>The state is insolvent
>The state prints currency to pay cops
>State goes into more debt
>Increased debt debases currency's purchasing power
>Cops are literally robbing the public through currency devaluation
>Cops protect insolvent state
>literal communists and criminals
Pol cannot defend this.
until mid 19th century there wasn't even a professional police force. neither was there public prosecution except for stuf like treason.
return to unpaid parish constables and private retaliation when? we really are cucked to the max. what an embarrassment to not be allowed to take right in your own hands but forced to rely on daddy state.
blue shirts must die
The state isn't a friend
Neither is the people
If a CIA nigger steps to you, whether in a state uniform or not, you run that motherfucker over
This.
The police need only uphold the common law, if anything. Beyond that the police will start enforcing corporate state extortion racket "laws".
and now, what do they do? they exist solely to protect corrupt treasonous politicians, and to establish a veneer of order and law in multicultural shitholes. they prosecute honest natives for not wearing a seatbelt and using "hate speech" on the internet. they are the ultimate cucks, tools for big government, who are obedient mercenaries to the state, oppressing the people for globalist traitors.
meanwhile if you would even stab a home robber you will go to jail for excessive self defense or some other bullshit reason, you can't get guns anywhere, you can't start a private prosecution against someone,...
I hate the modern conception of the police.
something like this but it's not communism, just an advanced form of feudalism.
>meanwhile if you would even stab a home robber you will go to jail for excessive self defense or some other bullshit reason
That's why you kill the motherfucker and plant a knife on him (if he's not armed).
You have to beat them at their own game.
are you just now realising "police" are a gang?
did you not see gangs of new york and the firemen shit? can you put together puzzles?
the common law has also long been gone, replaced by codified, amoral, rootless civil law.
>tfw no Gladstone or lord Coke to establish natural law of the land
statutory criminal law was a mistake.
No.
Im now realising that pol is largely clueless about common/natural law vs civil/statute law and my intention is to spread information about it.
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This.
its just a shame that the police aren't taught about the common law or natural law and insisting on it will get them questioning your mental state.
Or, of couse, they know well what you are saying and actively try to deceive you
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nah m8, they don't know anything about it at all. the only people who have any knowledge about the distinctions between law systems, the evolution of common law into civil law, the law of the land, common law crimes,... are lawyers, legal experts, jurists,... .
And they are educated in a progressive, civil law friendly manner where common law is merely taught as something from the past.
not to mention that the usa has done massive damage to common law with all sorts of ridiculous procedures, intricacies, rights of the defendant carried to the extreme, cliché like stuff and lawyer-vultures, stuff like no win no fee, guilty plea bargaining,...
You dont have to be a psychologist to see this guy is completely brainwashed
You're right policing should be privatized
>Hating police
Maximum degeneracy
Yeah true.
Police officers that cant prove their understanding common law should be fired for incompetence
>loving lawless all encompassing super state
Ultimate degeneracy
If you think police & military are there to protect you, your indoctrination was completed.
richtig
It's strange how people forgot just how hard Peel had to fight just to have the Bobbies of the time.
Anyway, what are some good books about Common Law and Natural Law? You know, what's not the 400 volume Blackstone commentaries.
>thread reeks of Bernout scum
If the police all quit tomorrow, your protestor "friends" would be knifing you on the streets by sundown. The police keep order for whomever YOU decide to put into power. They are a neutral party, and they protect YOU just as much as everyone else.
It's not "the" state that's the problem, it's YOUR state. Your leaders fucking despise you and they want you on your knees, or in chains.
Hating the police is typical commie-speak, and always leads to the same anti-climax; a changing of the guard.
cops wouldn't work without pay
cops wouldn't work without constant propaganda
cops wouldnt work without their powers of violent coercion
they are only 3 steps from savagery and 3 steps from non-existence
>Hating the police is typical commie-speak
Brainwashed Red-Scare moron spotted. Common Law is based on the idea that the law and order is within the hands of the PEOPLE not the state. Why do you think both our Bill of Rights guarantees the right to bear arms? Do you think the armed militia your founding fathers had in mind were illiterate red necks? No. They were community based upholders of the law.
This
muh evil state
>muh could possibly be evil how would you know until it's too late state
Learn your own history. The 800 year legal history of the Anglo has been a mistrust of the abuses of authority. Why do you think Magna Carta guarded against internment and brought in jury trial?
>wkyt.com
Yep, as big and fast and hard as they can
>image related was charged with felony for a drug pipe possession.
