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Bumped and Heil Woden
Welcome, Brother, Hail Wodanaz!!!
Hi there!
you people really ought to try the gnostic pill if you're going to have the stance on Christianity that you do.
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Why dont we adopt Judaism?
Pic very related
Take the pagan pill
Jews are the enemy of the Aryan race
Yes but their religion is exploitable and its already shown to work.
It'd be much easier to convince the sheep to convert to Judaism than paganism.
Do like the romans, convert but put in pagan ideals where necessary.
>It'd be much easier to convince the sheep to convert to Judaism than paganism.
Do you want to convert Europeans to a Semitic religion, where they worship a Jewish god? Fuck off
bump
HEIL
Why would it matter, if you eradicate the jews and lie long enough nobody will care.
Welcome brothers
Nice, listening to it rn
>Pic related
Hey guys, what's up?
>pic related
>Take the pagan pill
every single "pagan" pantheon eventually goes back to a monothesitic creator. in the germanic it all roots back to Ginnungagap, Greek, Chaos, Egyptian Nu, in the Vedic tradition, its Brahman (not to be confused with Brahma). pretty much all religions attriubte the same characteristics that Ginnugagap has.
and Ginnugagap has a mind, and will of its own, for it is the source of all creation. and quite frankly none of the gods you worship have anything to do with the creation of the material, or spiritual realms.
also Odin dies at Ragnarok, and with 2 human survivors Ginnugagap re assumes singular control of the universe after those who were given authority die, or go into hiding after Ragnarok.
>every single "pagan" pantheon eventually goes back to a monothesitic creator. in the germanic it all roots back to Ginnungagap, Greek, Chaos, Egyptian Nu, in the Vedic tradition, its Brahman (not to be confused with Brahma). pretty much all religions attriubte the same characteristics that Ginnugagap has.
Their isn't a monotheistic creator, it was the void before it was made by the gods and Odin isn't the only god
>Worshiping trees.
lmao.
>Acknowledging the one true God of the Trinity and worship in a magnificent building.
m-muh white religion, muh primitive concepts, muh lack of theology and/or philosophy.
Nice pic though, serves my point excellently.
You're an idiot that worships a Jew, we don't worship trees but we respect nature
>post pic on worship of a dead kike and King king
>worships a Jew
(((Pagan))) education.
>respect nature.
>This is exclusive to pagans.
I love nature and care deeply for it.
>>post pic on worship of a dead kike and King king
Incoherent gibberish typed with trembling, frustrated fingers.
>pagan thread
>it's just Norse shit
So why is Celtic, Slavic, Greek, or Egyptian paganism never once mentioned by either pagans or Christians in these threads?
>one true God
Proofs?
you misunderstood the entire post.
Ginnungagap is an entity, whose form is a primordial void, and yes, he is the monotheistic creator of the spiritual and material realms
> before it was made by the gods
there is pretty much 0 scriptural backing for this notion. nothing made Ginnugagap, it made itself.
>Odin isn't the only god
no, but he is represented as being Ginnungagap manifested into the flesh
i swear, pagans are worse than catholics.
>So why is Celtic, Slavic, Greek, or Egyptian paganism never once mentioned by either pagans or Christians in these threads?
You have seen Varg's videos I assume. The Gods are all the same because every country in Evropa used to be inhabited solely by Nordics after which shitskins appropriated the Gods and sullied their aryan nature.
>Proofs?
>John 1
hi, I'm a gnostic christian mentioning these things right now.
>every single "pagan" pantheon eventually goes back to a monothesitic creator
Wrong.
>the bible is proof that the bible is true
Oh boy here we go.
god hates pride. the spirit of God does not dwell in temples built by the hands of men acts 17:24 acts 7:48
read over psalms and proverbs, whats beautiful to men is ugly to god, and vice versa.
Pagan education? You literally worship Rabbi Yeshua Bar Yosef.
It's a pagan thread, not just Norse check the Q&A, only Aryan pagan religion though so no Egyptian gods
>Ginnungagap is an entity, whose form is a primordial void, and yes, he is the monotheistic creator of the spiritual and material realms
It's a place, not a monotheistic creator. You can interpret it that way if you want but then you aren't pagan
All these cultures used to be Aryan, I don't like using Nordic cause it isn't accurate but Nordics are in general the most unmixed Aryans
>not just Norse
Except it is because it's the only thing any of you ever talk about.
>Except it is because it's the only thing any of you ever talk about.
