>based people >traditional >Free housing,education,healthcare etc >0% unemploeyment >no degenerates(gays etc) allowed >no crime at all.Literally 0 criminal activity >only acceptable religion is Christianity >biggest army in the world What if North Korea is a true socialist utopia and just our government's are lying about them?
I honestly believe that at least 70-80% of the population is happy.Maybe they are happy because they don't know about the western way of life but they still happy even if it's by propaganda
Every who went there talking about a paradise that everything is working right
Bruh North Korea is worse than my fucking sub country...
Liam Hughes
sure they're lied about (somewhat, standard propaganda), but none of what you listed sounds utopian
Camden Howard
heh..no
Zachary Murphy
North Korea has done nothing wrong. Don't like libertarian kikes convince you otherwise OP. They also protect the purity of the North Korean race. youtube.com/watch?v=og43-7QUphw
Nathaniel Lee
lol..If you get a chance you should talk to a defector. Get your head straight on the topic
Ayden Campbell
>defector
You mean a traitor?Yeah very reliable source
Leo Ortiz
>literally 1984 IRL yay lol
Connor Evans
better this
Tyler Edwards
>true socialist utopia
There is no such thing. Socialism only brings propaganda, empty bellies, and it always ends with a great,big pile of skulls.
Jackson Bailey
than this
Connor Gonzalez
10-4
Carter Davis
we're under surveillance here, it's pretty much 1984 everywhere
Cooper Cruz
all countries have their issues, and communist ones are actively crushed by capitalist societies
also the reason so many people are executed in those countries are the same reasons any country ends up killing people in the years following a revolution
capitalism is destructive too, all systems of government are because people are and so is power
Leo Rivera
O ya definitely the best utopic country around the world user! I suggest you visit it! If your lucky you may receive a propaganda poster and brain damage! See you on the news user!
Blake Walker
>USA = North Korea Come on man
Hunter Taylor
>implying that retard didnt deserved it
NK is a place where Laws are working.Stealing is for niggers.Steal and you will be treated like one
>What if North Korea is a true socialist utopia and just our government's are lying about them? >General distrust for the government >Lets be more like North Korea, their government is good!
I don't understand your approach to life friendo, is the flag a meme?
Dylan Phillips
North Korea is a shithole and even the communists know that
The Stalinist idea of "state in one country" is retarded and unsustainable. Their small country can't produce everything they need and famines are common (just like they were in USSR during Stalin)
Socialism works only if more countries adopt it and work together. Isolating yourself from the world destroys the economy
Compare that to Yugoslavia, one of rare open "Trotskyist" socialist countries where the economy actually grew and trade was encouraged by the state
Joseph Clark
>I know that this is the case because of MY FEELINGS
lmfao
Chase Kelly
I knew you'd do it for me, robonorge.
Tyler Cox
NK isn't socialism. it's de facto absolute monarchy desu. user kun
Owen Martin
>capitalism is destructive too, all systems of government are because people are and so is power
Look guys, another filthy Fabian. Both sides are bad so lets go commie.....its not like its been tried before and failed.
Fucking Fabian Faggots, the whole lot of you western communists.
Liam Nelson
>Yugoslavia was Trotskyist >Internationalists are this fucking delusional Dude, they protected their nation from both the soviet bloc and the west. They were far from being Trotscum. (unlike you probably),
Jordan Gonzalez
well... to be honest i think all systems of government are corrupt and kill massive amounts of people (in their own country and others(
capitalism shouldn't stay in place just because it exists large scale however, and there are many things in communist societies i disagree with too
governments are just man made systems, all of them have flaws and eventually become corrupt
people just feel like capitalism is the best option because through expansion and war it's how a lot of places work and they're used to it + anti other forms of government propoganda
if most of the countries in the world were communist and capitalism was in a limited amount of countries then anyone born in a communist country would likely think their government was superior
it's human nature and governments reinforce those ideas through propaganda and indoctrination, and people spend their entire childhoods being educated to be a functioning part of said system to keep it going regardless of whether or not it's ultimately beneficial
it's all a matter of power and control of the few over the many and that's what it always breaks down into
Angel Richardson
)* propaganda*
Connor Smith
>if most of the countries in the world were communist and capitalism was in a limited amount of countries then anyone born in a communist country would likely think their government was superior
Oh shit, I'm talking to a kid who's not old enough to know anyone who was raised in the Soviet Block. You see, way back in the last century about 1/3 of the world DID have Communist governments and they all fell flat on their faces when they ran out of other people's money to spend.
