Pol is finally stumped this time

>"How come if women are so completely ahead of men in every respect when it comes to education, that it doesn't seem to be paying off for them, at least in the material sense of pay and careers?" Schuller tells Sunday Life.

>Australia is part of a trend across highly developed countries where women outperform men educationally. In 2015, 90 per cent of Australian women aged 20-24 had completed year 12, compared with 83 per cent of men. In the same year, girls in NSW were top of the class in 70 per cent of HSC subjects. Women are also more likely than men these days to earn diplomas, degrees and post-graduate qualifications.

>Yet men earn an average $27,000 a year more across all industries and occupations, according to 2016 research from the Workplace Gender Equality Agency. And at the top end of town, five out of six CEOs are men. The University of Sydney's Professor Marian Baird, one of Australia's leading researchers into women and work, says it has been known for years that "most women" are working below their skill level. "They top education, but once they hit the labour market women are not getting a return on their investment," she says.
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Women don't work as hard

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More like schools and universities are catered towards women and run by women.

Men are more likely to choose STEM.

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Fuck off Failure

Because women get pregnant and get periods which makes them earn less at work because they need leaves of absences and generally makes them less valuable and dependable as employees.

Men work longer hours than women.

>why doesnt my women's studies degree with an emphasis on child learning disabilities pay as much money as the oil rig worker who risks his life just getting to his job? I'VE DONE MORE SCHOOLING, ISN'T SCHOOLING THE MOST IMPORTANT THING???

nupe.

This.

a) They tend to take lower-paying jobs.
b) Pregnancy and child rearing.
c) Men negotiate harder and ask for raises more often.
d) Time delay (the CEOs of today graduated 20-30 years ago, not yesterday)
e) Probably plenty of other assorted rubbish SJWs love to conveniently ignore, but are mostly personal choice and not muh patriarchy.

Wake me up if there's still a disparity after you've adjusted for profession, wage, negotiating ability, and experience.

Could it be that the education system is shit?

A>B
test this by going through process C
If C no longer tests for quality then using C to test if A>B will never work and will show the opposite results.

Basically you are fucking dumb and watch this before you call yourself redpilled:

youtube.com/watch?v=uj8f7ycnUtU

it's almost like education is a bad predictor of real ability

It's because women pick stupid degrees

Woman spends 4 years earning a degree. ends up working in a job that does not require a degree.

Man spends 4 years working a job that does not require a degree, earns a promotion before woman even leaves school.

1. Women/black studies is not a proper education.
2. Women work less hours, and choose work with better home/work balance
3. It's hard for them psychologically to negotiate for higher pay

I bet you losers still blame your parents for your virginity

f) They make the same HOURLY wages.

I agree with this farker. Done in one.

THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID I CAN'T EVEN
BUT I WILL ANYWAY
If your disingenuous faggots looked at women from like 20-30 with college degrees, they'd see women earning more. If you just average ALL women and ALL men, yeah, men work more hours, less part time, don't leave to get pregnant, and work in more dangerous jobs. NO FUCKING SHIT THEY EARN MORE
Fuck women. They literally won't be satisfied until men are livestock.

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> women are paid less than men
> somehow women aren't 90% of the labour force since any CEO would kill their own mother for a work force that requires 23% less money
Really makes you think about "wage gap".

Because when the women actually starts working at these jobs they go HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO MUCH WORK FUCK THIS SHIT, and downgrade themselves to a less paying but comfortable job.

Men on the other hand goes CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.

Simple, the more colleges run by women the less ready people are for the work force.

Courses have changed dramatically and have become increasingly simple unless you go into STEM. Going to college means less than it ever has for both sexes, but feminists think they aren't making 6 figures because muh oppression.

You think you made a biting commentary. In reality, you just responded to totally cogent arguments with retarded monkey sounds. Enrichment! Yes!

>so completely ahead of men
Having a certificate doesn't mean being educated

>hurr why are the women that are outperforming men right now not outearning men that have been CEOs for the past 50 years
maybe because it will take a few decades for these super educated women to get enough seniority and experience to reach the top managerial levels you stupid fucking cunt

Comparing men and women of the same age groups (under 40) women are already out-earning men in most of the western world.

Because the cultural Marxism and post modernism infected education system rewards non-questioning conformity and agreeableness, rather than pursuit of the truth. Women are more agreeable on average and so tend to do better in the system. However this system does not prepare you for the real world and thus women are potentially less adapted to the workplace. Furthermore, women simply chose to work less, they are less masochistically competitive than men.

