This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination. Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists. Anybody else is welcome to debate us. Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such. /lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too. Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists. All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us.
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FAQ: >Do you support open borders? No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens. >Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads? The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money. >Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour? No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society. >Are you Jewish? No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck. >What will you do when governments take over you/reform? Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!
Nicholas Flores
RECOMMENDED READING LIST: ECONOMY >The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith >A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say >The Law by Fréderic Bastiat >The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard >Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell POLITICS >Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe >Second Treatise of Government by John Locke >Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick >For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard >Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell >Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor >What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Robert Moore
MEDIA: GOOD TIER >Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff >Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism >jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast >youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T GREAT TIER >Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd >youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda >youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content >youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right >1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site >youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux >tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts INFORMATIVE TIER >mises.org - Mises Institute >cato.org - Cato Institute >propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society >lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell
Josiah Watson
VIDEOS: >Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU >Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY >Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w >Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo >Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U >Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - youtube.com/watch?v=E6r9ZjIoW1Q >Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE >Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI >Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c >1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw >That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8
Hudson Green
MUSIC: >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8 >Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc >I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o >Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ >I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo >Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw >Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc >Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo >Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0 >Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w >Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM >Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg >Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc >Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI >Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM >Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU >Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo
MEMES: >Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ >Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU >Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg >Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns >Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo >Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY >That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU
Jace Brown
>What is Anarcho Capitalism?
Nathaniel Fisher
>What is Right Libertarianism?
Lucas Martinez
Daily reminder ancaps use their autistic ideology as a front for pedophilia
Alexander Flores
Hello guys, using malta flag in this thread
Hunter Thomas
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Liam Fisher
>Appeal to emotion
Can you disprove what he says?
Also non-consensual sex is a violation of the NAP.
John Hughes
>when your ideology would work so long as everyone did the right thing but every other ideology doesn't work because humans are corruptible and don't do the right thing because it's against "human nature"
rlly mks me thnk
Asher Baker
>so long as everyone did the right thing
In anarcho capitalism the only one who has to do the right thing is you. Dissociation, my friend.
Alexander Turner
>when your ideology would work so long as everyone did the right thing Where did you get this idea?
Libertarianism doesn't need people to do the "right" thing to work, what succeeds and makes profits is right by definition
Kayden Adams
>Parents should have a legal right not to feed their child therefore allowing them to starve to death >You can't argue against this or it's an appeal to emotion
Please be trolling
>captcha select all images with roads
Leo Wright
Daily reminder that the un-debunkable philosophy of anarcho-capitalism causes severe butthurt, making our opposition resort to calling us Fascists, Pedos, or rambling about roads instead of making rational counterpoints. They can't make rational counterpoints because arguing for any position other than self-ownership results in a performative contradiction.
Jayden Hall
There's no way to prove or disprove such a thing because it's not scientific, it's moral.
Cooper Peterson
>the un-debunkable philosophy of anarcho-capitalism
>Because rules and authorities that you are sure will ultimately prevail if a dispute arises reduces uncertainty and encourage trade.
>Because it will never happen in real life: if group A dominates territory X at time t, why would they choose to keep a system where other groups compete with them on fair terms rather than have laws and institutions that consolidate their power?
> It is self contradictory because it is based on property rights. How do you define and enforce them without a central authority?
Aaron Davis
Are you a fan of the Smut Peddlers?
Liam Carter
>If the government isn't watching over people all the time parents will resort to starving their children like it's the Holodomor again
Why do you have such low faith in humanity? Were you abused as a child
Samuel Peterson
>He wants the state to force scumbag degenerates to raise more degenerate children. If someone is trashy enough to neglect their child we'd be alot better off not having their degenerate offspring ruining our society
This bill amends the Controlled Substances Act to provide that the Act's regulatory controls and administrative, civil, and criminal penalties do not apply to with respect to marijuana.
It removes marijuana and tetrahydrocannabinols from schedule I. (A schedule I controlled substance is a drug, substance, or chemical that: has a high potential for abuse; has no currently accepted medical value; and is subject to regulatory controls and administrative, civil, and criminal penalties under the Controlled Substances Act.)
Additionally, it eliminates criminal penalties for an individual who imports, exports, manufactures, distributes, or possesses with intent to distribute marijuana.
The bill does, however, make it a crime to knowingly ship or transport marijuana into a state where its receipt, possession, or sale is prohibited. A violator is subject to criminal penalties—a fine, a prison term of up to one year, or both.
William Cook
Good, now I can recognise the degenerates. Never going to hire one.
