Sup Forums, redpill me on this guy?
Is he on of us or (((them)))?
I am finishing my half-year exchange in Russia. Wonder, what's gonna happen if I go to his rally on June 12 (can I be imprisoned if I am a foreign citizen?). And should I?
He seems like a better version of Putin: he opposes his corruption, but he is also against the (((West))) and he seems to be ready to continue his foreign policy.
Thoughts?
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>I am a foreign citizen
In other words, you have zero business getting involved into local politics.
But I do!
I can make (a difference) an independent country change it's foreign policy course. Isn't that what we all are trying to do?
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Come on, russkies
I know that you lurk on this board
What do you really think of him?
They aren't allowed to express their thoughts openly.
Russia is a lost cause. This retard was praising Nelson Mandela, wanted to make minimum wage 25000 rubles and other retarded shit. Both him and Putin should be gassed.
t. Russian that left forsaken russian shithole
Don't actually go, they'll use you as proof that he has foreign sponsors.
But they are.
Unless Russkies at my uni (Higher School of economics) are somehow really different from all the other russians, I don't think they are any shy in proclaiming their political beliefs.
natsoc is the cure
Of course they're different m8. Jesus fuck, you're clueless.
literally who
I didn't mean to say they are no different at all.
I meant to say that they should be different when it comes to being able to express ur ideas on Sup Forums.
It's not like they are all being watched by the FSB or something.
On one hand, changing the guy on the throne would be great. On the other, Analny is a protectionist faggot who wants to raise minimal wage up to the current national average and do some other equally retarded stuff. Meh.
>Propagandist with bait
> Higher School of economics
Literally Russian UC Berkeley.
У них хoтя бы диплoм нaпoлoвинy c LSE. Пycть и Бepкли, нo yнивep-тo хopoший.
You do know they just recently toppled their 'student ombudsman because he called some protestors on some rally 'faggots', do you?
Hy дa. Ho кoнтингeнт cтyдeнтoв — пиздeц ёбaный. Oднa Hихeльпихeль чeгo cтoит.
>Hихeльпихeль
Literally WHO?
this desu
Russian Zoe Quinn.
never heard of her
Can u link her? google produces zero result for me
youtube user/NixelPixel
vk.com *slash* nixelpixel_public
A feminist from HSE. Draws comics about farting and her periods. You can find her in vkontakte by typing "nixelpixel" in the search field.
cia plant
>youtube user/NixelPixel
Yeah, I already found her.
I can't see anything linking her to the HSE though
while i can appreciate the work he and his fund has done so far, i don't trust this fuck one bit. even if he's genuine and somehow gets to power kikes will subvert him like they did with trump
She's HSE graduate. HSE if I'm not mistaken doesn't have womyn studies department, but Humanities are already contaminated with SJW shit. I hope you are doing hard science there.
Yeah, he is one of you. A Yale graduate with ties to Khorkovsky and Soros who doesn't consider Crimea part of Russia.
I think he's running for publicity. No chance of winning. However, establishing local HQs is a very good strategy, props to him.
fpbp
Hope you get exposed
>I hope you are doing hard science there.
Not really.
I haven't met a single SJW here tho
But he does! Doesn't he?
As far as I understand he has some strong ties to russian nationalists/nazies. It would be hard to align with those people and try to reject the Crimean referenda at the same time, no?
it's not your country so fuck off and stay home. leave russian politics to the russians you mong.
who cares?
move country you fucking idiots
shouldn't*
>move country you fucking idiots
Literally WHAT?
>I haven't met a single SJW here tho
Lucky you. There is one professor on Philosophy department called Kirill Martynov, he's super SJW.
I don't know who he is, but he looks like every bad guy in the movies so yes.
He is (((our guy))) and he will be a president sooner or later, but there is no point in going to the event tomorrow.
Russia is a country of coupes and in-power conspiracies. Putin will be betrayed by his own men, like everyone before him. Then, this guy will be put in power.
soon we'll have a commie in charge so you'll love it here
plus you wont have to lick putins arse
Hello, rare flag.
>coupes
coups, I mean
Like Yeltsin; another USAID shill.
So you say he is going to be the president, but at the same time you'd advice me not to go to his rallies
Are u seriously trying to tell me that I shouldn't witness the history of a foreign country being made?
Americans would never elect somebody who got full scholarship from MSU and was taught together with people who then started revolutions in countries around the world.
Don't like the current regime, but i prefer some corruption and full sovereignty over globalist shill.
