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Anyone who says you can't be gay and christian is a moron.
You can kill people for their skin colour and still be christian. It might not be a very christian thing to do, but that's aside the point. God doesn't kick people out of his club for making mistakes

NO YOU FUCKING CANT REEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING QUEERS GTFO

The yellow sheep is retarded.
This is exactly the kind of crap that resulted in the CoE turning into a big fuckfest. All they teach is god is a god of love and nothing about his rules or plans for humanity

>God doesn't kick people out of his club for making mistakes

God does whatever we collectively agree he does.

What? We follow God's rules, he doesn't follow ours.

Try again Cristo-fags
Meet the new trifecta
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You can forgive someone for being gay and still welcome them in church, but that doesn't mean homosexuality isn't a sin. Love the sinner, hate the sin. No man is without sin.

what a fucking retarded post

Op is a faggot :D

Why?
See

You CAN be gay and Christian, but:
>you can't take part in homosexual acts
>you can't be in a homosexual relationship
>you can't be trans etc.
>you shouldn't be a priest

Being Christian means being "Christ-like"

If you do stuff that isn't following the Jesus example, you're not a Christian

I mean, you CAN do all that stuff... You shouldn't though.

Nope. We make guesses at what God wants and then do so. Typically, these guesses exhibit significant self-interest and inconsistency. We have a rudimentary guide, but we've been playing the same game of telephone with it for 2000 years.

God is what we make Him to be.

There is literally no person alive without sin. If humans could be sinless, we wouldn't need Christ.

In your opinion, user.

heresy >:(

There's a big difference between someone who is only a churchman and somebody who goes all the way and is a Christian, user.

Being in a constant state of sin makes you excommunicated.
For example, fapping to porn is a sin that only lasts a while, but being a porn producer is a constant state of sin.

we dont need him either way

You cna be homosexual and be Christian. You must live a life of chastity, and be aware you got a moral and ethical disorder which could damn you to Hell if you don't keep it in check.
I suffered from same sex attraction in the past, but I kept learning about it and slowly accepting it while not perpetrating it.

Exactly! It is a challenge, but it is possible; again, chastity and acceptance of our miseries is part of the path to our Salvation.

>Christians are now faggors
what else is new?

Accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour is the necessary and sufficient condition for being saved. I'd essentially class faith in Christ as making one a Christian.
If you insist that one must live life as "Christ-like" as necessary for being Christian, then no man is Christian.

But where is the black and the brown sheep?

You can lose your salvation if there is not change in your life after you "convert"

You cannot convert and then lead a life of unrepentant sin and expect to be saved

Faith is so powerful, we'd be remiss not to expect infidels to frequently try and subvert it, user.

We disagree on a fairly fundamental theological principle then

>God doesn't kick people out of his club for making mistakes

>21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’…

mass shooter in the making

>I suffered from same sex attraction in the past, but I kept learning about it and slowly accepting it while not perpetrating it.
This along with other posts. I acted upon mine for 6 months and a couple encounters prior to that relationship, but screw all that. I still have yet to accept Jesus and am in the world living in sin, but at least there's that, I suppose.

>If you insist that one must live life as "Christ-like" as necessary for being Christian, then no man is Christian.

We are called to do so. Or I don't know what they teach in YOUR Church, but I am a Catholic and we are literally called to live like Christ, accounting for the particular circumstances of our lives, of course. And some of us succeed. These are the saints, whom we ask for help and who come to us in our moments of need, by the grace of God.

You're forgetting the part where Christ died for all of our sins past, present, and future and ensured salvation for us if we accept him as our Lord and Saviour

I don't want to get into an argument over this but I think the Catholic doctrine of papal infallibility changes our perspectives considerably on how we just someone to be living life as Christ-like and how we can ultimately measure/judge that as humans

>You can be both!
No you can't.
And anybody who says you can is a heretic and you know what should be done with heretics.

