Welcome to /cm/ - Communism and Marxism
Facts:
There was absolutely no unemployment in the whole of the USSR
>But people had no food and had to wait in lines!! hurr durr!
Yes, but at least we had lines to provide food for people. The great system covered every citizen and provided equality
Feel free to ask or discuss about the superiority of communism
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We need a vanguard party
>muh equality
The elite rule communist society even more than they rule capitalist society. There will always be a wealthy elite, but in communism they are the only ones with wealth at all.
That's what you think, but in the USSR everyone was indeed equal.
That what you think is simply western capitalist propaganda.
Fallacious statement right there, we will not tolerate corruption,maybe you think everyone is corrupted like you are?
>LARPS as Commie
>Worships literal Corporotocracy that is the EU
Riiiiiiight OP, we TOTALLY believe you
why not defend anarcho-primitivism while you're at it
all commies deserve to be thrown from an helicopter
sage
>reddit tier b8
sage
Greetings my comrades
Right you little commie faggot
Explain to me why every system that has operated on your mentally retarded and archaic ideology reeks corruption and totalitarianism and fails?
>There was absolutely no unemployment in the whole of the USSR
Because being unemployed was illegal
Greetings
Greetings Commie faggot, how is your brain damaged ideology doing?
Western propaganda, you idiot!
It worked though!
Communist governments are some of the most corrupt pieces of trash ever, and you have the audacity to claim that you "don't tolerate corruption"?
How is is bait in any way?
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WESTERN PROPAGANDA
>not an argument
>The EU is a fascist system that was Hitler's dream
>Cucked
Western capitalist governments are way more corrupt, they just hide everything they do with their money
sigh
>There was absolutely no unemployment in the whole of the USSR
can't be unemployed if you're dead
no it didn't
holy shit how are people even thinking of coming up with such retarded baits
gas commies
sage the fucking thread
LARP LARP LARP
>keep repeating commie talking points
>western propaganda
Dismissing every major flaw in your ideology as "western propaganda" is just another indicator of your cognitive dissonance.
The EU is a great globalist and communist system build to help small nations
You're just trying to bait me
Can't tell if this was supposed to insult us or not, it's still funny regardless. It has the potential of being a dank commie meme.
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This is one of the main flaws with communism. The entire system is built so that the small and weak can leech off of the strong.
oh wait republican as in US Republican party, im a dumbass
Not an argument.
Because every human is equal
>looks at the flag
>not surprised
>cognitive dissonance
>Because every human is equal
Not even close.
Okay, anti-communists of Sup Forums. Tell me what you understand the following terms to mean.
Capitalism:
Socialism:
Communism:
Human nature:
If every human is truly equal like you say, then why are some people smarter or stronger than others? Why do some have more capacity for manual labor while others are built for more mentally-demanding jobs?
>retarded religious anti-communist faggot
>looks at flag
huh
you were given the gift of communism and refused it. the only reason you are so successful now is because the soviets shot down all the fascists in your country in the 50s
It means that his argument causes conflict in your perceptions on certain subjects, and thus you dismiss it without addressing it.
It's called having your head up your ass.
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die
sage thread
Brushing off any criticism of your ideology as "Western propaganda" is exactly what cognitive dissonance is. You refuse to accept criticism and go so far as to completely ignore it by providing an excuse such as "Western propaganda".
Communism completely BTFOs capitalism on K:D ratio
When you take into account deaths of innocent civilians...
You're right capitalism has got us beat there.
Much like its supporters; communism doesn't work.
>It was never tried before.
>USSR.
>That wasn't lee communism(TM)
Your kind just doesn't like working, or learning.
Pity.
>Brushing off any criticism of your ideology as "Western propaganda" is exactly what cognitive dissonance is.
Lol, no. That user you were talking to didn't contradict himself. And it is western propaganda because western propaganda wants to convince you that because some shitty regimes are failing and/or corrupt, we shouldn't take examples from it. Therefore, we shouldn't be communists or live in a communist society.
What ever happened to resetting the system over and over again? If something fails, you can always try it again. It isn't the system itself to blame.
Look at this nerd lmao
Why don't commies go and prevent those deaths?
>Blames African tier retardation on just the social economics, and not on the people it self.
It's always so funny how you can be able to flip strawmans :^)
I like how your reply had absolutely nothing to do with his post.
>be commie
>call someone faggot
>go back giggling to your trans grandma's basement to plan your gayvolution
We had communism for about 50yrs. Now Poland is called mexico of Europe.
>we will not tolerate corruption
There are still communist countries about. Why not move to Venezuela, Cuba, or North Korea?
>"..we will not tolerate corruption..."
Dear God, you guys are insane. Your model of production and ethics is heavily flawed. The key hyphotesis is false. We are not equal and we are never gonna be equal. The human race organise themselves in hierarchical structures and fight for better places in the pyramid. We need hierarchy as a evolutionary component of society. International Socialism failed and it will fail again if tried. Your system went through the mecanism of selection and was obliterated. National Socialism is the only socialism that can work today. We are at the age of steel and transistors.