No, it's not, no one asked otherwise about Germanic or any of the other Aryan pagan religions. They all stem from the same root/
>Wrong.
I'm like, 100% sure I'm right.
>the bible is proof that the bible is true
>Oh boy here we go.
ok, the other guy is a little dense. here is a better argument
en.wikipedia.org
this guy is a PHD in mathematics from russia, who earned his degree at havard, he wrote about 43,000 pages about the mathematical implications of the original hebrew and greek texts, the basis of his argument is that every single writer of the bible had to have been the greatest mathematician in the world, who all conspired together to hide and keep the bibles "heptatic" structure, or that there was a divine overseer over every letter and space written in the bible.
youtube.com
here's a breakdown from a guy who was a billionare in the high technology industry. he also provides arguments for the bible having a supernatural origin outside of space and time, and presents it from an information technologist point of view.
>only Aryan
That would exclude Norse, then
Gnosticism is still just another flavor of Jewish bullshit, even if it is anti-YHWHist fanfiction
>every single "pagan" pantheon eventually goes back to a monothesitic creator
This is your brain on YHWH.
>>the bible is proof that the bible is true
>Ask for proofs to support a claim, rejects proofs without considering them.
>god hates pride.
In the sense of arrogance.
>the spirit of God does not dwell in temples built by the hands of men
Correct, God rests among worshipers and worshiping in a church of grand beauty is all the more inspiring having been built BY divine inspiration (God).
>whats beautiful to men is ugly to god
This refers to greed and lust.
>You literally worship Rabbi Yeshua Bar Yosef.
That's a negative.
>All these cultures used to be Aryan, I don't like using Nordic cause it isn't accurate but Nordics are in general the most unmixed Aryans
lmao.
>or any of the other Aryan pagan religions
You mean Indo-European pagan religion. The Aryans are a specific sub-group of Indo-Europeans, consisting only of Poos and Iranics. They are distinct from other such groups as Slavs and Germanics.
>No, it's not
You can call a building a police station, but if the only people who use it are bakers, it's a bakery. More so if the only people who come to it are looking to buy bread instead of reporting crimes.
If we were talking about "Aryan" religions, then this thread would be full of Vedic and Zoroastrian discussion.
Where's my fucken Pagan flag? MODS!!!!!!!!
only Slavs are true Aryans, all the history of the mystery "Germanic tribes" was created in XIX century by Loelewel and his crews
I just wondered: do the Ossetians have much in the way of old Iranic cultural leftovers? Or are they just ordinary Orthodox quasi-Russians now?
>It's a place, not a monotheistic creator. You can interpret it that way if you want but then you aren't pagan
well, its not the way I'm interpreting it, its what the scriptures say. it makes it abudantly clear that Ginnungagap has a mind and will of its own, and it was the driving force between Muspelheim and Niflheim clashing.
Nice try kike
Germanics are also Aryan, check the Q&A
LOL
Deny the truth, makes no difference to me
The Aryans all come, one tribe, it's not just ancient Iranians or Persians, they all have their own version of that Word
>You can call a building a police station, but if the only people who use it are bakers, it's a bakery. More so if the only people who come to it are looking to buy bread instead of reporting crimes.
This is a pagan board man holy shit, any aryan religion discussion, Zoroastrianism is not welcome on this board
this is your brain when you look at what the mythologies actually say rather than paying attention to what other people say about the mythologies.
>any aryan religion discussion,
>Zoroastrianism is not welcome
You're either a retard who doesn't know what "Aryan" means or a shill.
>flat earth
And here we have a plant sent to make us look retarded.
Fuck off faggots.
Saged
>Krauts are the enemy of the Aryan race
Fixed it for you
you worship a Canaanite war god
More specifically, they worship a mashup of Aten and Ahura Mazda under the name of a Canaanite war god.
Their no pagan gospel or scripture, we know of the Gods, and the stories around them
>Their no pagan gospel or scripture
Egyptians and the Vedic people kept holy scriptures. Try harder.
It's the white pride flag, paganism is literally the religion of white pride larping.
>Their no pagan gospel or scripture
So anything goes? Cookie-cutter-tier religion.
Then again watching Varg constantly pulling ''theology'' out of his ass confirms this.