You would be hard pressed to find anyone over 40 in those countries who wouldn't call you out on thinking communism ever helps anyone but the parasites at the top.
Christopher Howard
at none of those points in time were most of the other countries in the world communist
there's always been issues with communism that are directly caused by capitalism, you can't judge by that
i was speaking hypothetically and saying if most countries in the world were communist all at the same time then capitalism would be what was foreign and wrong to people
dominant systems of government push other systems down, that just happens, it's not even necessarily a matter of what's best
regardless that doesn't mean that's the way the world has to work
Leo Bennett
>communism doesn't work, look at all the famished people >north korea is utopia >nevermind the great famine of the 90s >nevermind the fact that if you get caught leaving, your entire bloodline will be killed >nevermind that there is 0 freedom dumbass nazi
William Robinson
Truth: North Korea is actually a woke ass worker's paradise that could absolutely stomp the US into submission if they wanted to - hence why the USA has been too pussy to attack them for half a century. The booj media is just lying to us.
David Cox
>that pic There are some NK defectors that went back. Though that shows more about how intense communist brainwashing is than anything.
After reading up on MK ULTRA I realized that the CIA was probably doing the same or possibly less human experimentation than the soviets.
Nathan Moore
>>only acceptable religion is Christianity
kek
Jayden Cook
its interesting that all NK refugees say "we were brainwashed but happy". perception is truly the reality.
i respect NK as a country, hope they keep their sovereignty for a long long time
Easton James
>at none of those points in time were most of the other countries in the world communist >there's always been issues with communism that are directly caused by capitalism, you can't judge by that
There are no problems that communist countries have that aren't directly caused by an ideology that ignores every human instinct in favor of the lie they wish to believe.
Karl Marx was a parasite who lived on his Daddy's dime his whole life & conned a bunch utopian fools into thinking that his lifestyle could work for an actual country.
And as for your argument that the big, bad capitalists ganged up on the poor, outnumbered communists.....look at pic related and be called out again on your bullshit.
Do you even know that you're being a Fabian, child??? I've punched holes in these same arguments since the '80s, but I guess the crap they teach you at college hasn't changed since then either...
Brayden Hill
also NK people work like animals else they get shot, SK people work like animals else they feel bad.
not sure which one is better
Grayson Taylor
>Finland >Alaska >Denmark >Commonwealth of communist nations
Whoever made this map is a fucking idiot
Luis Taylor
>Free housing,education,healthcare etc Oh they're paying for it. It ain't free. Nothing's free.
Jeremiah Williams
50 percent of defectors actually go back to the North, and the rest still identify strongly with the North. True korea is not that bad.
Jackson Jenkins
>PRP Fucking disgusting
Isaiah Thomas
GRRRRR, looking at that map now & see that they painted our fair Alaska in that commie Red & it pisses me off....Seward paid top dollar to the Russians so its our clay now
Benjamin Brooks
When they look out their high rise apartment they must forget for a brief moment they and everyone one they know is starving.
Nicholas Peterson
Meant to quote
Elijah Perry
>Whoever made this map is a fucking idiot
Yeah, my guess is they were using the Soviet land claims from the 50's seeing the Finns & Alaska on there....Soviets claimed that Russian America was sold off by the Tsars Illegally and should still be theirs.
Ethan Long
Fuck commies
Bentley Morris
all systems of government punish the masses for ideology
i said nothing about marx or his ideologies (all ideologies are potentially harmful btw)
that's a map of large areas under authoritarian governments, the size of an empire isn't all of its power
i'm not a child, and i never suggested either system was a good one either
capitalism is highly flawed, loaded in corruption, and limits people heavily while allowing small groups of people huge amounts of control
if you noticed, i never mentioned a communist country i thought was run properly either
all systems of government instill ways of life that go against human nature and limit freedom, it's the nature of civilization