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Under Communism/Socialism, everyone would be treated equally. So there would be no need for BLM or similar groups as they would have nothing to campaign for.
Yet socialism and communism always fails.
>you can always try the system again, it's not like the system itself is flawed
I'm pretty sure you are LARPing now.
leftypol out of the woodworks it seems
Why would I want equality when I'm better than someone else?
Communism is only superior for genocidal brutality.
>Not smart enough to can into comprehensive reading.
Thanks for the confirmation.
>I like how your reply had absolutely nothing to do with his post.
You like communism, you think it's better than capitalism, yet communism never works out; thus it's the inferior social economic system.
Glad to have that cleared up for you.
Kekistan cancer is not permitted
We're trying. We're trying hard.
Building worldwide communism to prevent those deaths is what we do erry day.
You're deluded, an authoritarian oppressive government is always corrupt and always tyrannical, even the communist ones.
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War against the communist menace is glorious in the eyes of God
You have some impressive skill at making autistic rants that never even relate to the posts they reply to.
you misspelled totalitarian indoctrination body serving a narrow clique of (((liberators))) and working in unison towards an inhumanely authoritarian regime while being utterly corrupt and living by the old adage: quid licet Iovi non licet bovi
>Why would I want equality when I'm better than someone else?
You're trying to make other people do it instead of doing something yourself?
How many capitalist states have killed off 25% of their population?
>b-but not real communism
>e-equality for all
>c-communists don't kill people
The mental retardation of these people is hilarious. Pic related is what we should be doing to communists
beat me to it so I will post something different
>commie calling anyone else autistic
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And you have no talent at all.
Especially reading comprehension or critical thinking seems to be lacking with you.
Good luck with that desu.
>implying communism isn't the worst cancer every created in human history.
>There was absolutely no unemployment in the whole of the USSR
Pretty easy to keep down unemployment when Article 58 makes literally everything a potential crime and excess labor supply can be shipped off to forced labor camps.
You are an imbecile. Capitalism is a model of production based on freedom of association and mercantile ethics. There are dozens of socialist movements, all with their own peculiarities dipshit! Socialism is the violation of freedom in persuit of equality and equity. Communism is also a diffuse movement. Marxist communism is total freedom while in equity( utopian pile of shit). The human nature debate is complex and generally based on arguments of autority.
Tankies need to be euthanized
NO U: the post.
Not LARPing. Ask any other communist, and they'll tell you the same thing.
No I'm trying to build communism.
Was Pol Pot backed by the CIA? Oh yes.
>Jordan Peterson calling anyone autistic
That nigga has it bad.
simple question are you entitle to the product of a noncombatant's labor in the absence of their consent? YES OR NO?
I see, so you don't know.
Also gotta lel at this bit
>Marxist communism
>utopian
If the system itself isn't flawed, then why do capitalist governments have such a higher rate of success compared to communist ones. Or is this just another """""coincidence"""" where communist governments failed miserably while capitalist ones succeeded?
>Ask any other communist, and they'll tell you the same thing.
>I'm indoctrinated just like all of my comrades; we all say the same thing, just as we were told.
No shit, and Ftfy.
>no rebuttal for Dr. Peterson
Not that modern day communists are capable of rational/critical thinking. It's almost as if it needs to be implemented so that millions of you die again for you to wake up, but that probably wouldn't sway someone with such deeply seated mental issues.
What do noncombatants have to do with it?
-Means to create wealth without an oppressive state
-Reliance and slavery to an oppressive state
-Full state control and oppression over the individual
-Something that causes communism to fail
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>Communism is superior to capitaism in any way
Except basic literacy apparently.
It's just Western propoganda! ALL communist countries were HEAVENLY until the subversive west ruined them.
Noncombatants are the majority of a modern country's population dipshit.
I didn't watch the video. I'm just saying, if anyone has got autism it is him.
Doesn't mean Pol's policies weren't the purest form of socialism in action
Nice strawman. Pic related, how do you like my strawman?
>b-but not real communism
Yeah, because there's literally no country in existence that has a communist government. China, Cuba, Laos and Vietnam are all socialist. Try again.
Yeah but I still don't understand how it's pertinent to the question.
Would he have expected a different answer if it was about a soldiers labour?
Pol Pot was ANPRIM.
that wasn't the question, by "noncombatants" I mean people who haven't violated the non aggression principle
I see. In that case no but can you elaborate on what you would consider "consent"?
>there's literally no country in existence that has a communist government.
Because it doesn't work.
Seems logical enough.
HELLO
by consent, I mean the willingness to give you what they've made
Well, what else do you want me to tell you? If I say something, it'll always be: well if A, B, C is wrong, then B is correct.