Feminism is masculinism

What really astonish me is how feminism, while pretending to fight for women is actually defending masculine values, praising them as superior and trying to force women into adopting them.

See, all the value of a women reside in her pure appearanc. Man always seek to prove he's something, he have to prove that he's strong, powerfull, rich, smart. He have to develop a proof of his value to have a position in the world, to be respected. In order to be " someone " he have to show something, wether it is his wealth or his intellect. Women don't need this, because they're already "someone" without having to do anything. In order to impress, to charm people, a women litteraly just have to be beautiful. Her value reside entirely in her natural condition. Feminity is the being by excellence, possessing its own value in its own being, manhood is a void, and the necessecity to fill that void by accomplishments in order to be someone. Hence why all the accomplishments through history came from man, from litterature to architecture, always the same need, always the necessecity for men to prove their worth. And the only reason they want to prove their value, is to impress womens, to charm them. In the natural state, women have the power. They always had through history. Because their value is intrinsic to their being, to the contrary of men who need to find it, to work to have a value, to finally fill that void that will allow them to charm women.

Now, modern feminism, who is shilled by fat ugly womens who don't possess a high intresic value and thus try to become like man, is trying to guilt women about their own condition. They try to insinuate that women shouldn't only " be beautiful " but develop " inner qualities ", have a career, produce intellectual works, like mens. What they don't understand is that the nature of manhood and the necessecity of producing such a worth was not the proof of man superiority, but rather the proof of their dependancy towards women.

Except they don't try to be like men. They try to be more then men. They even down right discriminate and hate men. Modern wave feminism is a fucking cancer.

Very good point, but while feminism aims to have women fill a more dominant role, it also aims for men to become more submissive. I think these women just have an inferiority complex and the only way to cope with it is to virtue signal and get up on a soapbox and say whatever gets the strongest support of the peers around them. That is why when a female is in a group, she is much more likely to be feminist, but when you start dating one, she will inherently become more like you and will love you for it.

We don't talk about social conditions, about legal rights.

We talk about the more important, their metaphysical unconscious understanding of masculinity and feminity, and how they praise masculine values and try to transform feminity in masculinity.

Good point. The problem being ignored, although, is that feminists actively discriminate and try to make men weaker so they can end up on top. Feminism is in its core a socialist movement which needs to be eliminated if we want capitalism and the meritocracy to survive

They try to destroy the natural state of masculinity and feminity and exchange it. Which is retarded for the beautiful girls who follow those kind of idelogies, they litteraly exchange caviar for eggs of lump, as they will soon understand it when they will die by thousands on the battlefields. Masculinity isn't so fun when you have to run towards a machine gun, isn't it ?

Understable for the ugly women through, they try to repair nature's injustice and their lack of intrasic value by deform masculinity and feminity.

If you look at the main demography of feminists, it's mostly sad, ugly women who had bad experiences with men. Feminists, unsuccessful women (in the classical aspects of a woman's worth), look at men for their ideal self, because the only way these women can and ever have recieved respect is through men's actions. These women, fuelled by the media which makes every women in their shows deserving of praise, regardless if she deserves it or not, don't get the respect they think they should and are now mad.
Well it's pretty rambly.

It isn't natural that ugly women get tossed away nowadays. It's mostly got to do with pornography being as developed as it is nowadays. An ugly man won't put up with an ugly whore, because she's ugly and thinks she deserves much more than she actually does. This guy, much like a big chunk of the worlds population, sees porn and finds an outlet for his sexual tensions that is much easier and affordable than any woman in the world. The feminist movement has a lot to do with how gender roles are changing, for the worst and for the good, depending on how you look at it.

>They try to insinuate that women shouldn't only " be beautiful " but develop " inner qualities ", have a career, produce intellectual works
You say it like it's a bad thing.

They have all the right to do such a thing, though, given their natural injustice that gives them a low value, their only solution reside in waging a war, not only against mans who didn't find in them attractive, but against feminity in itself, the condition in which they are born and want to escape, and thus against all women.

They attack both man and feminity. And those kind of people always existed. In the middle-ages, your average feminist will be the ugly women that accuse the young beautiful women who charmed the man she loved, of being a witch. Now, she don't burn the more successfull women and broke the heart of his husband, she try to drag along them in their war against man, while in reality trying to make them adopt masculine values. But there is the same reason behind it : the necessecity to prevent better people to be happy, because they shouldn't have the right to have that happiness that nature refused her.

It's a bad thing because it's not needed and pervert the relationship between feminity and masculinity. It's also not an improvement for women, but a degradation putting them in the same " struggle for value " that characterize manhood while feminity doesn't need such a struggle in order to be entirely itself. The natural relationship between man and women is entirely expressed in the painting of my first post.