>the police are the illiterate rednecks
>but muh black lives matter intellectuals dindu nuffin
Law and order IS within the hands of the people, you just vote for the people who makes shitty law.
the point was its not a felony
charged with wanton endagerment cause their kids where in the house. the rest is excuses i guess to the story
anybody who says your suppsoed to kiss a cops ass is a dicksucker
>when this happened
>you just vote for the people who makes shitty law.
No "I" don't. And no, "you" don't. You can't control people once they're in power.
>Law and order IS within the hands of the people
Try and relieve a police officer and say "I'll take it from here."
>waaaah we want to riot and the police are stopping us
Because one king was shit and all the other rich cunts bullied him into signing it while the common man stayed a peasant for the next few hundred years. You vote for the politicians who bring in the immigrants the state can't do that without your approval.
What is separation of powers???
Get people voting anti immigrant parties and you get the state working for you and not left cucks. The big ebil state is not some bogyman hiding behind your curtains just waiting to stab you and enact communism. Blame the Jews for pushing communism and left thought, the state is simply a way of running things based on how people vote.
>said soros as they sent out idiots with bike-locks onto poor unsuspecting innocents
explain
>lobbying
you cant. you cant explain how things are brought up to make a law.
You can stfu
>You vote for the politicians who bring in the immigrants the state can't do that without your approval.
It has never had the approval of the people. Even at the start Enoch Powell had between 65% and a whopping 90% of the population on his side. Didn't help anything, and mass immigration has been opposed since then. There was no referendum for this.
>Get people voting anti immigrant parties
There aren't any that could match the limitless financial powers of the main political parties.
>the state is simply a way of running things based on how people vote.
Which was incredibly mistrusted by are far wiser, democracy fearing, forefathers.
Then get people lobbying for anti-immigrant policies.
It's not the states fault the Right got fucking destroyed by leftists and Jews for the last 70+ years. Get people voting anti immigrant and you get the state working for you. The state is not a bogymen it is a way of organizing a country.
>"They are paid to keep the peace"
>Antifa/communists disturb the peace
>The police act on them
>"WAAAAAHHH POLICE BRUTALITY!"
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>Then get people lobbying for anti-immigrant policies.
The state has decided that is Hate Speech, that's 2 years behind bars, "citizen".
> Get people voting anti immigrant and you get the state working for you
OK, but it turns out in a shocking twist that the people running for office lied. Oh no! Time to wait 5 more years until your establishment-selected "representatives" appear for re-election again.
In a more civilised time the locals would drive them off with their own weapons. Stop being a fucking bootlicker.
>It has never had the approval of the people. Even at the start Enoch Powell had between 65% and a whopping 90% of the population on his side. Didn't help anything, and mass immigration has been opposed since then. There was no referendum for this.
So why didn't they all keep voting far right anti immigration parties and switch parties or even create your own once they "betrayed" them?
If the majority of people really didn't want immigrants we wouldn't have them because they would never vote for those parties ever again.
>There aren't any that could match the limitless financial powers of the main political parties.
It's got nothing to do with labor being rich it's the people who back them. aka kikes
Get educated and spread the word it's why Ukip got you out of the union
>Which was incredibly mistrusted by are far wiser, democracy fearing, forefathers.
Your forefarthers kissed the kings feet and died enmass fighting to keep the king before getting btfo by Cromwell, democracy is how we got into this whole shtfest, migrate off to America if you want to get away from the "tyrannical" kings
1789 was a shit year
>the locals would
Well the locals aren't. Stop being an imbecile.
>police and military are the same
Nah bud. I served with hundreds of people and only 2 of them became cops. Very different mindset.
>federal representatives protect me from muh evil protesters
>throwing perals before swine
>The state has decided that is Hate Speech, that's 2 years behind bars, "citizen".
Because people voted to enact these laws because of the media and their upbringing. The state has no set policy if suddenly the UK was populated by libertarians the government would be gone next election.
>OK, but it turns out in a shocking twist that the people running for office lied. Oh no! Time to wait 5 more years until your establishment-selected "representatives" appear for re-election again.
It's almost like people really didn't care enough and didn't bother to switch politicians and political parties because of the media and their upbringing. If they really didn't want immigrants they would of done something more
This is you
>Right wing libertarian party voted in democratically
>Yeah democracy works fuck statists let the people run the country how they want
>Left wing government gets voted in democratically
>Fucking statists ppl are being oppressed, fuck the police they traitors
>So why didn't they all keep voting far right anti immigration parties and switch parties or even create your own once they "betrayed" them?
They did. They all switched to the party promising to take them (in another example) out of the EU by voting for the party who said they were going to do it. Spoilers: they lied.
>If the majority of people really didn't want immigrants we wouldn't have them because they would never vote for those parties ever again.