>Germanics are also Aryan
By definition, they are not. Germanics are just Germanics. Just because they are part of the same IE superfamily as Aryans doesn't make them Aryans.
not really, I seek the creator of my soul, and I have found him. there is a divine spark in every human being, and I have found the source of that divine spark. try the gnostic pill.
geocnetric cosmology pretty much validates all theology. I don't really care that the earth is round or flat, infact if you look at the pictures, you can quite clearly see the earth is still round in the first place once you account for the firmament being part of the planet.
what I do care about is the earth is stationary, and I can use Einstein to prove it.
and I'm a gnostic christian. I'm a heretic to every other denomination of Christianity. you can think I'm an idiot but unless you understand both sides of the argument you're ill-equipped to disprove one or the other
I'm not a white supremacist though, that's just a retarded label that libtards love to use.
>he thinks germanic mythology isn't divinely inspired scripture
weewwww lad whats it disregarding the divinity of your own religion?
???
Medics are a collection of knowledge, their no gospel(things you have to take literally).
This is not a board for Egyptian paganism.
Fuck off
Yeah it does retard, "oh germans are humans, their germans" they both
not at all, Aryans were mix-up of many cultures living together, there were ginger indian-looking eastern slavs and blonde-haired western slavs
Yeah, you're a fucking plant. Should have known better.
>thinks white supremacist is a retarded label
>in this thread
>Fuck off
No really, I am interested.
>American.
Of all the different types of threads, this is one you should pass up on. Leave.
>he thinks the Vedas, which are the oldest books with the oldest recorded instance of Aryan aren't scriptures, despite the fact you can prove they have a supernatural origin outside of space and time
pagans, and catholics are like 2 eggs in the same basket.
Varg is retarded.
And yes, there are holy texts.
Asatru has the Prose Edda and the Poetic Edda and a number of Sagas.
Dodekatheism has Hesiod, Homer, Herodotus, etc. It's popular among Greeks. Jews and the Orthodox Church hate it because Dodekatheists are anti-socialist and very nationalist.
I don't know if the dudes who do Roman Paganism ever came up with a specific name but in addition to the things used by Dodekatheism you have the Aeneid, Cicero, Stoicism, etc.
Something most Pagans don't really talk about is that the various Paganisms aren't religions in the sense that Abrahamic religions are. Rather, it's about resuscitating parts of our current existing culture that have been swept aside by modernity and resurrecting mythological and theological traditions as needed.
that moment when those pagans dont like the devils or demons.
>tfw atheist
>tfw don't know how to convert to any religion
>tfw Pagan Iberians got wiped out and I don't have any cool gods to worship.
>pagans, and catholics are like 2 eggs in the same basket.
Their completely different religions
???
>telling someone to leave a discussion of theology because of their flag
no thanks. I have it on good authority between Genesis 1:1-2 and Isaiah 45:18 that Ragnarok already happened
Are you a Westerner?
Then you can worship the Greco-Roman pantheon.
Why can't it be white nationalist? The blacks get to be called nationalists on here.
That's debatable at best. Yahweh is a combination of attributes the Canaanite gods El and Baal-Hadad, along with a unique tradition (that of the war god named Yahweh), possibly via the Kenites.
There's no need to look beyond the native culture for his origins.
Hell is for ever!
nah, you're exactly like a catholic regardless of what ever you want to think or believe.
>>tfw Pagan Iberians got wiped out and I don't have any cool gods to worship.
Convert, to Roman paganism or Celtic, it's pretty easy, plus look at the mega for celtic readings
You only stay in Hel's realm till your reborn as time to think about what you've done
Makes no sense
paganism isn't a religion is an umbrella term.
> a fucking leaf
>HAIL VICTORY (Dicky Spencer is that you)
>has a long history of losing at everything
> he also provides arguments for the bible having a supernatural origin outside of space and time
then why did it take so long for humans to get this fucking book. holy shit you always get the tutorial at the beginning of a game, user.
i'm sure i've seen the three headed depiction of Abrahamic religions in soviet propaganda from the 20s/30s. once more the right has to plagiarise the left
Nobody is going to hear white nationalist and think of anything that can be differentiated from a white supremacist except for members of said group. Black nationalists, violent as they are, at least had the virtue of fighting from a position of oppression when the ideology surfaced in the mid-20th century, whereas white nationalists were started off as genocidal dicks.
>Medics are a collection of knowledge, their no gospel(things you have to take literally).
