People say communism is against human nature but they never explain HOW it goes against human nature...

People say communism is against human nature but they never explain HOW it goes against human nature. Sounds like it's just an excuse to make up for the fact they have no real points against communism.

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Every point against communism is a point against capitalism. They are pretty much the same with holding 99 percent of the population in slavery and 1 percent wielding all the power.

>fails spectacularly every time
>caused tens of millions of people to starve to death
>jewish creation

>Sounds like it's just an excuse to make up for the fact they have no real points against communism.

>implying you can't say the same exact things for capitalism

Communism has nothing to do with Jews fuck off with that shit. That's not even an argument. Even if a Jew invented the ideology why should that matter? And China is a communist country and the next superpower. USSR, North Korea, Cuba, were all prosperous nations.

Because communism requires selflessness,and selflessness is not natural to the human being.

Communism requires every person to respect their position in society (likely decided for them by a "" democratic committee"") to which they must not speak against(connect with their ego) this placed position.

Humans are not like that. Free will never aligns with selflessness. Selflessness itself is unnatural. You can google more on this line on Buddhism, and the idea of how even when humans do a selfless act, their brains reward them with hormones that make them "feel good" about themselves.

And even if you could argue that selflessness was natural, you cannot expect a whole society hold the levels of selflessness expected from communism at all times at every moment.

This is why there were (and still exists) attempts at creating the "perfect soviet man", and this is also why deconstructionism in our post modern society attempts to reconstruct people and how soviets/communists still attempt to do that through ideological subversion in order to create people who can sustain that society (e.g destroy the notion of gender, destroy people's attachments to gender, destroy people's attachments themselves that is, destroy their ego)

If you research along these lines you can understand why communism will never be possible so long as people's nature (their ego) commands them and why as long as that exists, a stateless society of "everyone selflessly respecting their own place in the world" is impossible without a dictatorship to force said selflessness.

>Communism has nothing to do with Jews fuck off with that shit.

The idea of communism is to even the playing field by equalizing everything and having the government control industry and business. This requires a shit ton of government bueacracy. As a result you end up just trading one master for a VERY totalitarian one. Instead of more people earning things mostly by mericratic means (most of the time *cough* jews *cough*). In a world of infinite resources that might work but If that were the case why bother with communism at all?

Capitalism works great for economy's and healthy economy means comfortable living in a harsh world. The my personal beef is it does nothing to address moral issues but is generally flexible enough to allow most things to be implemented without changing it to much unlike communism.

Karl Marx proved to be a retard with pipe dream fantasies of a utopia that defies personal reward for some sort of pat on the back helping the dregs of your society breed more.

>everyone gets the same amount of money
fuck off, i refuse to continue being a pleb
pic related is what i want in the future and communism is what would prevent me from acquiring such luxury

>humanity only got as far as we have because we're social creatures that form bonds and groups with each other to help elevate the species as a whole
>not selfless

Just because people today are dicks doesn't mean humanity as a whole are all just moments away from stabbing each other in the back for no reason.

>And China is a communist country and the next superpower.

>why should it matter
Because communism was created in order to recreate the Jewish rabbinical societies that degraded during the Enlightenment Era when Rabbis like Marx's father lost their power. Marx created Communism in order to manipulate the weak and poor to overthrow the current Zeitgeist of that society in order to empower the Rabbi (mainly Jews but generally the head of state) again. This is why the Hegelian dialectic works so well with Marx and why Marx openly states that humans and their rights dont exist in his response to the Theses of Fuerbach; as when the proletariat is used, it is disposed of like the kulaks in CCCP and the previous dynasty of Rabbinical society is re-established through violent revolution

>HOW it goes against human nature
I am by NATURE greedy and I'm not going to share with you faggot

Also, China is nearly entirely supported by Hong Kong which is a laissez-faire economy surrounded by a controlled market that was created when communism was relaxed in China in the '90's after constant failure to produce economic growth

money doesnt circulate.economy crashes.crisis.famine.millions dead.

