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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster
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Hi comrade

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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First for benis.

Daily reminder that there has never been a successful communist society.

Between 0000 and 0100 GMT this morning a fire broke out on the lower levels of a 24 storey tower block. The fire is believed to have been caused by an exploding fridge cooling unit. The layout of the apartments places the kitchen adjacent to the outside walls, which had recently been fitted with highly flammable insulation as part of a rejuvenation effort. It is thought that power surges caused by faulty wiring, which also caused a small fire in 2013, could have caused the fridge to explode, and may have damaged mains fire alarms earlier. By the time the fire alarms had begun to sound, a large section of the exterior wall was engulfed in flames. This was further exacerbated by a "stay still" fire drill order as the towers are supposed to be designed to isolate fires to each apartment for two hours, however the entire block was engulfed within four. By the time an evacuation order was issued, the fire had reached the staircase, which is also where the gas piping was housed.
Residents had formed a group to draw attention to these issues, fearing for their safety after the earlier fire. Eventually the landlords gagged their action group and they began to suspect it would take a major incident for people to notice. Sadiq Khan has been briefed to expect over 200 deaths.

kys

grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/

>It is a truly terrifying thought but the Grenfell Action Group firmly believe that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and incompetence of our landlord, the KCTMO, and bring an end to the dangerous living conditions and neglect of health and safety legislation that they inflict upon their tenants and leaseholders

>It is our conviction that a serious fire in a tower block or similar high density residential property is the most likely reason that those who wield power at the KCTMO will be found out and brought to justice! The Grenfell Action Group believe that the KCTMO narrowly averted a major fire disaster at Grenfell Tower in 2013 when residents experienced a period of terrifying power surges that were subsequently found to have been caused by faulty wiring. We believe that our attempts to highlight the seriousness of this event were covered up by the KCTMO with the help of the RBKC Scrutiny Committee who refused to investigate the legitimate concerns of tenants and leaseholders.

>In the last twenty years and despite the terrifying power surge incident in 2013 and recent fire at Adair Tower, the residents of Grenfell Tower have received no proper fire safety instructions from the KCTMO. Residents were informed by a temporary notice stuck in the lift and one announcement in a recent regeneration newsletter that they should remain in their flats in the event of fire.

>The Grenfell Action Group predict that it won’t be long before the words of this blog come back to haunt the KCTMO management and we will do everything in our power to ensure that those in authority know how long and how appallingly our landlord has ignored their responsibility to ensure the heath and safety of their tenants and leaseholders. They can’t say that they haven’t been warned!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster

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Why is it that whenever you guys create one of these, you never show the deaths caused by capitalism?

Capitalism is not "anything that is not communism". If capitalism is based on the state staying out of things you can't say that imperialism is capitalistic. In dact you would have to say imperialism is socialist.
Anyway, economic crisis and people being poor is not a fault of capitalism. People are always poor. You need work in order to generate products for consumption. Capitalism does this great thing in which you don't die becaise now you can work 8hs a day or less and buy multiple products with what you earn instead of having to make everythig yourself.

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Killed by the state, not the free unregulated transaction of value between voluntary participants. You want more state, and it always leads to the same thing.

Put your spic flag back on faggot.

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Hello tankies, wazzup?

>the soviet economy grew because of communism
>the soviet union wasn't real communism

why chose one, when you can have both?

With the abolition of the freedom to fail, the freedom to thrive goes with it.

>Be comunist
>fuck toddlers

How can you actually think communism works when it has never worked?

PSOE is not marxist you fool, is a neoliberal bourgeois party

In the same way mars colonies have never ''worked'', is a project for the future.

Socialist young movement thats not Psoe you dumbass

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Puedes volver a ponerte tu bandera Paco

Si no tienes trabajo no es culpa del capitalismo es culpa tuya por fracasado

Why are you directly copying other peoples posts off leftpol and posting them itt

Make up your own stuff comrade

I like commies because Stalin killed the kikes.

