Puerto Reicho is probably going to be the 51st state of the USA

Thoughts and opinions about this? Also here is a strawpoll.

strawpoll.me/13166722

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No. Give them independence and never speak about this again.

it's kind of cool. no opinion otherwise.

Will they expand congress or just change apportionment?

Like this wasn't planned.

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He's lurking.

I hope it prompts a movement to return to the thirteen stars, 51 stars on a flag.....

I like that idea. Make them their own country and not our problem. We'd still probably have to give them security support like naval but they'd just be another one of our many global bases

This. Fuck those broke, complaining spics.

PR statehood would be the death knell of America

Two new senators

no new congressmen because the House has been a bitch about adding new members for 100 years.

They've done this referendum like 10 times. Nothing with change

how many electoral votes do they get?

They get however many representatives they get plus 2. The problem is that we haven't had any new seats in the House added for like more than 100 years. It's possible that some will be taken from other states like what happened when we added Alaska and Hawaii. The states that those representatives will come from though will be a hotly debated topic if Peurto Rico was given statehood. That's probably the biggest thing that is preventing the senate from ratifying the referendum

I welcome this. Once we have broken the "fifty, nifty" mold, it won't be long before we annex Mexico by force. All the cartels put to the gun, and the lands cut into six diverse Territories under Martial Governance until we have swept that corrupt cesspit clean. Imagine it, every Mexican Governor/Druglord (same thing) with their head on a pike.

When I was young and dumb I thought invading Iraq would make them civilized and a state too.

Democracies don't often war other democracies. Even if the other democracy is corrupt to shit. It would take some kind of major event like another 9/11 to get the public willing to war another country again.

Fuck. Puerto. Rico.

We shouldn't even have to be bothered with that worthless island.

I hope congress ignores the vote, like they have been doing.

INDEPENDENCE NOW!

I'd much rather annex Canada by force. In fact, I wouldn't mind if we controlled the whole continent if the federal government didn't have as much power as it does now.

I never thought that. Iraq was a cluster guck when we went in, it's a clusterfuck now. I don't want to democratize that shithole. I want to cauterize a gaping wound.

Well it looks like Sup Forums is mostly leaning towards gassing the peurto ricans. Idc really what happens. As long as it doesn't affect the economy in a negative way that's why I think we should just be rid of them and give them independence. Less people on our welfare system

Yay, more people voting socialist

>giving the same politicians that bankrupted the island a vote in congress

WEW

We should have made Taiwan the 51st State to be honest.

Under the surrender terms, Japan gave up Taiwan to America.

Chiang Kai Shek was still on the mainland and he had no idea he would one day flee to Taiwan after Mao seized power.

Even America thought Chiang Kai Shek staying in Taiwan was just going to be a temporary thing.

And look what happened. We gave away a free island to Chiang Kai Shek in the end.

Talk about a waste.

this, sorry but fuck yall.
id rather give you independence.

Cuba has 3x more arable land. If anything you shoulda made them state 51.

how fucked is the situation, no BS-assessment Juan

I aint changing my god damn flag.

if we let them go they will just end up as a shithole like the rest of the nigger run countries in the caribbean.

PR becoming a state is the Democrats' last hope.

>Pax Americana
"Fuck you, I like my fifty starred flag!"
Eat shit! We must expand or die. Stagnation and turning inward has doomed many a mighty nation before us.

This, start annexing Canada and the Caribbean and force them to use English.

>Illinois (niggerland) now junk bond status

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-07/illinois-bondholders-stand-pat-as-state-veers-toward-cut-to-junk

>jews buying up PR junk bonds despite them being completely bankrupt

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-07/puerto-rico-bond-traders-still-find-buyers-despite-epic-collapse

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-02/-i-had-to-choose-for-my-family-thousands-fleeing-puerto-rico

If this happens I won't be voting for Trump again.
What was even the point then?

Fucking stupid as shit.
Fuck these island dwelling niggers.
Fucking leeches looking for a host.

>Pay our debt, NOW!

>Puerto Reicho is probably going to be the 51st state
You're a little misinformed kid

What do they have to contribute?
If the answer is nothing, they are denied.
>The answer is nothing.

