I have become redpilled on the economy, Sup Forums, and it is making me depressed. I'm on the job market(currently a software project manager, looking to change companies) and I've been to about 20 different companies for interviews, in Boston. I work from home, this is my first time ever going to real offices.
And holy shit I've realized they're all the same. When you're a worker, you're not even human, you're basically just a worker-ant, and every piece of infrastructure in the country is just a tool to deliver laborers or resources from point A to point B. Workers just spending most of their waking hours toiling in the mines(offices), and they don't even know why. You're there all year so you can afford to take a couple weeks vacation, drive a decent car, and live a "comfortable" life with your family(when you're not laboring or commuting, which is most daylight hours).
All the offices I've seen are literally the same. They might be set up differently, but every single one is designed with a goal in mind of keeping workers there the longest and so they can work most efficiently.
And Boston(and every other city, I imagine) is literally set up like SimCity, where the entire goal of the game is to deliver the faceless "population" to their jobs in the most efficient way possible, so that you can afford to build more infrastructure to deliver more workers.
So what is the point of it all, Sup Forums? Why does humanity work, and why is everything we build purely to do more work? That's the part I can't seem to figure out. Is it all done so we can produce more food? Is it purely out of greed? Is the idea of "doing work" just instinctual?
Help me. I was looking forward to getting a new job, but now being a faceless worker ant makes me sick.
Sounds like the opening chapter of the book Unscripted.
Justin Mitchell
>work 16 hours a day for a peasant lifestyle while the world goes to shit around me
kek
Justin Young
sounds like 1984
Jordan Brown
Read the bible and The Wealth of Nations.
You are destined for big things especially if you are a Christian American. You are the backbone of our world even though you dont get recognized for it.
Noah Cook
>Nu-Sup Forums thinks this is a long post Life and struggle are synonyms user, the sooner you realize this the sooner you can be successful. Maybe we exist for God or were imprisoned by the demiurge, but the only sure fire thing that we can tell from this life is that we exist to spread our genetic material. Work for the wellbeing of your family and the advancement of your volk.
Leo Taylor
In Germany, we have 30 days of paid vacation. Plus 15 religious holidays. Plus roughly 100 weekends.
=> almost 150 free days per year Plus evenings
Juan Scott
>being a wagecuck in 2017
Nathaniel Jones
>This
But not only your family, but for your nation.
Isaiah Walker
>my post sounds like a book written by a baseball announcer what
Angel Scott
sounds like you've grown up
Logan Torres
It's not actually a long post, but posts with titles that say Long Post are 80% more likely to get responses
Don't believe me, try it
Jaxson Rivera
Get rid of all loans. Save every penny. Live frugally.
After a couple of years you can move to some cheap part of the world and just stare at the horizon.
No kike will have a hold over you or will be able to dictate how much/little you should work for them.
Jaxon Hughes
>read The Wealth of Nations I don't see the value in this. WoN was written when capitalism still existed. Even as far back as the 1910s, most Americans were self employed. The current situation of wage slavery is reminiscent of feudalism.
Jason Perez
Dont listen to this man. Germany is in the position it is because of this attidude. As Americans, we have the responsibility to carry our great country through our labor.
We didnt get to the top by doing nothing for 15p days.
Samuel Watson
Yep, city life it's the devil.
Elijah Jackson
>Boston(and every other city, I imagine) is literally set up like SimCity >So what is the point of it all, Sup Forums? It's all for the players user, and we know who they are don't we?
Justin Sullivan
You can still be self employed. In fact, it is much easier now.
Tyler Evans
"Top Down" Perspective will make you realize & see many things.
Didn't we get to the top by not taxing income or property for 150 years, then winning by default thanks to Hitler fucking up and obliterating Yurop?
Dylan Ward
>pesant lifestyle? Don't take advice from metrosexuals. Doing your own thing and not giving a shit about your apartment, who you're wearing, or your car (asking as it's running) is underrated.
Connor Gutierrez
>So what is the point of it all, Sup Forums? Why does humanity work, and why is everything we build purely to do more work? That's the part I can't seem to figure out. Is it all done so we can produce more food? Is it purely out of greed? Is the idea of "doing work" just instinctual?
How old are you?