You are not the sharpest tool in the shed, I take it?
I am literally telling you that the history of Russia is never made in the street. Study history of Russia. No matter what will happen tomorrow (most likely nothing), this will in no way affect neither Putin nor (((Haвaльный))).
You just sit and wait as, when the time is right, Putin is sent off to Dacha by his own circle and this guy installed into power.
Literally, in the last 100 years, only Yeltzin voluntarily left the power. And only Nikolai II was somewhat dislodged by mass (armed) protests.
Everyone else was betrayed by their own. You sit and wait.
On a side note, you are in the wrong, if you assume that they will not jail a foreigner. They did and they will do if you are in the way.
Except Russia has no sovereignty at this moment. All its money and funds are piled in the EU and USA. It is completely dependent on the trade with the West.
He's better than zloi manlet. Go to the rally.
February revolution was mostly connected to influential rich people. October revolution was more "made in the street", though. And it resulted in Russia going FUBAR.
Are you retarded? You will be accused of espionage. Stay home.
>February revolution was mostly connected to influential rich people.
Not so much so. The street movement was armed, and the factories strike movement was very powerful. He didn't have a choice really.
> "made in the street"
Yes, but the street was armed to the teeth. This is very different from the current situation, where people have no influence on those on power whatsoever. Nothing will happen tomorrow except a couple of hundred of arrests.
I don't say the history will be made on the streets of Moscow.
What I do say, is that tommorow's rally might be the one that will get him into the international spotligh, which, in turn, will be the one that just might get into the history books.
And I do want to be able to tell my children how I participated in that rally back in 2017
On a side note, I just got a tip from one of my classmates to switch youtube's region to Russia and visit Youtube's trending page. It's literally full of stuff that is about tomorrow's rally
Just look at this shit, trending at the second place on youtube: youtube.com
I literally had no idea whether it will b a pro-putin or pro-navalny vid, untill the last seconds of this vid when they showed that phrase about being able to change something.
Isn't that something?
> This is very different from the current situation, where people have no influence on those on power whatsoever.
Well, Euromaidan wasn't armed to the teeth either. However, it succeeded because the """legitimate president""" did not stomp them while it was just a small protest. It's kind of hard to suppress a whole square of angry people. Putin, on the other hand, would not wait until an angry mob would start ramming Kremlin gates.
Navalny also has some nasty welfare policies in plan like raising minimal wage up to 25k roubles or subsidizing mortgages. But yeah, he's still better.
>international spotligh
He is already in the international spotlight. His every move is covered by (at least) European media to the detail not even remotely close to how he is covered in Russia.
>And I do want to be able to tell my children how I participated in that rally back in 2017
All the important stuff already happened in 2011, which started the process of Putin slowly turning against the rest of the world, becoming more paranoid and scrupulous. Which, in turn, alienated most of the oligarchs against him. Which, in turn, when push comes to shove, will remove him from the position of power.
Also, you don't take Russian character into account. It is summer. Most of the people that won't be working, will be on their dachas out of the cities. Hence, my prognosis about nothing happening.
>However, it succeeded because the """legitimate president""" did not stomp them while it was just a small protest.
Yes, and that is the only reason why it succeeded. Had Yanukovich have the balls to crush the protest, he very easily could have. May I assure you that Putin does have the balls to do that.
How did you get into HSE, planning on going there in 3years or so
> that won't be working
Well, that's a holiday after all. And it comes right after Sunday this year.
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> will be on their dachas out of the cities
There, or in Turkey/Egypt.
> May I assure you that Putin does have the balls to do that.
Seen it countless times.
I got thru my university programme, but you might get better luck studying this page:
>that's a holiday
No revolution tomorrow, then, I guess. Most people were hanging in their summer houses when the Soviet Union collapsed. Sure they will do the same as the youth left for summer in the city parades into police wagons tomorrow.
(This won't save Putin in power in the long run, though)
He wants to legalize le weed, but i think that he is probably funded by someone from the west.
Thx
25k roubles is what like 100€? why is that a bad thing?
>inb4 i need to prove my cred as an ultra-capitalist and oppose any sensible socially democratic policy that has been known to produce comfy countries
Don't be like Germany
Don't swing between 2 retarded extremes
>hurr durr if you trade you have no sovereignty
>t. retard
>sensible socially democratic policy
oxymoron
When you are locked into having to trade ever increasing amount of supply to a small set of customers for an ever decreasing price, I would say yes, you have no sovereignty.
I heard about it.