So America becoming a permanent commie cuck land is a good thing? How?

Remember, that means no more white people, no more borders, no more republican party, just HRC tier presidents forever, since the dems would gain a supermajority.

Even worse is no actual U.S citizen has a say in this.
Apparently niggers and can just cast a vote, and join our cuck nation any time no strings attached.

Ah, you dropped a slip of paper in the box? Good job ape. Here is FREE MONEY! yaaaaaaaaaay.

Taiwan has more strategic value.

90 minutes by plane from Taiwan to Japan.

Easy to watch over Korea and China as well.

Also, had America kept Taiwan, the Okinawans wouldn't be so pissed over American bases because in such a scenario, we would just have bases on Taiwan, instead, rather than Japan.

Fifty Nifty United States from thirteen original colonies,
Fifty Nifty stars in the flag that billows so beautifully in the breeze.
Each individual state contributes a quality that is great!
Each individual state deserves a bow: Let's salute them now!

What do we do about this song?

>"T-Trump is deporting hundreds of Spics! Go Trump!"
>LITERALLY IS GOING TO ADD 3.5 (THREE POINT FIVE) MILLION MORE SPICS AND SHITSKINS TO THE US


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHAH

Manifest Destiny demands Canada.

However, if we make the N in North America, silent, we could have USNA someday.

The entire North American continent.

Yeah but someone just can't take a hint already

I'd prefer NASA or the North American States of America.

delet dis

How many representitives would they get? And please tell me they'd vote conservative.

Isn't Puerto Rico chinks?

I like Puerto Rico
It's an American Territory and it has been a good island for us

That said, letting Puerto Rico into the US would be like letting Greece into the EU

and we all know how well that went

You guys are aware that Puerto Rican people are already United States citizens even if they're born on the island, right? Who is he "adding"? They're already technically here you idiots. All they have to do is switch residency to vote.

You are only looking at the immediate probability. "Adding Puerto Rico means two more Dem Senators! They will vote for Hillary!" Think of the effect on the mainland. It will be galvanizing. A Fire of patriotism and Expansionist desire can be fanned across the land. Rep .vs Dem is a boring game. I would like to play something else. Diverse holdings outside the established spheres may also serve to crack the power of Washington and return power to the States. Parties may form from regional interests. It could lead to exciting times.

Whats your point?

get rid of california

Would Puerto Rico be red or blue?

>How many representitives would they get?
Puerto Rico has about 3.5 million people so there would some representitives however it would not have changed the Trump election in any means (Trump would still have won if Puerto Rico could have voted blue).

And Puerto Rico is blue voting wise.

no it wont since Americans dont want it or its debt or its spics

They get a lot of things as a state. They get more of a say and more power in the American government. People will have to bother to give a fuck about them if they become a state

They are mostly conservative with the exception of some liberals.

Overall PR should get independence that way they'll be free from all the taxes they send to the US.

>dont want it or its debt
America is already in debt.
>its spics
Our spics are already here in fact most Puerto Ricans live in the USA/

>when you're an such an relevant colony that you're referendum doesn't even make news in the country that owns you

I bet America doesn't want their tax money either.

Most probable scenario - Dems gain 2 Senate seats, but don't make any gains in House (PR will get 5 reps, but they have to come from existing states, most of the states likely to lose will be Dem strongholds or places where Repubs can gerrymander a Dem out). Dems will also lose 3-4 electoral votes in states like Cali and Minnesota.

Also we'll still be spending about $7 billion a year on benefits for PR (which we already do), but PR residents will now be required to pay income tax (will add about a million new income tax payers).

Net win.

I really want this to happen. PRs are arrogant as fuck, more than burgers. Let's see how great PR is when it's not draining US finances

GOP controls Congress and will not allow a safe blue state to come into the picture.

They're a socialist shithole, stop fucking lying.

The only reason they want in now is because they're broke, and want us to bail them out.

blue because poor catholics.

Why would it do any of that? Puerto Rico is a debt ridden shithole willing to do anything it can to find someone else to pay it bills. All this will do is make a state literally under the control of the federal government with no interest in local politics beyond paying for their stupid decisions.

