details of their religious texts and 99% of Muslims don't either. What's important is how they structure their societies to punish degeneracy and reward traditional values. That is what we need to emulate and the best vector for that change is religion.

Your argument against Islam is the equivalent of a schoolboy calling another schoolboy a poopoo head,

Your literally trying to preach for traditionalism while using degenerate logic. Utilitarianism is Liberalism.

It's different if the guy your calling a poopoo head literally has shit on his head.

Yes. That would accomplish much the same thing. Men contribute 75% of the taxes.

It might drive women to work so they can pay taxes instead of being housewives, thereby damaging traditionalism more. Something we need to think about if we're trying to Jew the western world into being traditional again.

>What's important is how they structure their societies to punish degeneracy and reward traditional values.

That's what you don't understand. They are not capable of structuring any society. They have the same problem as Indian with their Hinduism. It is self-contradictory. There idea of degeneracy is as backwards as Indians and Abbos. Their rewarding of traditional values is extremely prejudice. The system is based on abuse against women and encouraging men to be abusive to women. There is no such thing as rape against women. It is fornication and adultery whether there were witnesses or not. So women get punished but men never. Only the lower classes get punished for degeneracy whereas upper class can just bribe themselves out. Lying is encouraged up the ass by everyone no matter how bold face it is. The primary reason why the Blasphemy Law is pushed so much in Pakistan is because Islam has a rule that if a degenerate or infidel is found guilty the person who witnessed the degeneracy is rewarded by the belongings of the sinner. The primary motive for Muslims to be slandering other Muslims for blasphemy and degeneracy is because they want the accused belongings for themselves. Once the accused it executed the belongings to the accuser.

Enjoy your values.

If Women work instead of be traditional, you've already Jewed yourselves.

Hence why Islam has got us beat on womens' rights. They make sure that their women do what women need to do for civilization to survive.

I hope you have a website or at least post fairly often, this is interesting stuff.

Oh you're a student of Islamophobia huh? Probably a Polish Jew.

That's what I mean, if you make it so only taxpayers vote, then it might drive women to want to pay taxes and not be subservient to their men. Perhaps the vote should be restricted to people with 2 or more children, since usually those are conservatives anyways, but that'd be really hard to argue, much harder than taxpayer only, but still much easier than only men voting. Of course there could always be violent revolution but I don't see that happening for quite a while, unless the west is much dumber than I thought and continues to invite Muslims.

This. Plus muslim women are hyper whores compared to even the most liberal western woman

Right, Polish Catholics are famous for their love of Muslims.

Real aussies are too fucking racist. Wouldn't pull some "I like islam" stunt even for a baitpost.
>what metric
every metric
>decent women
And the way you want to fix it is by worshipping a desert pedophile's moon god.
>about as true as that campus rape epidemic
Okay sure, muslims are civilised and islam is the best for society, everything that says otherwise is lies. Islamic middle east is a paradise, you should go live there.
>If Jews don't like something it's probably good
Go huff some zyklon-B then.

>I hope you have a website or at least post fairly often, this is interesting stuff.

>answering-islam.org/

Watch out btw, that's a 2mb image, I know that's probably half your monthly limit.

Yeah, I could get behind taxpayer. Obviously, it wouldn't push women to pay taxes, it'd push women back into traditionalism and relying on a provider. Yeah, this is a smooth and palatable approach.

>Islam
>Saving us from degeneracy
>Tge west is morally and spiritually bankrupt
>Great civilization