Why were Greeks all Gay and Shit?

Why were the ancient Greeks pedophiles and pederasts? I ask this in genuine curiosity and good faith, on why Greeks thought a 54 year old man fucking his 11 year old nephew was good for his ethical foundation growth. (they always spun it as, learning from your elders by getting fucked in the ass.)
Not only was this not fringe, it was basically like the modern day pizzagate shit where if you are expected to become powerful, you MUST fuck little boys. This is beyond comprehension to me.

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Bump because I have always been interested in the same.

It's pretty fucking weird

Mercury in the water, probably.

It makes perfect sense. What better way to discipline a crappy teen boy than to rape his pooper

because muh dick and tight buttholes you dumb fuck

yes, b/c this is why australians have the superb reputation around here that that they do.

they didn't. most looked down on it as a "vice." The greeks also codified the "sex should be solely for procreation purposes in missionary position only" usually attributed to chrisitians (Stoicism). It was tolerated b/c greeks, in general, had a 3rd world interpretation of sex: you lost face only if you were being penetrated. They were much more concerned with creating stable families to take care of the old as well as the young.

Garbage like this is why I'm more interested in the Romans, especially the Late Roman period, through which the Empire (and then the Western and Eastern Empires) had mostly embraced Christianity.

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what was the usual lubs back then?

They weren't gay, they just hated women so much they would often fuck men and leave women just for procreation.

Typical pagans

it wasnt all that common

Oil.

Did they have buttplugs?
I know they had dildos

Classical Greece wasn't as sleek and shiny as it is in the movies, you retard. It was ancient times. People were bored and vicious and depraved. Also, no moralfags were going around saying "it's wrong for you to put your dick in that little faggot's asshole". And if someone tried to do that, he would probably get laughed at and raped.

Not sure dude.

Pretty much this probably.

I think it was mostly a power thing. To toughen you up or something.

Their philosophy was probably "If you can take an 8 incher up the ass, fighting in battle won't seem that bad in comparison."

the Spartans required men have sex with one another - wetern civ teacher told us that in uni - muh dick and tight ass hole - goddamn that is just fucking sick - shit comes out of that hole - I will never understand what the big attraction is - these guys must have tiny dicks? When it guys cross the line into deviant sex , they literally cannot enjoy normal sex - porn has proven that point - it seems people are trying to normalize pedophilia now in this time -an user wrote this about anal sex and I copied it because it talks about medical repercussions - imagine a childs butt hole and colon
The rectum and colon was not designed as a sexual orifice. The sensation is similar to self-harm: some folks feel enjoyment from being harmed - it's a mental illness problem.

The walls of the rectum are thin and less ductile than a vagina is. The vagina was designed for a hard pounding; the rectum is designed for pushing out pre-mucus coated feces. Any sort of thrusting into it will tear the walls - even with lube. And to make matters worse, semen has autoimmune inhibitors in it (to get around the woman's high concentration if immunities in the vagina) and those inhibitors work anywhere semen lands. So, the rectum's immunitysystem gets shut off and pathogens run rampant. One reason why homosexuals have a high STI infection rate.

I can't tell you guys how many folks, men and women alike, show up at the ED with torn apart rectums, bleeding and pooping all over the beds, crying and weeping from the pain when whatever drug or how much alcohol that was numbing the pain of it wears off.

And the surgery to repair it is terrible: in the worst cases, they have to remove the entire rectum and install a colostomy valve. Diet is ruined forever at that point; very controlled and with plenty of stool softeners.

Seriously, it's just not worth it. Treat your anus, rectum and colon like they require.

>"If you can take an 8 incher up the ass, fighting in battle won't seem that bad in comparison."
flawless logic

You already explained why:

Boys gained knowledge and connections by letting older men fuck them in their boipussy.