You're right but the article describes women 30-50 who are meant to be senior management.

Also having your period at work shouldn't be a factor given women are beating men at school and university.

Though they ignore that men drop out more often, and don't consider whether that's relevant to how men do worse at school. It's actually completely relevant. Teenage boys are suffering. Teenage girls suffer too, but not at the levels of boys.

>58%

> health professions
> US
> relatively low IQ
That sounds kind of bullshit. As far as I know, being a doctor in the USA is very prestigious. Only Jews and Asians give more shit about medical career. Therefore, selection requirements should be rather strict.

Or does it include lower-tier medical specialists?

The answer to whatever question it was: They're women, they do stupid shit all the time

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>>Australia is part of a trend across highly developed countries where women outperform men educationally. In 2015, 90 per cent of Australian women aged 20-24 had completed year 12, compared with 83 per cent of men. In the same year, girls in NSW were top of the class in 70 per cent of HSC subjects. Women are also more likely than men these days to earn diplomas, degrees and post-graduate qualifications.
>>Yet men earn an average $27,000 a year more across all industries and occupations, according to 2016 research from the Workplace Gender Equality Agency.

They probably aren't controlling for age.

Women are always on the lookout for something to bitch about. If they can't find something, they'll make stuff up to bitch about. You can't take them too seriously.

>You're right but the article describes women 30-50 who are meant to be senior management.
Yea. Those are fewer than the men of the same age groups with a culture that encouraged other career paths than late gen x, millennials and gen Z.

No where, in the OP or the article, does it say that.
Stick to reality, faggot. We're not discussing what you think you read.

>>"How come if women are so completely ahead of men in every respect when it comes to education, that it doesn't seem to be paying off for them, at least in the material sense of pay and careers?" Schuller tells Sunday Life.
Maybe they're educated in the wrong areas. Or maybe being educated does not translate well to being useful and valuable.

I think medicine and health professions are two different things. Any kind of health related jobs are health professions and they vastly outnumber doctors.

110 is not that low.
Anyway, it makes sense when you factor in affirmative action.

Im a teacher at a private school.

>girls are mollycoddled nonstop
>"C-can I get an extention?" "Sure darling."
>Boys are treated with more stricter rules
>Education itself has shifted to less competition and more memorizing, less creative thought
>Boys are easily bored due to said shift in education
>Boys are treated as boys by the male teachers
>Girls are encouraged non-stop by female teachers, are protected, are given more exceptions

In highschool young men are treated with very very strict behaviour rules when it comes to sexuality.

Young women can openly flirt with teachers to get better grades.

Now lastly, in university, when I was about to miss a deadline I had to work until it was done, or fail.

I saw PLENTY of girls leave professor offices behind closed doors and get magical extensions, not to mention that teacher-student relationships were fucking standard.

Young men also prefer trades, because universities have become shit.

>HA WERE SMARTER THAN BOYS
>WHY DONT MORE COMPANIES HIRE WOMEN??????

Boys struggle to ask for help.
Girls struggle to ask for a raise.

I genuinely think this is the answer. In all my time I've seen stupid women at school and uni get better or equal grades to me.

But when the test is marked blind, no names, no student ID, no teacher who knows you/your student ID I outperform the girls easily.

And high school was a joke. I literally dropped out and never finished school it was so bad for me. But now I'm the top of my law school after taking a detour into university.

>I saw PLENTY of girls leave professor offices behind closed doors and get magical extensions, not to mention that teacher-student relationships were fucking standard.
I used to to clean at a danish university. I once walked in on a female student giving a professor a blowjob in his office. Public education really is the worst.

The measurement of success of women and men in Uni is simply a measure of success at the degrees taken, and doesn't account for the difficulty of the degree or the kind of intellectual demands that degree has on the student.

This graph demonstrates that perfectly.

Women tend to do things like gender studies, women's studies, psychology, sociology. Men tend to do everything STEM which is significantly harder but pays more money.

When women finally do enter the work place, even in like for like jobs, let's say doctors where the split is actually quite even. What you find is that men work longer hours, they're more acceptable to doing unsociable hours, they're more likely to work in dangerous or extreme conditions which compensate workers with more pay.

Jordan Peterson on women in the work place and the inequality. youtube.com/watch?v=eieVE-xFXuo

Being more levels deep in the indoctrination station doesn't correlate to more skills. If anything its inverse. A master's in black dick doesn't lend itself well to underwater welding.