If you haven't noticed we fight all the time. Just face it. In order to implement communism it requires extreme bueacracy and force that often times purges decent erstwhile under the whims of a different master. The only reason to implement communism is if YOU are the master and you have such little disregard for human life that you are willing to genocide your own countrymen.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunism

Is that why natural African tribes back in the precolonial days lived in constant genocidal warfare? How about the natives of north america who nigh wiped each other out every other year and were so effective that most of the US was inhabited by the 1650's?
Man is tribal and violent.

Starvation
Deaths
Failing everytime

Read pic related then kill yourself.

It's human nature to be inquisitive and try things out.
But something about communism makes it impossible to ever really try.

It doesn't account for greed and the human need for societal structure. Someone will always want more. People want the ability to climb the hierarchy

>People are not equal
>Everyone is equal

>People want to be on top
>Everyone is equal.

>Shut up and dig you stupid undedicated fuck.

Dude... China is a totalitarian shit hole. They have Google blocked

From the works of Karl Marx
>Communism was the natural state of man a white ago
>civilization created classes and class warfare
>we should return to communism
Except for communism was never actually a thing in the ancient or pre history world.

I found the idealist. Stop chasing the pipe dream kiddo

>Prosperous nation's
It's like you're not even trying

Killing food makes it its property of Hunter. It is to the receivers wanting what to do with it. Doesn't inherently belong to everyone, they all want to survive themselves. They can trade their earned property after excess because they agree humans can agree on this ingrained societal construct after generations.

dude

Communism is an ideal system for an ideal society.
It requires people who are willing to work for the benefit of the whole group.
People aren't willing to do that. They will get up every day at 7 because they'll get paid for it, but not because it's beneficial to other people.

>not against human nature
>abolishes private property

I see you're a smart one

>with a foregone conclusion
jewish science™

Communism is an utopian idea, far away from reality. But even if the very naively positive image of humankind was true it wouldn't work, since it's impossible to make everyone equal.
Even if humans were truly angels there would be some envy arising towards the ones who are "more equal".

They literally always explain why it is against human nature. Equity is not the natural state of humans, building a society which relies on everyone in this system being equitable is fundamentally flawed. This is the exact same problem pure ancaps have. Both have a utopian vision of how people will act.
We have literally only maintained peace since WWII because of the threat of mutual annihilation, and even then there is constant bloody conflict where mutual annihilation isn't guaranteed.

It is unfortunate that you weren't taught to think. Your indoctrination is complete.

>arbitrarily set a limit to how wealthy each individual can get
>great entrepreneurs are now insanely limited
>most efficient producers of goods in your society aren't allowed to realize their potential
>requires huge government (non-productive workers) and absolute state power to achieve this mindblowing feat

how is this an issue with pure ancaps?

its goes against incentive and the lower time preference positive feedback loops becoming a huge de-civilizing force.

Its also fundamentally flawed because its based on faulty propositions.

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nature is about optimization, optimization leads to stronger or better life, communism is a form of distribution, capitalism is a form of optimization

we need more helicopters

communism is far worse because when you decide that everyone owns everything what you're really saying is that the access to material wealth is governed by political/social hierarchy, and that is far worse than what capitalism is where hierarchy is determined by how much value you can create for society.

Talent + hardwork = progress
Conformism + lazyness = regresion

Guess which values are promoted by which ideology?
Imagine the world is communist
Herbert Von Braun and Alexander Fleming would be growing potatoes instead of rockets and penicilin

capitalism is the jew's biggest weapon, the Cold War was civil war.
That being said Soviet Union was great

>"more equal"

Corruption =/= socialism

>people believe this
just read what was passed as an economics report in the USSR

watch your commie dreams crumble to shit

when you make something you feel a connection to it and people like to succeed and feel like they've accomplished things

people are social and want to be part of a community or a society but they also want privacy and the ability to live their lives the way they would want without having to share with other people who are not their family etc

communism doesn't make sense cause its like you're driving down the road and you see a tractor in a field so you get out and get into the tractor and start driving away because possession doesn't exist and you're literally seizing the means of production