I mean they already pay taxes so....

That's a tough question. It depends on who is going to give up their representatives because the US has been stuck with 435 since 1912 and when Alaska and Hawaii were admitted some states had to give up one or more representatives. The biggest problem is that Alaska and Hawaii had small populations. Puerto Rico has 3.5 million which is significantly larger than almost a third of the other states. So it wouldn't be unreasonable to say they would get upwards of 5-7

Blue, but all their Reps will probably end up coming from other blue states (House is capped at 435)

Are they? The socialists have only recently surfaced plus US were the ones who got them in their debt anyway.

They should be independent and save the taxes they send to America and be able to export to other countries and import without US taxing them.

Not income tax, though. One of the big benefits of being a commonwealth. There's close to a million people working in PR who don't pay federal income tax.

They're already part of the U.S. dipshit. They can come and go as they please.

Move Mexico to the back of the line. After PR we need American Samoa, Guam, random other islands. Then Canada, Cuba and Phillipines. Then Mexico and the rest of the Americas plus Liberia due to it being founded by African-Americans.

Ah I see, most people I know pay federal taxes. So if they become a state it would be a win win for both parties.

They will still have to buy stuff via the US right?

it seems like a bad deal for us. those people are in no way culturally american and should be their own country.

The only reason this is being pushed is to make America even less white by adding all those spics to our population.

aren't there any white conservative places that can be added alongside? maybe poland?

Why not just hold a fucking nationwide referendum
There's no way drumpf will allow this bannon will push back instantly

are you fucking stupid?

I mean US already got all the money and the things they wanted from PR at literally no price so might as well give them independence.

Trips checked

Kek wills it

Poland 52nd state confirmed!

>Most of mexico wants statehood
If that was true i'd say we should take them up on that. It would end the immigration issue more or less and it would allow us to take military action against the cartels and flush them out of north America.

If we add PR it's going to make the 2020 census more interesting than it's already going to be

canada has some white people and they are also really weak and easy to conquer

We own Taiwan, we just give them no representatives so they can go kill themselves

Dominican bitches are better
>peep the captcha

You'd be adding millions of low skill and low paid nonenglish speakers to the US. The welfare would be the least of our issues. Enforcing the regulations and standards of infrastructure would cost hundreds of billions

yes you fucking subhuman faggot spic we should invite a bunch of shitskins who will turn america into brazil 2.0, communist, corrupt, and forever liberal.

kys you fucking brown turd. if they can't fucking manage their own country then they shouldn't be allowed to come here.

Cut the democrat niggers loose to become Cuba 2.0

Then what was the point in invading PR way back in 1898?

Actually congress has to approve it, all Puerto Rico gets to do is to vote on wether they submit the request.

>They should be independent
I'd like that too, since right now they wouldn't really offer us much other than more votes for Democrats.

The only way I see Congress in its current form letting them in, is if they take electoral votes and rep seats from Democrat states and give it to PR, so that the balance doesn't get screwed since they, as a state, would be as blue as California.

They're culturally different from us too, I don't see how well it would work.

To pick on the already neutered Spanish duh

You realize that state hood would require them to pay federal taxes, taking them out of leech status. Puerto Rico is already US soil.

did either of us have a part in that?
i dont think so.
were talking right now bud.

They already pay most federal taxes

Oh okay then.

I guess you guys don't need the taxes and money that you get from Puerto Rico and don't wanna be the only ones that can sell them stuff.

Independence might actually solve the problem.

I'm thinking more of the natural resources we could exploit the fuck out of that the burrito munchers are to stupid to exploit themselves.

It's not like we don't throw hundreds of billions of dollars at stupid shit as it is already though. In the long run it could make for a stronger super united states. I'm not sure how you'd tackle the low skill worker problem but stabilizing the region would take a lot of low skill work they might be best put to.

Well unless trump holds up his end of the bargain on immigration and the wall all of that shit is happening anyway. If it comes to it anyway it would be better to make us a larger nation with more shit to exploit for our benefit.

Those lazy welfare recipients don't deserve the vote much less statehood.