Libcucks think universities are job training centers
Fucking retards. No wonder they're in debt

It's almost as if a piece of paper doesn't equal actual skill. It's almost as if women are incompetent when it comes to putting things they've learned into practice rather than just reciting things they've been told.

You want a job done, call a man. You want a parrot, call a woman

The education system is hugely slanted in favour of women. I took English language in college expecting to learn about my language with more depth but spent more time looking at videos of babies and being trained to shill products.

A good 80% of it was a dreadful waste of my time. I only really stuck it out because I was cosying up with one of the girls in there and I got a bit of pleasure by annoying the fat feminist 'teaching by my mere presence.

Miss those days.

Just because women are more "educated" doesn't mean they work as hard and as many hours as men. In my experience women do not tend to want to work overtime where men will.

Try again.

this
also when women get to the level of work where they are making 500k/yr they didn't realize this requires 80+ hours of work (ceo &other executive positions) per week. and most women don't work that hard. simple as that maybe if more women took jobs on oil rigs up in the arctic circle in -40 below it would toughen them up a bit but i don't see this happening.

>Workplace Gender Equality Agency
>The Workplace Gender Equality Agency is an Australian Government statutory agency created by the Workplace Gender Equality Act 2012.

What in fucks name.

Classic apex fallacy.

>WE NEED MORE WOMEN CEOS!!!!
>W-what? I cant have a martini everynight with my galpals gossiping about Chad?

>You want a job done, call a man. You want a parrot, call a woman

Wow, that sentence is devastating.

Strong wimin taking over ((academia))

Don't know a single woman at uni who hasn't abused extensions. If they don't get it outright, oops, suddenly that handy mental illness that all modern women are medicated for is acting up so they require compassionate consideration. Not only that, but every single fucking one of them flaunts it afterwards "Lol, just got an extension for something that was due 3 days ago and I still haven't started, let's party!". Completely worthless, every single fucking one of them. I haven't even found an exception to prove the rule

It's obvious you're a woman.

Intelligence != education.

>ywn take taxpayer funds to do some meme and call it work

Such a rort

>I haven't even found an exception to prove the rule
Once you realise that you never will. Wisdom level achieved.

Mutations are a thing. There's infinite possibility, though minuscule plausibility.

Universities are brainwashing centres
Even brainwashed women are useless to corporations these days
Women are inherently less valuable than men they have 17% less neurons and 40% less neuronal connections

because school is no longer about education but is infact about social culture

intelligent men get out of that system and find a place where their skills can grant them opportunities, and through devotion and experience add value to themselves

women embrace these social structures and network, concentrating on irrelevancies and virtue signaling their way to degrees. as soon as they enter the workforce, a majority are proven to be less skilled than alternatives, and their business decisions are based on emotion and social acceptance rather than logic and an understanding of their role in business.

its because women are co-opted by globalism easier than men. if they spent as much time becoming great as they did telling people how great they are, they would be capable of being equal.

you're both right /thread

>excelling in something that has been hemorrhaging value for the last decade and is a bad/very risky financial decision for most people regardless of whether you're male or female

hmmmmmm

99% great post.

Except for

>its because women are co-opted by globalism easier than men.

Thats not how the world works. It has nothing to do with some global sinister plan of domination, but has 100% to do with women clawing their way into positions of power and subconsciously/consciously favoring women, due to instinctive ways females band together socially.

Otherwise great post.

>if they spent as much time becoming great as they did telling people how great they are, they would be capable of being equal.

Well put.

I have never seen a woman tradie.

>Women don't work as hard
Or only work in lower paying fields. The wage gape is a fucking lie it has been proven as such or and over again.

it's because they're submissive and more willing to do the work. then they get in the real world and have to deal with mean white men

Yes mutations are a thing, they are called hermaphrodites or genetic freaks. It is impossible for a fertile female to have the same brain as a fertile man. It can't be done. In the womb we all start of as females. Then a rush of testosterone kicks in to make a man. Changing the body and the genitals of the fetus, however. That much testosterone, or any other hormone, that "deforms" the body in such a way must! by logical deduction, also change the brain. Fertile men and fertile women have different brains, there is no way around it. Pic related. And pic related here.And essay related.archive.is/dBehg
Indeed, all 3,5 billion fertile women are like that.

>Thats not how the world works. It has nothing to do with some global sinister plan of domination, but has 100% to do with women clawing their way into positions of power and subconsciously/consciously favoring women, due to instinctive ways females band together socially.