Because they barely had shit to do

2/10 projecting your personal issues onto others is the acme of propaganda

because little brown girls(male) are the best

Homosecuality is only really bad today because it is normalized and rampant. These elite men would get together for "symposiums" talk philosophy and science then as a break fuck young tight boipussy, it was just normal and about dominance there was no such thing as "homosexuality" if anything Christians had a more primitive idea of sex and saw it as 2 demensional when everything should be looked at 3 dimensional, Women are for procreation and that should be priority, young tight effeminate beta's who will create weak offspring must be prevented from pro-creating and that can be done by nature or making them sissies for alpha cock.

The only reason a lot of you guys hate the concept is because you were raised differently as well the SJW's are so gong-ho on sucking cock because they believe that doing it is righteous when it isn't. If it was banned entirely I wouldn't care, people would still do it, I'm not really interested in it but others are as long as they don't advertise it or force it on kids I don't care.

tl;dr it was normal, Christianity demonized it because they were ignorant of the reasons.

Lol

>Projecting this hard

>They weren't gay, they just hated women so much they would often fuck men and leave women just for procreation.

They didn't have contraception.
So fucking any women who wasn't your wife had consequences.

But you could fuck as many boys as you liked.

If its a beta male, weak faggot who cares if you tear his asshole and he dies, they're literally only for fucking.

Because they are heathens.

Everything I've read about Ancient Greece suggested that faggotry was frowned upon and sex was encouraged for procreation purposes.

I've read

-plato's republic, plato apology, aristotles rhetoric, Aristotle ethics, aristotle politics. Working on metaphysics and logic.

This is making a lot of sense.

>They weren't gay, they just hated women so much they would often fuck men and leave women just for procreation.

Yes. They had the right idea.

It was popular for a while, then abruptly stopped and was banned.

Again with the "all Greeks" meme.

>imagine a childs butt hole and colon

Greek propaganda. Use brain, member?

Maybe they held the same beliefs as Muslims today. Woman are for reproduction, men are for pleasure. Straight Muslim men fuck other men and just say "no homo"

where is this semen demon from?

breh...

t. muslim is culture indigenous to sweden

Pick up some Epictetus and follow it with Schopenhauer. You'll grow up in days.

This it was frowned upon but not illegal

the way it should be

I was under the impression that most grecian pederastic practices did not typically include anal penetration, and were intercrural instead, with anal penetration reserved for sex with male slaves.

>A trick by the Joos
>attack on Greek family
>mental disorder

Pick one

Warrior culture worships the male body.
Hence very gay!

Wew, she's hot

my personal issue is the idea of hurting a weaker person is repugnant and the medical explanation is what it is
than may it happen to you bro -

why are anglos so jealous of cultures that actually contributed to western civilization?
Seriously you guys are so beaten down with insecurity and guilt that you allow your (our) nations to be over run with shit then are too scared to actually call out the problem until we are on the brink of destruction.
The colonial success of the eternal anglo was achived by sujigating 3rd world countries and using Italian sailors to discover lands populated by savages with spears that you then subsequently destroyed with superior European weaponry. You almost lost a war against a single country that had only just clawed its way out of a deep depression that you tried to force on it and that was only after you recruited the whole planet to help you.
seriously explain to me why the anglo feels himself so superior.. I really struggle go understand.

*teleports behind you*

I don't argue with those two, but normal and deviant are matters of opinion, based upon counterfactuals such that condoms do not exist, and your opinion is arbitrary and therfore repugnant.

Thanks for that explanation. I've always been interested in the subject of ancient gay Greek practices. I'm a homophobe, in the real sense, not the watered down "YOU'RE A HATEFUL BIGOT!" sense. It scares the living shit out of me how many people have dabbled in homosexuality and it makes me trust absolutely no one. It sparks my interest in this subject, because I can't fathom why men "experiment" with other men and can still consider themselves heterosexual.

>It may happen to you BRO
Projection and saying bro isn't a good way to deflect that you're a scrawny NEET.

>Greeks became degenerates

>Greek civilization collapsed

Purely coincidence.