Why do you work? To create and support a family, hoping you'll get back love and warmth.
To accumulate wealth in order to achieve your dreams or do a hobby you love.
In order to accumulate wealth to attain freedom. Where you are not depended on anybody else. ______________________________________________ ______________________________________________ If you are 23 years old, you'll grow out of this angsty post teen phase. If you are older ffs OP man up
Xavier Martin
The data would disagree with you.
Jaxon Brown
Your mistake was choosing a static career which forces you to perform a specific task like developing software. This is not the job market's fault, it's yours. kys pleb
Isaiah Ross
Hi, I am a Sr. Developer who is also in Boston ... your perception of everything is extremely skewed and inaccurate. You've just been working at home, isolated and alone, for X number of years and you have social atrophy.
Thomas Gomez
list some careers that don't fall into this trap
Alexander Evans
Anonymous5 is Wayne Lambright.
Kayden Morris
My nation or filling up some jews swiss bank account? My nation or fo mo programz n shiet? My nation or for more sand wars for israel. If you dont live in hitlers germany, youre just a good goy.
Carson Hughes
What should we be then?
Luke Reed
We have the same purchasing power as you do, despite working less.
It's called productivity and investment into labor.
Leo Adams
Just sell shit on ebay it is that fucking easy.
Tyler Thompson
How edgy.
John Cooper
my sides
Anthony Johnson
THE ECONOMY NEEDS TO SHUT DOWN TO SAVE THE SOUTHERN GRASSFINCH
IF A FEW OLD PEOPLE FREEZE TO DEATH BECAUSE OF CARBON TAXES SO WHAT
DEATH TO HUMANS, TREE WAR NOW
Noah Flores
He'll realize that it's all a big distraction. To keep us away from meddling in the ruling classes information that they proudly flaunt all over the internet. I went through a similar type of redpill but more esoteric. Did quite a bit of marketing and FOREX study, Ad agencies and corrupt politicians and zionist agenda's seem to be the main cause of everything.
Also Indivisible and the Kinsey Institute are both connected to elizabeth warren.
Aiden Myers
>software project manager >"I'm an idea guy"
Michael Moore
I'm a welder and I enjoy my work and take pride in my beautiful welds so I don't mind working all the time. Not very materialistic and building things is fun to me. Saving to buy a patch of land and live self sufficiently
Robert Baker
Aww is the widdle wagie gonna ragie?
Hunter Moore
You are very wrong, programming is one of the most flexible and marketable skills for the modern times and anyone who doesn't know how to program is the real pleb
Jackson Anderson
So give me the answer then, why is literally everything we do as a nation or as an economy designed to increase production. Every road that gets laid, every building built, every law passed is for the purposes of getting work done more efficiently...
why? what is the end-game? what's at the end of the tunnel?
Nathaniel Ward
There is no point to it. You are Bill Gates nigger cattle. Fucking MIT nigger thinks he is relevant. Enjoy your slavery.
Lucas Williams
Doctor Teacher Prosecutor Police Officer Fireman EMT
In other words, literally anything that is inherently rewarding and/or exciting and dynamic. It's important that it be inherently rewarding and not just specifically rewarding to you because once you take your passion (e.g. software design) and turn it into a career, it becomes a drag.
Luis Myers
not sure what you mean, all i do is crack the whip on developers and go to meetings
Adam Richardson
The point is to live and procreate and make sure they have the opportunity to succeed. I'm Christian but I also have secular opinions on a lot of things.
>go to work >my wife goes to work >looking for a home >have children after we get that home >raise them well and to be God fearing >hope they continue the process >pray
That's how we do things OP. Humans have always had to work. I don't get why people think we didn't have to. We've achieved so much luxury with this modern lifestyle. We used to have to hunt and gather. Then we farmed and raised livestock. Then we went into the mines and mills. Now we're in offices. It's progression of the average work that we've always had to do.
Colton Garcia
This is why OP is miserable. He chose a career based on what was most "marketable" instead of what would actually fulfill him
Bentley Rogers
>missing the point of the post, that said EVERYONE is part of the machine, because basically everything the state does is to increase the work that gets done
Asher Campbell
That's fake news, I studied CS because I actually enjoy working on technology.