Or they just lie. The people have no provisions for forcing the state to do anything. People in the Med can't arm themselves and shoot down the "refugee" ships because they did not consent to them.
>It's got nothing to do with labor being rich it's the people who back them
Yes it does. There's no way a minor party could get even a fraction of the media play.
>Get educated and spread the word it's why Ukip got you out of the union
It took them 20 years to get to 13% of the vote. What good will waiting 20 years to finally get an anti-immigration party in when the UK is majority immigrant.
You do not have a choice in anything the state does. Only by forcibly limiting it and empowering the common people in a real and physical way can you do that.
Is that the green hornet
The police force won't allow that
Except you agree to give your rights to the state in order to enter a civil society because you see it best for stability among the community. Once you leave the civil society then you return to a state of nature, your not in one while your part of the society.
>They did. They all switched to the party promising to take them (in another example) out of the EU by voting for the party who said they were going to do it. Spoilers: they lied.
Once again if they really wanted no immigrants they would done something, they didn't they sat there because the media told them so. Blame the media not the evil state
>Or they just lie. The people have no provisions for forcing the state to do anything. People in the Med can't arm themselves and shoot down the "refugee" ships because they did not consent to them.
Well start your own party then. Oh wait you won't because your too lazy and the media will destroy you and you'll fail to convince people. It's almost like it's the media and not the state
>Yes it does. There's no way a minor party could get even a fraction of the media play.
Media play
Who owns the media? Really makes me think
>It took them 20 years to get to 13% of the vote. What good will waiting 20 years to finally get an anti-immigration party in when the UK is majority immigrant.
It's almost like the media is against white people or something
>You do not have a choice in anything the state does. Only by forcibly limiting it and empowering the common people in a real and physical way can you do that.
Get 51% of people voting to leave the EU. Vote passes Looks like it worked to me senpai
Police enforcing just law, such as finding a serious offender or stopping them from harming others, is fine.
Police taking your property with threat of force, detaining you for victimless crimes, and siding with the home invader over the home owner, isn't.
Though, this is more legislative, as the police are nothing but their enforcers.
Of course they aren't.
1. That's what they think the police are for.
2. The police would arrest THEM if they did.
>Because people voted to enact these laws
NO THEY FUCKING DIDN'T WHERE WAS THE HATE SPEECH REFERENDUM?
>because of the media and their upbringing.
Who owns the BBC?
> The state has no set policy if suddenly the UK was populated by libertarians the government would be gone next election.
No, it would be ruled by the tiny percentage that voted. Even if one person in each constituency voted that's enough. Why would the state allow for its own diminishment or removal?
> If they really didn't want immigrants they would of done something more
Like fucking what? Vote for the "anit-immigrant" part? Whoops they lied. Now what? March on no. 10 with guns and demand an election? Have fun with that one.
Your naïvete is stunning. If the people had any non-violent way to stop the state (who has all the army and all the guns and all the media and all the power) then there is not a thing any one can do to stop them. Any party that goes against the narrative will be infiltrated or simply outlawed. I didn't vote for National Action to be classed a terrorist organisation.
And what if the state decides to just takes the rights and not protect in return?
They glow in the dark, don't they?
I dont know about you guys but,
>i cant wait for this guy to be president
The whole government is a mafia at this point. Taxation is just a pretty word for protection money, which is extortion.
>Blame the media not the evil state
WHO OWNS THE FUCKING BBC? IT'S STATE OWNED AND STATE FUNDED AND YOU GO TO PRISON IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT IT
>Well start your own party then
I wouldn't stand a fucking chance. How do I get elected when no one knows I exist because I don't have media coverage?
>and the media will destroy you
EVEN YOU ADMIT IT
>Who owns the media?
The state. BBC is state owned.
>It's almost like the media is against white people
Yeah, the media owned BY THE STATE.
>Get 51% of people voting to leave the EU. Vote passes
That was a mistake. They didn't mean for it to happen. Don't worry, it wont go through; we're not leaving the EU.
Show me the contract where any of us agreed to be slaves without property rights, who can be punished for having the wrong thoughts, their houses intruded upon without cause and their labor taken without recompense.
Why do people complain about cops so much? They protect my stuff from the niggers. And from the white trash. And I have a ton of expensive stuff.
Besides. There are plenty of places you could go if you don't like cops that have essentially no cops at all.
Somalia needs YOU!!! Apply today.
>NO THEY FUCKING DIDN'T WHERE WAS THE HATE SPEECH REFERENDUM?
Because you can't have a referendum on everything shit would never get done, how about you get your mates and your misses to vote the gas the kikes party and if enough of you do that you can call pakis shitskins all you want. It's almost like the media shapes peoples opinions.