Lol. Commies always reveal what a bunch of useless fags they are. How many people do you think inherited a company? How many of the worlds major companies were inherited?

Ignore the spic.
Sage

>Communists
>Consistent logic
pick one

You do know Stalin was a kike and he murdered far more non-kikes? kek

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>EVERY CHILD THAT DIES FROM HUNGER AND EVERY PERSON THAT DIES FROM CIGARETTE'S (Don't mind that China is the #1 leading country in this exact statistic, but it's a mixed bag of Communism and capitalism OK GOY! Jeez) AND EVERY BODY THAT WAS KILLED FROM THE NAZI HOLOCAUST (National Socialism isn't really that capitalist but you get it) AND EVERY PERSON KILLED IN VIETNAM (which wasn't really Capitalist America's fault to begin with but nevermind that) AND EVERY CONGOLESE KILLED BY DA EVIL BELGIAN HITLER (Oh though the guy was da king of Belgium at this time just disregard this for now ok goy?) AND EVERY PERSON THAT DIED IN WW1 (Most of the countries at this time were monarchs including Germany, Austro-Hungary, Britain and Russia) ARE ALL BECAUSE OF CAPITALISM, DON'T YOU GET IT GOYIM THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM!

>Cockshott
>Cottrell

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Like why is corruption a thing haahahahaha like nigga just stop the corruption hahaha

But neoliberalist capitalism IS the most efficient means of production.

Why do you deny basic reality?

The future will be EXTREMELY capitalist.

This image is the very reason why everybody laughs at communists.

Anime is nationalist and capitalist and is the antithesis of communism.

Is this a copy of fashwave esthetic?

communism kills anime

therefore communism must die

Yes, commies can't come up with their own memes.

Holy shit user you might actually get a (you) from that jobless Spanish turd for this.

why do commies believe the working class is magically non-corruptible and perfect?

why do they deny neuroscience and instincts entirely

it's pretty embarrassing how stupid their ideology is

he's a pretty butthurt leftist faggot but I discovered early on that he's too much of a weakling to reply to ACTUAL arguments

these people are FAR FAR too brainwashed to question their own ideology

fashwave is a copy of vaporwave a anti-capitalist meme.

*an

I always like to joke with them

>Oh man the space race, if only you could claim that as a great invention of communism. But since it wasn't real communism, chalk it up to a victory for state capitalists.

>vaporwave is an anti capitalist meme
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

bro, it grew out of early 90s nostalgia
normies that listens to it now go "omg wow I remember windows, omg wow japan during the early 90s was so fucking cool xD"

also, all of the windows 95 and other corporate logos must make you faggots so fucking mad

It has nothing to do with you raging losers

It was literally created out of 80's and 90's nostalgia you dumb fuck.

nobody cares you jobless edgy teen

lmao are you actually a communist?
how is that even possible?

> If capitalism is based on the state staying out of things you can't say that imperialism is capitalistic. In dact you would have to say imperialism is socialist.
You have no idea what capitalism or socialism mean

these terms are fucking OUTDATED AND MEANINGLESS

only leftist LOSERS with no jobs use them

kill yourself

>replying to a random 3 hour old post.
WEW
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These fucking commie LOSERS actually believe they will have to work LESS hours and get MORE personal resources if we somehow got rid of the capitalists.

They don't understand that the working class already consumes 99% of all consumer goods.

It's hilariously how dumb these fucking faggots are, holy shit lol

Like vegans, I've never met a communist or socialist in America that wasn't:

1) A skinny twig in great need of a face punching

2) A fat fuck in great need of a diet

No one will ever follow you here because you are LOSERS. You're literally almost all faggots and closet homos that suck hairy balls.

How retarded are you

they're also ugly as sin and smell like dog turds

just kill them all

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Communism is the way to go.

Right wing capitalists are massive cucks that want to get fucked by globalists.

I laughed my ass off the whole way through this image, but especially keked at "khmer rouge(not communist)"

wew

these people actually want others to take them seriously

lmao

A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution.