I enjoy my job, I'm miserable because I just realized that I don't know what the endgame of the economy is.
Michael Johnson
We work the way we do *because it's been a successful strategy in helping us to grow our population.
The end result is proliferation of our genes as a species. As to why that is the goal of all life? Take it up with whoever programmed the laws and framework of our universe.
Tyler Price
not every single job is pleb tier cubicle slave
Charles Walker
But you are just a tool to drive bigger businesses forward, completely dependent on them.
Landon Gutierrez
>And Boston(and every other city, I imagine) is literally set up like SimCity, where the entire goal of the game is to deliver the faceless "population" to their jobs in the most efficient way possible, so that you can afford to build more infrastructure to deliver more workers. >Boston...is literally set up...to deliver the faceless "population" to their jobs in the most efficient way possible
This alone should discredit everything OP has said
Zachary Russell
Nah man its true. Have na aquaintance who travels around, takes shit and sells it on ebay for profit.
Jaxon Taylor
There is no endgame. It's to produce and then produce some more. You're having an existential crisis because you're trapped in a shitty office all day "omg it's all the same all the offices are the same we're all just like worker ants". What about chefs? What about journalists? What about skydiving instructors? Most people DON'T work in an office, retard.
Christian James
>What about chefs? great if you want to stand all day long, every day of the week, covered in sweat and with an aching back. not uncommon to work 70 hour weeks as a chef, and good luck taking time off. > What about journalists? dead profession, desu > What about skydiving instructors? If you're happy making $40k a year a lot of doors open to you
Xavier Scott
Now do you understand why people want socialism.
Sebastian Wilson
It isn’t work if you enjoy it.
Nathaniel Powell
I've been a cook and it's a fucking blast if you're into it. Chefs are genuinely passionate about it. >if you're happy making 40k a year a lot of doors open for you This is why your life sucks. muh shekels
Justin Allen
what have any communist societies ever done to address those things?
Austin Johnson
Oh I'm sorry. Did you think life was solely for your enjoyment?
Life is hard and it's shit for ever thing that's alive. Look at how brutal nature is. We do all this bs to protect ourselves from nature.
Kayden Thomas
The problem is in today’s system most of the money goes to some rich CEO’s offshore bank account. It doesn’t go to the people.
Eli Gonzalez
Holy shit that's almost half the year not working! That's awesome
Hudson Bailey
>why does humanity work That's not your real question. What you want to know is why YOU'RE working. You need a goal, I recommend starting a family and saving enough money for early retirement.
Charles White
I don’t know, but the horrors of capitalism is worse then the horrors of communism.
Christopher Stewart
> 16 hours a day
wrong
Henry Baker
Plus over 50% of what you earn is taken from you to support all those refugees :^)
Blake Martin
It´s all because all the fucking shills are not happy under oligarchic rule of their puppet masters
William Evans
Lol like no one starves in the state of nature. What dreck
Carson Torres
All in all we're all just a brick in the wall...
Connor White
I suggest you look at things another way. You are not your job. It does not define you as a person. It is simply a means to an end, that end being a paycheck so you can afford and fund the life style you want for yourself. Maybe you're into movies or video games or whatever. Doing those things outside of work is a perfectly valid way to spend your time and money. Do what makes you happy. We live in an unprecedented age of wealth, security, and entertainment. You aren't a peasant clawing at the dirt all summer to grow the crops you eat during the winter in your shitty 1-room dirt-floor hovel. You aren't a human automaton on the assembly line in a 19th century factory when the owner would rather you die of exhaustion than pay you the pennies of your wages. You aren't some street rat hobo begging for change from uncaring pedestrians so you can afford a Big Mac at McDonald's so you don't starve that day.
Instead, you've got prospects, a home, food, security, comfort, and entertainment. It might not be much in your eyes, and it may seem trivial or pointless or mundane, but put things in perspective. It's not so bad. I'm not saying don't strive to improve your lot if you're not satisfied, but be real for a second; a boring office job isn't the end of the fucking world. Take it easy, dude, and good luck to you.