Let them wipe themselves out of the gene pool
Owen Adams
so new, lurk more. Understanding the concept of property is essential to knowing what the fuck we're talking about. Property rights are not granted by the state, property is a spontanious natural social order and every society (even communists even tho they wont admit it) have some form of property . If you're flying a CSA flag you should like us. Ancap is bascially a confederacy of smaller states that govern themselves.
Ayden Myers
>it is based on property rights. How do you define and enforce them without a central authority lets go even simpler. is there still a difference between sex and rape, if there is no central authority defining it for you like a big mommy?
Colton Long
who cares, lets wipe out welfare before we let stoners sperg out, that way we dont have to subsidies their bad habits.
Jason Miller
This.
Enabling degenerates before removing welfare is going to get us into a sticky trap
Sebastian Fisher
based black jews
Camden Brown
Nope, if no one cares about what happens to the woman, there is no difference
Zachary Johnson
E D G Y D G Y
Xavier Jackson
SOOO BASED XDDD
Luke Cook
>When your ideology is so perfect people have to resort to ironic text to argue against you
Camden Price
Libertarianism is Green politics for rightwingfags. >legal Weed >LGBT Fascism >legal pedophilia
Bentley Bailey
I'll be honest, this is funny. I like cheeky NatSoc shit posters.
Jose Clark
In a perfect authoritarian fascist NatSoc state- >Fags and other degenerates are forced to be closeted thereby passing their fag genes on to the next generation In an AnCap state- >Fags and other degenerates are allowed to run free which ends with them burning themselves out and dying without having children or getting shot for violating the NAP
Gabriel Phillips
>I like cheeky NatSoc shit posters B A S E D A S E D
Evan Ross
All of those sound exactly like the current youthful mainstream leftist agenda. you've got the wrong blokes. Strasserism and National BOLSHEVISM is literal National Jewery. I guess you could call it ZIONISM.
Christopher Brooks
>saying this >Let Fags adopt
You Force children into degenerate families. We Force Fags into healthy families
Oliver Rodriguez
>You Force children into degenerate families. >implying people don't also have the freedom not to give fags any kids for adoption
the strawman is strong with this one
Charles Clark
>Mainstream leftist agenda You mean the liberals? The little brothers of you Libertards
Brody Harris
>We Force Fags into healthy families Holy shit, leftists. come on. really?
someone include me in the screenshot.
Wyatt Cruz
It is still allowed to sell children to faggots.
>We don´t have to prohibit murder >People still have the freedom not to kill.
Joseph Phillips
>We Force Fags into healthy families
Nicholas Morales
Only retarded parents sell their kids to degenerates, thereby ensuring their retard genes do not proliferate
Elijah Ross
No liberals are like the libertarian equivilant to Hitlerites, we're like the libertarian version of monarchies. and people who smoke weed and jerk off all day are the libertarian version of leftists.
Brandon Price
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Colton Mitchell
I think he ebarrassed himself with admitting to state enforce homosexuality. he's not coming back. might as well bump this shit.
Lucas Lee
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Samuel Bailey
I've always wondered about what would stop the largest of the private security/military companies from violating the non-aggression principle and eliminating their competition to develop a monopoly on violence/defense/control?
Does anyone have any ideas on why this wouldn't or couldn't happen?
Jayden Hill
LOL, i'd be better for you if you didn't try to make a gay little comeback.
Jacob Jenkins
Who violated the non-aggression principle first here?
its the warlords question. when we're talking in theory here we can't really see the results. it would be a true test of private production of defense.
Hunter Edwards
The jew who organized this is the root of the aggression. He wanted this to happen.
Adrian Roberts
> Posts Merchant >Nat(((Bolshevik)))
Nolan Fisher
Socialism is made for morons to exploit the rest
Evan Hughes
The invisible hand of the market will protect everybody amen
Sounds to me like the lot of you are just pandering to fascists to get more support on this board.
David Garcia
really, you're done. you're getting ignored until you spam nazbol memes. >inb4 its cause you're scard to debate me. it serves me no purpose to argue with Joseph "We Force Fags into healthy families" Stalinator
Cameron Jenkins
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Luis Smith
Unlikely scenario, it's like a school ground bully trying to take on an entire class of students at once.
Justin Rodriguez
Close the borders, ban all "degenerate" behavior and kill your political enemies isn't libertarianism, it's fascism.
Caleb Reed
Cuck
Lincoln Howard
Nobody's really banning anything. It's just that some lifestyles are more sustainable than others. If you smoke weed 24/7 people probably won't hire you or trust you to do many things because you'll always be high and favor instant gratification
Leo Roberts
You must be new to the concept of ABSOLUTE property rights. The strongest and smartest will attain the majority of the property and govern it as they see fit. We believe the darwinianism of the whole structure lends itself to more traditional and conservative values. degenerates are called degenerates for a reason. they're inept. they wont own shit, they'll have to live on someone elses property by their rules.