>Who owns the BBC?
Jews
>No, it would be ruled by the tiny percentage that voted. Even if one person in each constituency voted that's enough. Why would the state allow for its own diminishment or removal?
If 70% of people everywhere voted to get a libertarian government they are getting one because if they didn't people would rise up and the police would turn on the ebil statists as that's what their job is meant to do.
Also that's called a civil war it tends to happen in human society.
>Like fucking what? Vote for the "anit-immigrant" part? Whoops they lied. Now what? March on no. 10 with guns and demand an election? Have fun with that one.
Well don't vote for them or make your own, dumb cunt
>you
100% of parties everywhere are liars, the communist party would not enact communism and the libertarian party would not push for less government control because no reason.
Really now? youtube.com
lol it's unsigned you sign it by being part of the system lol
>British government supports terrorists in Syria and Libya
>said terrorists attack the UK
>British government removes internet privacy from Citizens
lel can't believe you guys havent demanded they stop supporting American, Israeli and Saudi jihad factories at Al Tanf border before agreeing to let them censure your internet North Korea style.
>They protect my stuff from the niggers
It's your fucking stuff; protect it yourself. If you trust the state to protect your property as if it was their own, don't be surprised when the state takes ownership of it.
>There are plenty of places you could go if you don't like cops that have essentially no cops at all.
You mean all of our countries not even a century ago?
reee taxation let me do drugs reeeee
as a member of the state I can happily tell you i love nothing more than the prospect of bashing the fucking skulls in of people who thinking they are owed anything by us.
Most of the turds who turn out to protest anything are the chronicly unemployable or the entitled middle class kid on daddys pay packet. I long for the day when we can put you out of commission. The state owes you who have put nothing into it nothing. You owe the state everything.
You guys are alright. Glad to see people here who still hold on to their senses and question authority.
ohoh so rich cant afford personal bodyguards or security
fuck yourslf in your mcmansion and fuck you you and cops probably suck each others dicks cause your all gay
"""""Natrual law"""""
"""""Justice"""""
>YOU AGREED TO THIS
>by being born
Yeah, no. Laws, fine. Societal norms, sure. Being a slave and not being allowed an opinion or property at the behest of communists? Hell no.
ONLY THE BIGGEST COMMUNISTS think that a camera is theres because theyre being filmmed
OHh yea yea this needs to be used for MY EVIDENCe, while I commit this crime so i can spin itin howeverway i want
Your forefathers would be ashamed to hear that. They would be disgusted.
>Because you can't have a referendum on everything shit would never get done,
Good! Every time they do something they fuck it up even worse.
>how about you get your mates and your misses to vote the gas the kikes party and if enough of you do that you can call pakis shitskins all you want.
Because prison.
>Jews
lol 1488 amirite
>Well don't vote for them or make your own, dumb cunt
I'd never get elected. I wouldn't stand a fucking chance.
Correct
If you are born into the United states by being a citizen you agree you to follow it's laws. If I didn't sign my birth certificate or some dumb thing I can't go and knife someone because lol laws don't apply to me I didn't agree to this
Your free to move away
you go to hell
and ill take everythign you have
You can FUCK OFFf
>he thinks positive law aka legislation is true law
Kek how I pity you
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>MUH BASED POLICE
they're morons and they're not on your side. watch the whole thing to comprehend the cuckoldry of the uk police.
youtube.com
>communists are anti-state
Really makes me think.
Fucking red-scare morons. "I need the state to protect me from the state".
BASED
>Good! Every time they do something they fuck it up even worse.
Alright here's the 8th referendum on specific thing no9 lets hope we or our allies don't get invaded we would have to hold a referendum first you can kiss the Falklands goodbye
>Because prison.
No you are free to start your own party and say you will remove racial laws. It's not my fault you can't get media backing and your too lazy to go around speaking at halls and putting up posters
>lol 1488 amirite
Yes goy the government controls the media, ignore everything else. Jews in the media is a big lie. Lugenpresse and fake news is a Nazi term
>I'd never get elected. I wouldn't stand a fucking chance.
Because the media and no ones likes Libertarians anywhere outside of America
This is the end point of a state police force. This is why parliament worked so hard to shoot down Peel with his police force, which is why our police are unarmed (lol what happened there, right?) and the people are armed (whoops!).
"""""True law"""""
>Implying morality is set in stone
>Implying everyone agrees on what is moral
dumb moortugese
more people got killed by the state in the 20th century than in every war combined.
>government is your friend
>police are based
the only reason we don't shit on the police that much around here is because they have enough problems with the blm faggots already, those niggers want to turn every dead thug into a martyr so defending police in that case is useful politically.
but in the end the're low-iq degenerates that unquestionably follow orders, and if they get an order to arrest you or kill you they WILL do it.