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>sheep
How appropriate.

boy, everyone is a heretic except me

if you think that way , it will be you who will be saying lord lord , jesus died and became the sacrificial lamb nothing more nothing less. john baptisms was for washing of sins do you think people went there everyday?,

The bible is pretty clear that works don't matter. You can fuck all the men you want and as long as Jesus is your savior you are fine. Same thing with murdering, theft, rape, etc. For all have fallen short of the glory of god.

I'm not saying it's ok to flaunt Christ's sacrifice. I don't think that's a good thing to do and seems to me to be throwing his sacrifice back in his face. However, that being the case is irrelevant to whether or not you're saved.

That's just giant bullshit.

BURN THE HERETIC! PURGE THE UNCLEAN!

>We make guesses
>what is the bible

>God is what we make Him to be.
get behind me, satan

Also all theistic religions are by definition Satan worshipers. You don't need Jesus to deliver you from lack of morality. Morality is a natural occurrence. You unbalance the equation by adding in comparing skydaddies.

Ah ah, nah! I found peace in the Lord after years of despair.

We all take time to get cured. I hope you'll find God, user.

People like to cherry pick Bible verses without ever referring to the context in which they appear. If you take it one verse at a time you can probably twist it to mean anything to anyone.

I believe in Christ and the Bible... and I am afraid because of the sins that I do. If I were in the gay community, I would treat that aspect of my life the way that I treat pornography...e.g., every time I sin, I would confess, repent, and try to change by attempting not to do that sin again.

Trying to convince yourself that your sins are fine in God's eyes is a dangerous game, I think, and one that I try to be aware of preventing myself from playing.

God speed all ye believing anons.

For posterity, do you believe in the Holy Trinity or are you a non-trinitarian?

>Morality is ingrained
>Africans killed each other for millenia and when anybody showed up that would buy their prisoners they all turned slavers.

I mean it's all there user. Embrace the light of God or become Africa.

>Morality is a natural occurrence
Not this one again...

Why would God make me gay if he hates gay people? does he really expect me to live sexless and loveless the rest of my life? What kind of God is that?

>The bible is pretty clear that works don't matter.
>what is "faith without works is dead"
>The bible is pretty clear that works don't matter.
if jesus is your savior, you won't, therefore you can't.

Kek, do you seriously tell the priest every time time you fapped?
>"I'm so sorry father, it happened again, I couldn't help it, somebody posted a crossthread link to /trash/ and I saw a picture of rainbow dash. I couldn't help myself, I was possessed by the devil himself.

He didn't make you gay.
You became a faggot on your own volition.
Maybe lack of a proper father figure.
But only the church can save you.

I'm not a non-trinitarian.

>picking and choosing the vaguest bible verses you can find
Now this is some top tier jewry, who the fuck published this drivel?

he didn't, idiot. you are mentally ill.

How did you determine that God is responsible for you being gay? The whole "Born this way" is a BS myth

>sexless and loveless
Aha, who said that? God doesn't necessarily want either of those things for you. It's unfortunate that you're having difficulties with normal sexual attraction, but that doesn't mean you can't resolve them.

ive been gay since i could remember also no one thats gay has ever become straight. thats like trying to make straight people gay. youd never like to bury your dick into a mans asshole no matter how many times someone prayed for it.

Life is a test you are gay you fail when you fuck man ass, some other people are psychopaths they fail when they kill . everyone has his bagage in this test

>You can fuck all the men you want and as long as Jesus is your savior you are fine.
if jesus is your savior, you won't, therefore you can't.

Galatians 5:21

>Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Hell is for ever!

another one in the list of garbage made up gods

>africans
>believing any made up shit you tell them
I didn't say people weren't superstitious. Where do you think religion came from?

>no one thats gay has ever become straight.
The Ancients both Roman and Greek fucked men like nobody's business but when it was time settled down and had children and stable families.

You're just brainwashed.

varg was right

What sect might I ask?
I'm Christedelphian myself.

Our ecclesias really aren't sure on how to handle OP's eventuality, we've been lucky enough through now for it not to have come up.

I'm still not sure how we'd handle it, conversion therapy would be a non-starter and turfing someone out seems a little overbearing, but certainly better than forcing them to be something they aren't.

God doesn't exist sweet pea.