>Their no pagan gospel or scripture, we know of the Gods, and the stories around them
this is pretty much the same stance catholics take on the bible
you never answered >he thinks germanic mythology isn't divinely inspired scripture
weewwww lad whats it disregarding the divinity of your own religion?
who cares what normies think, phrases should be accurate
>i'm sure i've seen the three headed depiction of Abrahamic religions in soviet propaganda from the 20s/30s. once more the right has to plagiarise the left
Not an argument
We know of the gods, the story around them through stories. Difference cultures have different spins on the Aryan religion, so it's important not to take one specific text or story literally.
>then why did it take so long for humans to get this fucking book.
youtube.com
so if you take the constellations, and the names of their stars, and the stories behind it, you get the story of the bible from creation to the redemption, virgo is the virgin birth, Libra is the crucifixion, the price to be paid to re-balance the scales, leo the 12 tribes of Israel. this video is a short introduction to the subject, but basically knowing all the names of the stars, and their stories WAS the bible at the beginning of this creation era.
the lessons are roughly the same across all the religions once you work past the seeds of misinformation, the spirit of god dwells within you, the kingdom of heaven dwells within you, that you have a direct connection to god, and to not sin against the creator of, not the universe, but the creator of your soul.
Probably but that's not how language works. You can't just get people to start calling roses lilies and you can't expect people to start using two different terms for two variant forms of the label white racist, especially when the most prominent political group of white nationalists were white supremacists.
Sounds fishy.
Almost all of that has been in religions long before any abrahamic religions were thought of.
>???
Yeah, I guess realizing Krauts are the enemies lf the white race is a very hard redpill to swallow. Let me help you tho
Germanic tribes: Krauts
>destroyed Rome, which lead Europe to several centuries of darkness
Martin Luther: Kraut
>his chimp out lead to the 30 year war and the death of many white people
Karl Marx: kraut
>created socialism, this is quite self explanatory
Wilhelm II: Kraut
>made a small conflict between three (one of which was Kraut too) countries turn into a great war that resulted in many whites dying
Adolf Hitler: Kraut
>I won't blame him for WW2 becuase it was doomed to happen, but he targeted and exterminated several millions slavs (mostly Poles, and Serbs his Ustaše buddies killed), which like it not they are white.
Angela Merkel: kraut
>allows millions of unidentified aggressive military aged muslims come to Europe that resulted in the death of hundreds of whites.
>sanctions to the countries that refuse to be cucked by said Muhammedans
>highly anti-nationalist policies for all of Europe
Because we can't have a nation for ourselves
Honest question. Looking to understand.
Why believe in anything? Do you legitimately believe in your pagan religion? Is it honest? Do you literally believe in Thor, Zeus, or whatever else you believe in?
yes, and these mythologies are divinely inspired scriptures, the nordic runes have a metaphysical power behind them you ignorant LARPer. all these stories point to Ginnungagap as the creator of the creation/destruction cycle
like i said, whats it like disregarding the own divinity of your religion?
Times change, now the shoe is practically on the other foot.
Spain has one religion and is Catholicism. Quit trying to be an edgelord while you still can.
Ginnungagap is the void you fucking moron.
Not a sentient god.
And all creation in norse mythology came from the elements meeting, not a consious deity.
>basically knowing all the names of the stars, and their stories WAS the bible at the beginning of this creation era.
and like i stated, the constellation of Libra it has Deacons, some of these Deacons represent the crucifxion of Christ, Crux represented the cross, Lupus represented the Victim, and Corona represents the Crown. the story of the Libra constellation tells the story of christ being crucified on the cross (incoming irony)
> long before any abrahamic religions were thought of.
tell me mountain jew, do you believe in the soul?
I believe in the pagan gods because I feel them when I pray, go into nature, etc. Yeah I believe in Perkwunos, Dyeus Pitar, etc
Ginnungagap is not a living entity
He won't understand this for some reason
I am interested in spirituality, but i still fail at one basic question....
How the fuck worshipping anything will help to get shit done ?
I prefer real heroes and thinkers.
They bring tools to improve our societies, our race, etc.
They are role models.
What help can bring Thor or whatever other possible entity ?
How does it compare to the Fuhrer ?
It does not.
Makes waste the most precious thing: time.
Makes us weak.
It is a treason to the core of national socialism.
The poursuit of strengh and improvement.
No clergy in the waffen ss.
No worshippers.
If you are obsessed with gods, you are no NatSoc, but something else.
If you're spanish or portugese then worship the romans gods.
If you are of arab desent then worship hubal for extra heresy points.
I believe in fresh sparkling water; it is by far more refreshing than still water.