Protecting the borders of a nation and making it illegal to criticise immigration are not the same thing and you know it. Besides, the navy, air force, and marines are tied to the Queen, not the government.
>No you are free to start your own party and say you will remove racial laws.
Removal racial laws is hate speech. Enjoy prison.
>It's not my fault you can't get media backing and your too lazy to go around speaking at halls and putting up posters
You think I could afford all of that? All the time off work, all the printing costs, all the venue rental? You think any common person could afford that?
>Yes goy the government controls the media
So you think it's a coincidence that the media and the state agree on every single major policy and transgression of liberties?
>Because the media and no ones likes Libertarians anywhere outside of America
Our own societies 100 years ago would be considered "libertarian" by modern standards. You do know the history of England and Anglo law, don't you? You know that we didn't even have state police until Peel, right?
>but in the end the're low-iq degenerates that unquestionably follow orders
This. When David Irving was arrested in Austria the foot police were told by the secret service that he was a "violent car thief" and despite him being a man nearly 70 and having the rental documents for the car to hand they believed unquestionably what they were told by their superiors.
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Get off my ancestral lands, white man, we let the republic in under duress, only the republic may stay.
>Removal racial laws is hate speech. Enjoy prison.
Nope not if you do it like a civilized human, try keep screeching about niggers like national action to a minimum and your free to change it. Or just le lie like you said, just run for the communists then when you get voted in kick out all non whites.
>You think I could afford all of that? All the time off work, all the printing costs, all the venue rental? You think any common person could afford that?
It's almost like rich people in control of the media defacto control the state and that the state isn't some evil bogeyman just waiting to initiate communism it's in fact the dumb people.
>So you think it's a coincidence that the media and the state agree on every single major policy and transgression of liberties?
It's almost like the media is dominated by a certain peoples and they push for a mixed race communist world. Who owns the media again?
Does the state own the media or does the media own the state?
>Our own societies 100 years ago would be considered "libertarian" by modern standards. You do know the history of England and Anglo law, don't you? You know that we didn't even have state police until Peel, right?
And if you go back even further you had absolute monarchies
Get off my ancestral lands, you were settled under the grace of the King chosen from God to rule over his lands. Dumb terrorist
cops snould be using this as a bartering tactic to get more money
Our last king denied his crown and gave it to the whole of the republic. Cease and desist, emu-bait.
Getting to watch the police beat up liberals at protests is literally the only reason I pay my taxes.
>Nope not if you do it like a civilized human,
You can be as civilised as you like, your manner and tone is not the problem, your counter-narrative beliefs are.
>the media
Your obsession with this is astounding. If all media stopped tomorrow do you think the government will just snap out of a trance?
>Who owns the media again?
The BBC is owned by the state.
>Does the state own the media or does the media own the state?
Both.
>And if you go back even further you had absolute monarchies
England hasn't been an absolute monarchy since Magna Carter, and even before 1066 Saxon kings had to answer to the thegns - Alfred the Great was elected.
>lol having dissidents like tommon robinson be arrested and accosted by the state for criticising the government is worth seeing some youtube videos now and then
I really hope you don't vote.
you missed the part were cops are actually paid anything close to decent.
cops = ego tripping people who failed at life.
there is no conspiracy.
I used to wonder where the police came from in a police state. At least in the USA. When the government "shut down" a few years back it was not local cops telling you not to look at open air monuments or what not. It was state police. Those are the fuckers you want.
>You can be as civilised as you like, your manner and tone is not the problem, your counter-narrative beliefs are.
Wrong cunt. You are free to say on a political party page you will deport all non whites just don't scream nigger and if you get enough votes you can do that.
>Your obsession with this is astounding. If all media stopped tomorrow do you think the government will just snap out of a trance?
It's not the government snapping out of it's trance but the dumb voters. No Jew media/Banking = No jew government polices
>Both
Wrong. The politicians who make up the state suck off the media owners to get their own party in. The state is not a singular being it is compromised of millions of different people and hundreds of different political parties all fighting for media room. The media runs the government the government gives bonuses to the Media in return for extra media coverage
>England hasn't been an absolute monarchy since Magna Carter, and even before 1066 Saxon kings had to answer to the thegns - Alfred the Great was elected.
And? That just means any "our ancestors were Libertarians" is a shit point. I guess being a cannibal and living in caves is good too since our ancestors did it once as well
>the odd individual gets arrested
>scores of liberals get their shit kicked in
>lol
Hello newfag
I really hope you don't vote.