I'm not a Catholic, so no, but I do confess it to God. There is only one mediator between God and man, the MAN CHRIST JESUS.

Fapping to porn is basically fornication. The problem today is that every man is tempted by the ability to fornicate essentially at every hour of every day, so it's hard to resist. It's no less of a sin because it's on a screen though.

great so being gay is something i cant change nor is it my fault im glad we agree
been gay since i can remember existing so basically born gay. and how many gay people actually become straight? none its all repression
and straight people commit fornication, adultery, lust etc. i fail to see how gayness is a worse sin

don't follow any of the rules of the bible, god created you with the urge to sin so obviously it's okay for you to do so and he forgives everything which means it's okay to do everything

A lot of homosexuals are victims of childhood sexual abuse. I don't want to get too Freudian but that often also gets repressed.
Not saying that's specifically the case for you, but it's worth considering if you want to introspect/talk to a therapist about it more

So is superstition ingrained?
Is morality too?
Both?
Choose please. I don't know where you stand.

thats called being bisexual, thats not everyone

what about paedophiles priests?

>been gay since i can remember existing so basically born gay
"Basically" isn't good enough. Your nature is to be straight, trying to brainwash yourself into thinking that you were born with a wire-crossed isn't helping yourself
> and how many gay people actually become straight?
Quite a lot, actually

This meme is false.
Only degenerate urbanite wealthy romans did this in the peaceful periods of Rome. With greeks they had romantic love with other men but not buttsex. Some city states practiced pederasty though.

gay=/=pedophilia
even some straight people are pedos

Yes everyone is superstitious without even knowing it. Anyone will think advanced science is magic.

Paedophilia is sexual deviance in the same way that homosexuality is.

>You can be on the straight and narrow whilst being a paedophile
I don't think you'd quite understand how this works user...

He didn't make you gay, trust me. From my earliest memories I was attractged to the same sex more than the opposite. I've come to find out that, no, it wasn't God, but I got caught in the snares of the devil, what have you. It's easy to whisper into the ears of children and influence them, as they're little clean slates. I continued on that sin, which is a huge abomination and spit in the face of Him. Yes, we all sin and that is a sin, all sins are more or less equal, but to taint the natural order of penis in vagina is pretty bad.

Being gay in a consening relationship doesnt hurt anyone though stop acting like its the same as pedophilia where innocent children are hurt

You are a sick sick puppy annon.

At the churches i've been to they just don't allow faggots to be members because they are actively sinning.

>i fail to see how gayness is a worse sin

Who the fuck is even talking about a worse sin ? there is no worse sin for god.

James 2:10
>For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

I didn't say they were the same, I said they were both sexual deviance.

Rand Paul and Bernie Sander might still be controlled opposition, do not let them fool you this easily.

Hmm, admirable response. I like Christfriends. They're not degenerate

Prove how being in a consenting faithful loving gay relationship where you mind your own business hurts or harms anyone. Every other sin involves some harm on someone else in some way or yourself. This one doesnt.

Isn't bible written by alchoholic street shoepolisher

>Fapping to porn is basically fornication. The problem today is that every man is tempted by the ability to fornicate essentially at every hour of every day, so it's hard to resist. It's no less of a sin because it's on a screen though.
i always think of the sermon when the need for porn comes


>27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

>This badly wanting to belong to a group of people believing in an invisible skyguy based on 1000 year old ramblings of a bunch of sandniggers that also hate your guts.

First of all, the whole "consenting faithful loving gay relationship" thing is close to a myth. There are very few gays that are capable of this in any real capacity and even less that are capable of it in the long term. Your Hollywood fantasy films of the two mentally robust gay dads are just fantasy films.

Secondly, apart from these fringe cases of seemingly functional gay couples, people are hurt. Do you think the lifestyles undertaken by the gay priders are conducive to a healthy society? That's not to mention the hurt it causes God to see people flaunting his gift of life with decadence.

If something is good, god did it, if something is bad, person did it. God controls everything, but doesn't control bad stuff. It's just bullshit to make you sleep better at night

So many words but nothing that actually proves your point except strawmen.

You're hurt already