Nolan Hill
>peasant Peasant implies working and toiling for someone else's behalf. What you're doing now is more peasantry than someone who grows their own food. What do you value more; your liberty or petty creature comforts? If the latter, return to your serf lifestyle of bluetooth connected sandals that report your foot sweat cortisol content to 100 private corporations and the NSA, if you value your freedom heed the words of Ted Kaczynski: Montanas semper liberi. The things you own end up owning you. By doing without the latest finery, you will realize what is important, and be happier that you don't need to dedicate entire paychecks to replacing crap every year, to having to keep up with the jones', to prostrate yourself before the system just so you can eject out the existence it tells you is the one you want.
Michael Cruz
we're all toiling away at our various jobs and living our various lived with the communal purpose of one day reaching the Singularity, becoming one with each other, and with God. if you look at the rate of technological progress in the past 50 years, and how insanely it's increasing compared to the millennia before it, you'll realize: it's a lot closer than you'd think.
Jackson Gray
I am having the same thoughts, I live in the suburbs but recently visited rural Tennessee and I love the natural world so much, I am reconsidering being an engineer. At the end of the day, happiness is more important than wealth. Being encompassed in nature and feeling a connection to the land is something I now am dreaming of having.
Samuel Turner
You retards are missing the point of the post.
I'm asking, on the MACRO level, what is driving society to focus entirely on the economy?
I'm happy with my job, fuck.
Xavier Murphy
Oh, my mistake.
I don't think, on a macro level, there really is a specific goal other than just improving our immediate conditions. I think everyone is just doing what they can to advance their own personal positions, and whatever advancements they make to improve themselves tend to spill over and benefit us as a whole. In other words, there is no central plan, society is just the sum of millions of little plans all being followed simultaneously. Perhaps you could say that one benefit of constant improvement is the increase in wealth and power to use as a reserve should we ever encounter a new, unforeseen problem. We can't see everything in existence, so if we stop when we don't see anymore problems, we leave ourselves vulnerable to problems that exist but which we are currently unaware of due to limited knowledge and/or perception.
Jacob Brooks
I answered your question above faggot
Jose Reyes
Rich
Nicholas Foster
good post, thanks
Bentley Rivera
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel,” "Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat," "With gentiles, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,”
Ian Cook
Sounds like white collar work isn't your cup of tea anymore and you need something to feel accomplished.
I went through that same crisis and it's quite easily medicated through fitness and lifting weights.
William Nelson
Only "people" in 3 world shittholes die and that's a good thing
Logan Butler
It actually goes to boomers.
Leo Perez
Yeah working sucks and there's no real way around it unless you get a big movement of people to change it. Well of course you're going to feel like a drone you picked an office career man. If you're that upset by it look for other prospects elsewhere. And thing about the offices, well no shit bro company's want you to be there it saves them the effort of hiring someone else who might fuck up the rhythm they have going. Well we could sit here all day talking about why it all turned out like this and then later start going from political philosophy to just philosophy in general but to save us the time or get the ball rolling I would say that it's busy work. I mean what else would a mass amount of people do all day if no one worked. Not sure what Macro fully means but I guess nothing. You see everyone doing the same thing so you do the same. You would be surprised with how many people don't really question things.
Mason Hall
comrade do i have news for you there's a pretty good book written by some bearded guy you should give it a read
Parker Thomas
the egyptian built pyramids for a reason we live in a society for winners and winners need human capital to look down upon and lord over it's the nature of life ever since
Easton Sullivan
exactly... we can't see the overarching purpose of our actions, and even our lives, just as the termite cannot understand its reason for living. yet, somehow, with nobody giving orders or leading the workers, they build structures like pic related to live in. they're insanely space-efficient and structurally sound, a marvel of engineering... but again, there's no foreman overseeing the construction project, no architect planning the structure out. yet, they build a complex structure to live in communally.
humans are similar in nature, but we are a much more advanced and intelligent species. we are the chosen species of this planet, blessed with the ability to reason about the nature of the world around us, create insane technology, and even acquire the ability to look inwards upon ourselves, reflect upon our own nature, and, with enough discipline, mentally reprogram certain aspects of our own individual behavior.
as such, what fate could possibly be our end goal but a Singularity whereupon we merge our species' minds together and become one with God?
if you can't imagine such a thing, don't worry, you're just a termite.
Julian Butler
It's just emergent systems skewed by distributed personality traits.