The only problem is that, as far as I understand, his previous rally in the late march (the famous one) wasn't exactly full of dacha-visiting people in their 50-s.
It was mainly populated by youngsters (schoolkids, students and the like). And I don't think these people go to dachas.
Besides, unlike 1991, now we have the internet. And judging ONLY by youtube's trending channel (there are actual Russian rappers rapping about changing Russia's politics, and they are on youtube's trending page) and by russian imageboard 2ch's Sup Forums's first page I do seem to think that this rally is quote trending among the crowd
Oкaтыши, нaхyй c Sup Forums.
Здecь любят и чтят Пyтинa, бeлoгaндoнныe хyecocы.
Russian median income is about 30k roubles/month. Even lesser outside Moscow, SPb and other large cities. Raising the bar to almost this sum would devastate both small businesses and low income people. Former would bankrupt and later would be fired. Yay, sensible socially democratic policy. The said comfy countries you are speaking about(Nordic countries, I suppose) were rather successful PRIOR to installing social democracy as their main political force. And they are in economic decline nowadays.
It was collapsed mostly due to the military being on Yeltsin's side. Can't argue with tanks.
It's like 300 and it's bad because all the old reasons why high minimum wage is bad.
Less jobs, harder to find one for the inexperienced, etc, etc.
+15, тoвapищ мaйop.
Bceх митингyющих либepacтoв зaвтpa oтпиздит OMOH.
+10000€
>now we have the internet.
No you don't. VK (Russia's main source of information) is completely control by the police.
>trending among the crowd
Means nothing unless the crowd has guns and balls to make a coup. Schoolkids, as you have correctly identified the target group of these protests, has neither.
The only possible positive reason to go to these, which I can think of, is that if the oligarchs, the secret service, the army, the Pocгвapдия decide to overthrow Putin, they can use the violent attacks against the protesting youngsters as an excuse.
But do you really want to put your body on the altar of Russian power games?
Чтo, и мeня oтпиздит?
Would love to get beaten by the omonovtsy.
That's a story I'd be telling my children
And i would say you're a retard since it has nothing to do with political sovereignty. We wouldn't take Crimea, we wouldn't finance nationalist in EU, we wouldn't save Assad and we sure as hell wouldn't hack DMC if we weren't sovereign. Name one other country on earth that spits into globalists half as much as we do and then you will maybe have a starting point in your moronic argument.
A ты выйди c ЛГБT флaгoм или зa чтo ты тaм тoпишь и тeбя нe тoлькo OMOH oтпиздит, гoвнo.
> oтпиздит
Глaвнaя pyccкaя цeннocть пoмимo хyёв и aнycoв.
Этo зaбaвнo, тaк кaк нa гeй-пapaдaх OMOH зaщищaeт пapaдиpyющих oт гoпoты.
Yeah, fuck you too.
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Former state department employee here. Listen to this guy.
The soviets also thought that they had sovereignty. But no tanks or nukes mattered when the state ran out of money. Let's wait 10-20 years and see what happens to Crimea, Assad, and all the other nonsense you consider tokens of sovereignty.
Tы кyкoлд.
>muh soviets
>lets wait 100 years and see
Not an argument. You're a retard.
>soros-funded shill
literally what
>being this cucked by Putin
>this defensive
Whatever makes you sleep at night.
I didn't mention Putin once, you shill. But you obviously run out of talking points.
I hope they kick your teeth in for fucking with their politics.
How did you manage to do that?
Kickbacks, get the fuck out from Sup Forums.
Putin is loved and praised in here, white-condom dick suckers.
Literally one of (((them))) sent to incite revolution in Russia since thats the only way he could get to power. Then he will lose power in a matter of moths leaving the country in turmoil.
I am the most hyped guy in here, but I don't understand how u imagine him inciting a revolution.
Do u actually imagine him leading schoolkids to storm the Kremlin?
Ждy зaвтpa шoy, пидopaхи paзвлeкaйтe мeня.
хpюкни
Pidorashkas, speak english there.
>Do u actually imagine him leading schoolkids to storm the Kremlin?
Thats pretty much the plan
That's a stupid line of thinking. EU needs us as much as we need them. Russia has been a reliable partner, especially when it comes to gas. Nobody is capable of substituting Russia in the energy market at the moment.
Besides, all that oligarch money is entangled into countless legit Western enterprises, no way you could freeze them without damaging those.
мeйк ми ю кaкcaкepъ
US produces more gas than Russia. Iran also has a comparable amount.
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GLORY TO NAVALNY!!!