Exceptionalism is part of the anglo culture. If they stand somewhere like they belong there and start barking orders, some people are going to follow them instead of handing out the beating they deserve.

Come over and I'll show you how easy it is to "experiment."

lol ok

i fuck my wife in the ass at least once a week for years. She is fine, and would probably light you up for being a white knight fgt

Boy-boy love is purest love

>tfw this thread

>Romans became degenerates
>Roman civilization lives through several reboots to this day
Correlation established

They are the only one with the ability of arts and litterature you nordcuck

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>I don't understand why people try broccoli to see if they like it, and say they don't like broccoli afterwards
wut

big words from you mean you are trying to intellectualize and justify something that is not in nature therefore not natural - no I do not believe animal really have anal sex

i consider them like the annoying little sister of continental Europe. She needs a slap to the head and to be sent to her room while she thinks about what she did and the adults clean up her mess.

Because food is the same as sexuality.

Ok.

I know of one mammal that does it.

Confirmed faggot.

Socrates wasn't. He was lusted after by a popular politician but rejected him.

>i consider them like the annoying little sister of continental Europe. She needs a slap to the head and to be sent to her room while she thinks about what she did and the adults clean up her mess.
Oh God, so much this. If only something could be done about the swole meth-heads in the USA.

whatever man and who was projecting imagined strength you little oik by saying a person or child deserved to die because they were beta -

A lot of it starts with trap/shemale/tranny porn. The penis is more arousing to look at for a male than a vagina (but the female body is more arousing than a male body) because it kicks in the sperm competition sense in the male. It's why "straight" dudes like their porn to have big dicks in it, and shitloads of "straight" men watch shemale porn, even if they've never tried something irl with a penis.

Eventually some just decide to try it.

archaeologist focused on the greek classic here
it was considered normal since there is nothing more manly than a man dominating another man in their minds

basically the idea of "not only dominating over men on the battlefield but also in bed" seemed quite important

addendum
also men were teachers so the idea was partially "a man is teaching another man how to love and fuck"

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I didn't say children. Anyway this is obscure shit no one actually wants any of this, calm down.

Hellenistic and Classical Greek era was a giant fuckfest but it's fun as heck to dwelve into.

The pre Christian Romans fucked boys and promoted homosexuality too genius, just not to the level of the Greeks. Gang rapes were used frequently in Roman mob politics to humiliate.

I recognize that bulge

they weren't. this is a meme.

was pretty sausage-y in the archaic too
literally gravestones depicting the dead falling to the floor with his erect dick because he is too drunk
not to mention the supposed fucking of a statue

What the hell are you going on about Hitler?

Modern Jew historians exaggerate it to promote homosexuality.

>were

olive oil, the prime ingredient of the turkroach national sport

sorry dude maybe I got carried away - the rape of children is the one thing I would have no problem blowing a person away for

>Like modern day pizza gate
> Not knowing the elites are all graduates of mystery schools from the greek and pre greek era.

do you mean the statue fucking or the orgy tombstone ?

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thanks for the support, but... aussies are pretty much the same

>thinks that the Dialogues actually happened
That was Plato the Pederast's fantasy. Irrelevant.

boypussy is the path to enlightenment

Fight me

>inb4 degenerate

Was Alexander the great then degenerate? The criminalization of warrior homosexuality happened because some beta ugly monks were not getting any.

Ummm? Just plain no.

where to begin?

It's true breh

You can't hold polite, intellectual discourse with continental primitives like ze germans. Nice try though, crypto-hans. Maybe those cultish, cliqueish primitives will allow you squat with them while they piss in the future.

Or you can man the fuck up and be a fucking Anglo.

Lol that's pretty gay. Did any of those ancient Greek dildos survive the test of times anus?

Homophobia is something jewish, aryans were BI or gay as well as the old japaneses.

The other /polgbt/ belong a neet fat KIKE left-wing.

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Great Alex was Macedonian

>hey, try this new flavor of ice cream
>hey, try shoving your cock up my ass