You're not only excusing female mediocrity, but you're actually holding it up as a positive value, and I don't understand why.

>because they shouldn't have the right to have that happiness that nature refused her.
Beautifully phrased.
She has the right to do that, but as I said, feminism doesn't rely on the notion of self improvement over others, they want to be equal/better than others by dragging them down, which is in itself just wrong. Socialist countries did that all the time, the biggest result of such policies is always the flight of talented people. Feminists wants everyone to be shit, since that's the only way of them becoming equal to others.

Women are biologically inferior to men, their mediocrity is intrinsic to them. The only way for women to be actually better or on an equal footing with men is to sabotage men. Plus, women don't need to be anything at all for them to have any worth, so they don't need to be anything but mediocre, intellectualy speaking, because of their monopoly on the reproductive system.

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Because what you call mediocrity is in reality the source of all accomplishments.

Behind every conquest of man, wether it is poesy, architecture, battle, there is the heart of a women. Man, fight, create, think in order to impress women. Feminity is the battery that made the world turn. Womens don't have to produce anything, because they already have their value in their natural state. Man have to produce something, in order to fill the void and make himself " a name ", while women are born with a ready-made name. It's not mediocre, we don't measure the worth of something only on effort. Beauty doesn't have to sweat to prove something. It's that natural state of feminity and masculinity that allows great civilization to prosper.

I wouldn't expect such a plebeian view coming from someone coming from the country of Don Quichotte honnestly. You have a marxist egalitarian view of the world, you think feminity should be judged according to masculinity without understanding that they are fundamentaly different but bother vital to the life of a people.

not really, beauty fades and there are a lot of beautiful people around. nowadays, at top tier universities, there are many good looking smart liberal girls who get high paying jobs after they graduate.

do you guys ever feel sorry for how we sit around on this site wasting time circle jerking (on a weekend, no less) while there are people out in the world doing things like dating, traveling, going out with friends or loved ones, working toward their goals, building real world experience, learning, accumulating useful knowledge, etc.

>I wouldn't expect such a plebeian view coming from someone coming from the country of Don Quichotte honnestly. You have a marxist egalitarian view of the world, you think feminity should be judged according to masculinity without understanding that they are fundamentaly different but bother vital to the life of a people.
I think women should strive to be more than being worthless and boring hags whose only value is a hole between their legs, but I see you're too fucking illuminated to not be a beta loser who will take a pretty woman's bullshit because it's his duty as a man and hers a woman. And just because I don't want a boring, uninteresting, uninmpressive woman to be the mother of my children doesn't mean I have a marxist egalitarian view of the world. I recognize that men and women are different, and serve different societal and biological roles, but that's no excuse for the woman to be immensely mediocre.

I'm going to bed, so I won't be able to discuss this matter further. At least tell me if you've actually read Don Quijote.

Yeah, I really need a fucking hobby.

>beauty fades

Of course it fades, like all things, like life, like man worth in that temporal world, but it has a role in nature. That role is to give life, litteraly or symbolicaly. Litteraly because its through the necessecity to impress women, as I said, that man surpass himself and accomplish something. Or litteraly by giving life, by having a child, by becoming a mother.

That doesn't invalidate what I said. The core of feminity reside entirely in its natural condition, in its ability to give life.

And the good looking smart liberal girls which you talk about are a good example of the victims of feminism I talk about, they think they have to prove something to the world, because they have a feminist worldview that holds masculine values as superior, while in reality their value residate entirely in themselves.

>whose only value is a hole between their legs
>boring, uninteresting women

You are caricaturally wrong if you think what I praise here is only the physical aspect of feminity. The value of a women reside in its ability to charm, to care, to, as I said give life. That value residate integrality in herself, in her being, and not in exterior achievments. It's what made her interesting and impressive, and not managing a start-up or having a good job, which only makes her a degradated man. But, hey I guess, as Baudelaire said, " To love intelligent women is the pleasure of a pederast. ", so to each one its pleasures.

And yeah, I've read it, this wasn't a random reference, but the fight against the windmill is a pretty good metaphor for the perpetual fight that man have to suffer, and that charactarized manhood.

it takes a lot for a man to impress an accomplished woman and most men who are smart, successful, and secure want a woman who is educated and has her own life and career. the best relationships are where both people respect each other and people have different values re what they find respectable.

don't blame ambitious women for your inability to develop goals you're passionate about accomplishing. there are plenty of women who are looking to marry a man and be nothing more than a homemaker. focus on your own life instead of what other people want to do with their lives. all the rest about what femininity is or isn't is nonsense. a woman can't give life alone. both sexes contribute chromosomes. both males and females want to be charmed and cared for. it's not one gender's responsibility to shoulder any burdens.