David Gomez
As I said Every degenerate behavior is okay if nobody voluntary prevents you from doing it. Thats how Rome ended
Brayden Myers
>youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU [YouTube] Not Found (embed)
What does jewtub means with this?
Colton Harris
just kick them off your property. people who spend thousands of dollars to buy a fursuit or have their dicks surgically removed aren't responsible market actors. If you act like a nigger your life will reflect that.
Hunter Phillips
Cantwells youtube got Shoah'd he's removing tons of his shit.
Jackson Phillips
You can voluntarily prevent people from doing it though. You can have a "no smoking allowed on my property" rule.
If you found a community, you can have that rule listed on the outside in order to take up residence in that community
Gavin Turner
who builds the roads?
Bentley Stewart
The people who use the roads finance the creators and the people who make the profits make the roads.
Ironically the "muh no roads" argument is least likely to happen in an AnCap system since the lack of roads will create such a huge demand that the free market will create a road maker almost immediately
Jayden Anderson
>what is moral is what is profitable oh wow.
Jose Diaz
>what is moral is what is profitable sustainable*
Leo Long
>Libertariansm will lead to a richer society that benefits everyone >Libertarianism will act as a eugenics program by starving out the poor How the hell you make this work?
Brody Barnes
who determines where to build roads? The owners of the land?
Who protects the cummunity? the community? How do they organize?
Blake Ross
Libertarianism does not nor claim to benefit everyone, Libertarianism and Libertarians have always maintained that Libertarianism will benefit those that deserve to be benefited.
You are thinking of Social Democracy
Cameron Collins
>who determines where to build roads The road will be built wherever the builder sees fit >The owners of the land? You obviously have to own the land to build anything on it >Who protects the cummunity? the community? Yes >How do they organize? Through alliances, contracts and mutual agreements
Xavier Lee
Is this like renaissance italy tier? like counts with land who beheave like private individuals looking for individual benefits?
Noah Bennett
Because value is subjective. A person might value more doing heroin when he's 16 instead of learning a trade. Therefore, when he shoots heroin up his arm, he is considering he is better off this way.
Will he regret this decision in the future? Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Freedom works both ways.
I might think that eating rice + chicken and drinking water exclusively could be an economically optimal choice, but my subjective compass of value tells me that this is something that wouldn't make me happy, I would not perceive a benefit in this.
By not selecting the most economically optimal option I'm engaging in some sort of eugenics on myself, I won't be able to reproduce as much as I would if all my choices were optimal, but I don't care, I value happiness more than I value being the best version of myself.
Asher Torres
The increased productivity benefits everyone in the long run by raising living standards. Also the state has a tendency to subsidize failure on a massive scale. That goes away with libertarianism.
Ayden Adams
Yes, although I'm not really knowledgable about renaissance era Italy.
Justin Carter
Read something about it. It looks like republic era Florence, Rome, condotieri etc. Play Assassins creed 2, brotherhood and revelations.
Zachary Moore
AnCap can't ensure equality of opportunity. Libertarianism can.
Come back lads
Kevin Martinez
Are all libertarians social outcasts...or just most?
Justin Peterson
>equality of opportunity What a fucking meme
Joseph Clark
Are all republicans jew loving zionists...or just most?
Alexander Cruz
>AnCap can't ensure equality of opportunity. >Libertarianism can.
this. I want my guns and my property.
asking this on four hana.
Brody Green
plenty of friends, girlfriend, usually the kind of guy who organizes something and everyone joins...social interaction is so fucking easy.
On top of that, being libertarian and learning about it places you at a mindset of self-improvement, self-criticism and acknowledgement of market incentives, which is by itself a social advantage.
Ever since I became interested in libertarianism I've done nothing but improve.
Thanks for your concern tho.
Tyler Wright
Keep telling yourself that ;) Your "friends" make fun of your political "lectures" and your weird views behind your back. Also, your gf is cheating on you, sorry to be the one to break it to ya
David Hughes
Just most
Joshua Flores
You sure got me there bro. Come over to Malta one day and I'll buy you a beer.
Joseph Hughes
The world is full of retards though. This only works if people are all good and intelligent, which they are not and must be forced to do good.
Isaac Sullivan
>AnCap system is so perfect that critics have to resort to strawmen and ad hominii
Michael Miller
>The world is full of retards though. And? Who put the responsibility of the world on me? If they are retarded then let them be, their own genes will be wiped out from humanity, that is fine by me.