Most people aren't very creative. Either they just don't have the biologic capability or it's suppressed by bad habits. An office or factory setting is the only way they can be economically productive and live a good life.
For those who do have strongly creative personalities, it's hell.
Look at IQ distributions (strongly related to creativity) and economic success and you'll have a pretty good idea of how rare these exceptions are. Schools or any other factory setting bent on large scale economic production is not going to cater to those single digit percentages.
They're just there to make the 100 IQ +/- 1SD people capable of actually producing something useful.
The monotomy of anything that scales that much will be detestable to you if you're around the 1% in the distribution.
and I don't know the solution. Become an entrepreneur or other creative, sure. Good luck because the chance of actual success in creative fields is depressing. So we're screwed either way.
Kevin Ortiz
Looks like the perfect time for you to take the Vargpill
All human activity derives from energetic exchange. Money is fueled by energetic exchange, business is fueled by energetic exchange, your car is fueled by energetic exchange, rituals are fueled by energetic exchange, and so on. Currency stores energy as a talisman, that's why it's covered in magical symbols.
All human activity is directed to work for two reasons. The first is 'pleasant servitude'. It was discovered that honey works better than vinegar for slaves, so now you have your honey in the form of entertainment. Your toil is to pay off the energetic exchange that was needed to build the slaveowning system. That 'money' was, via financial wizardly, pulled from the future essentially (in very gross terms). That's why there's more debt than money that can exist, it's the power of fractional reserve banking.
You're working because your owners wanted slaves and paid for you on a loan based off your future work's energetic output. Incidentally, this is also why it's illegal to kill yourself. You don't belong to you.
Welcome to Earth.
Joseph Rodriguez
nailed it, except you didn't mention that the struggles creative people face lead a scant chosen few of them to greatly succeed and affect the human race in some non-trivial way.
or at least, that's how it has been up until now. with an always-connected global communications network in our pockets at all times, anyone can anonymously and instantaneously spread their memes all over the world. if I was born just a decade earlier, I would have to be lucky enough to end up being a very privileged celebrity or politician to acquire such memetic reach.
as it stands, I am passing my memes onto everyone reading this post. it's up to you to filter my words through your own highly-evolved logical faculties and determine whether or not there is truth to what I am saying. but at least my memes had the chance to reach you to begin with; a few decades ago, such power was highly controlled and given to a very chosen few. a few centuries before that, and you'd be lucky to spread your memes to anyone outside your village.
progress is accelerating at a borderline alarming pace. the Singularity draws near.
Robert King
when everyone blindly believes stupid shit like evolution, globe earth, global warming, and similar, this is what you get
you accepted a belief that you're just a spec of dust on another spec of dust in a vast universe, literally created from apes, and now you're fucking surprised everyone acts like a dumb zombie?
you bought a fairy tale and bought it so hard you actually get angry when a reasonable person tries to get to your shitty retarded mind that the earth is flat and that the whole globe thing is a fraud
enjoy it and stop whining, you fucking ape
Isaac Ortiz
Move the fuck out of the city, run your own shit, and help small businesses. I'm an uneducated (self proclaimed) software architect, stand by my work not some piece of paper any fool who attends can pretty much get. 13 years now, used to be a tradesman before that... I rarely have went in to a small business that I can't automate shit and improve their bottom line. Since women are worthless I usually target what they do and automate their job, so they lose their job in the end, and I really try not to automate good men's jobs if possible. And when you save a business owner millions, sometimes 10s or 100s of millions, they are just fine with paying you a good chunk of that change to make that happen. Contract signed! BOOM. Fuck being a unimportant worker bee for big business in a shitbox city, be your own man, your own boss, and make your own way. I do have some major big fish clients as well, and they'd love to have me "on staff", but I tell them there is more to life than playing dress up, acting PC, attending "workplace diversity" meetings, and wasting your life in a grey cubicle.
Christopher Rogers
Looks like you have gained class consciousness.
Lincoln Harris
I agree, being complacent is fucking niggertier
Nathaniel Wood
why do you constantly larp in fucking threads that aren't yours kys you faggot
Leo Bell
When order completely collapses, you and your family will have food and other resources needed to live, and there will be some distance between you and the starving, spiteful, miserable hordes.