I know bro.
I also ENJOY being poor and enslaved

viva la communism

who need empirical evidence when we have ideology

communism will be fucking dead in the next few decades as automation increases and destroys their narrative anyway

they actually think it will cause massive permanent unemployment lol

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Don't toy with him user that's just mean, look what you did .

>enables material abundance
It destroys material abundance.

capitalism increases material abundance and has done so empirically for over 100 years

>the free distribution of most or all economic output
these words make no fucking sense
the working class already consumes 99% of all consumer goods
how would communism magically make this "free"?

>holding of the means of producing this output in common
How would this benefit society?
Why is it bad that people that are good at producing things get to control production?
Why would it be good is production was democratic?
that would be retarded and would reduce living standards

also communism destroys anime

anime is nationalist and capitalist which is one reason why leftist cucks hate anime and call it bourgeoisie propaganda

you people are delusional teenangers, it's hilarious

on top of that, the russians and japs hated each other

japs today hate communism

and the JCP is a social democratic party that is even more right than the UK labour party

communists be killed senpai

they want to make everyone poor and enslaved

of course they deserve to die

FREE THE MARKET

KILL THE COMMIES

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Hello gomrades! :DDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies

Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim gib gib gib! DDDD
To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
httpswww.gommies.gomfug
httpswww.gommies.gomstarve

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here
httpswww.gommies.gomohfugme

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources
httpswww.gommies.gomohshid
httpswww.gommies.gom1984
httpswww.gommies.gomguck
httpswww.gommies.gomprobaganda
httpswww.gommies.gomXDDDD
httpswww.gommies.gomwheresfood
httpswww.gommies.gombenis

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:^)

wow epic
im sure that totally destroyed our arguments and you're not upset at all

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That post doesn't even mention communism. I hope you don't think socialism and communism are the same thing.

>Replying to someone who made a single post 2 and half hours ago.
Holy shit you're all retarded.

Nothing in any political system is voluntary. People have to work for the bourgeoisie or starve. Ancaps like to pretend that we live in an infinite world with infinite resources and if you don't like the way things are you can just go start a new society somewhere else.

All political systems are ways of dealing with scarcity. Capitalism (like every system before it since the dawn of agriculture) is a system for dealing with scarcity of resources where a privileged minority can live a life of excess thanks to other people's labour.

Death to commies.

>Capitalism (like every system before it since the dawn of agriculture) is a system for dealing with scarcity of resources where a privileged minority can live a life of excess thanks to other people's labour.
Meanwhile, in NK....

Oh don't play this fucking shit, both communists and socialists deflect on the topic of the USSR and every other socialist country by just calling them "state capitalism".

>People have to work for the bourgeoisie or starve.
I just started up an ice cream shop and I employ 2 people.
am I a bourgeoisie slaver?

Face the facts kid, the working class consumes 99% of all consumer goods.
How would ANYTHING except increasing economic production give the working class more consumer goods and higher living standards.

Surplus value is IMPOSSIBLE.
You retards act like there is some big treasure chest waiting at the end of your journey.
There isn't.

Taking over the means of production will not benefit the working class materially. This FACT makes marxists so incredibly upset.

Kill all communists.

>infinite world with infinite resources
nope LMAO
where did we ever say this?

>is a system for dealing with scarcity of resources where a privileged minority can live a life of excess thanks to other people's labour.
the main benefactor of capitalism is the working class
they consume 99% of all END PRODUCTS produced in the economy
capitalism increases their efficiency, allows them to consume MORE and gives them the choice to work less hours if the economy is productive to allow such a thing, pic fucking related

kill all commies

nigg nogg

think about this redpill guys

Only support DPRK. It is not a socialist state. The north Korean Populace working for the Kim dynasty is not socialism, it is state capitalism.

holy shib, uptooted

>state capitalism
I can't wait for the day when you people and your outdated nonsense terms are thrown into the dustbin of history.

Wait for the automation.

You'll see, you dumb genetically inferior commie turds.

*only tankies.

WHHAAAAT?

THIS.

YEAH!