That's another interesting point. Women might have great potential, but among other women they all seem to revert to the mean. There's lots of data showing women are risk averse in all walks of life compared to men. A man therefore will be willing to take a risk in business, most fail (they ignore the failures though, they only notice the success stories; selection bias, survivor bias) but some become very successful. Their success often, not always, but often, is a consequence of their risk taking behaviour. A behaviour women have less of.

>tfw 130 IQ math major

>Thinks this insults me
Your migrant father's IQ must be exceptionally low

>Women still have pussies, and they will fall back on this when all else fails.

At least you know your purpose.

>That's another interesting point. Women might have great potential,
No.

Roleplaying somewhere else faggot. Pol is for discovering truth.

college is adult daycare

It's absolutely this. Schools cater to women not just on a course level, but on a temperamental level. All schools are girls schools.

>ahead on education
So Most ambitious rats in a maze.

BEST POST IN THREAD

Ohhh, I remember you. You're the one who wanted women to contact you so you could fight them to the death

Having a degree in gender studies and in debt doesn't count as educated. That's called being retarded

Idiot. Then try and discover it you fucking idiot. I'm explaining basic reality to you.

Wut?
You say women have great potential. I can prove with simpe experiments that no, they actually don't. Are you a woman?

Social science women's studies Psychology Humanity Finance and commerce and arts don't count.

>Women are also more likely than men these days to earn diplomas, degrees and post-graduate qualifications.
Quantity=/=Quality.

You want an interesting story?

Here it goes.

I currently work as a tech crew in certain factory. Honest, bluecollar job. The higher ups are looking for a competent welder for 2 months now.

Meanwhile there are many people who either work for minimum wage or are unemployed, with diplomas and stuff. But can they weld? No. What can they do? Well they've made an online survey and analysed it once or twice. The merit of their work(also known as "does it work?" was never checked because all the people supposed to exam them were concerned with was whether it was written in proper academic style rather than in merit of their work.

They have masters, sure, but that welder we're looking for for two months now will earn more than them. And he may as well be 18 and straight from trade school. They wasted at least 5 years at uni. Who's stupid now?

sorry that was another aussie.

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Ever heard of mining? Being an Aussie I thought you'd know that a lot of working class men end up in the mines earning ridiculous money, vastly outnumbering women.

>How come if women are so completely ahead of men in every respect when it comes to education

Because men don't receive money or grants for education.

My high school gf became a tradie out of high school. Refrigeration. Four years later her hands became callused claws, her face was all red and had wrinkle lines, her body was very muscular and kinda chubby.
At just 22 a woman can be "one of the guys" but she'll look like them too.

Medicine requires memory or cheating. In fact when you look at average IQ of medicine students and the amount of SAT or equivalent test points they have to get to be accepted in various universities grew over time, yet the IQ dropped. With physics' it's the same as it was 100 years ago, meanwhile average medicine students in Ivy League or any other top-tier university was much more intelligent 100 years ago and yet he would never be accepted to those universities 20 or 40 years later. The reason is simple, universities started moving their criteria up to the point where on average on every actual genius that gets in there are 3 cheaters, and that's even not counting affirmative action.

i have. It's the funniest thing to watch, im a house painter by trade and we had a female apprentice quit 1 hour in because it was to hard. we were sanding the outside of a house and we gave her the easy job of hand sanding and not using a belt sander, the other time we were painting in a high rise with another female apprentice and at the end of the day things seemed to be going well, come the next day she didn't rock up to work or for the next three days than we call up the apprentice company and shes not coming back and said my boss sexual harassed her, which is hilarious cause i was with him the whole time and it didn't happen she made it all up.

>women do not demonstrate superior skills
>but they do well in the Jewish miseducation system
Hmm.

To be fair, how else can you make money with an English degree rather than advertising?

mining boom was construction of mines not the actually mining jobs which are alot harder to get also global downturn means lower production and the falling value of mining resources specifically iron ore

Vacations. Broads get paid and immediately start fucking off.

can confirm

DE- DELET TIS!!!!!111111

Stupid degrees like social work or some bullshit. Also men get shit done. I'm studying in the economical sector and it's quite hilarious. Most girls have really good grades, but every time they ask me some shit, I realize that they only copy and paste the shit that the professor told them.

Most of them can't think outside the box. I'm sure that this is also the reason why they believe in this whole cultural marxism bullshit.

>90% female jobs
Nursery nurse
Primary school teacher
Clerical assistant
>90% male jobs
Oil rig worker
Boilermaker
Heavy vehicle mechanic

Hmmmmmmmmmm really made me think

>health professions
nurses, ivan